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Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:58 pm
by inHimshallibe
The Word of HitoSK is catching more scum than town. Good on you, sk.

Hold your horses and don't lynch until we give the word. Deliberating on a mountaintop and all that.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:01 pm
by singersigner
If the SK is BP, the SK wins with everything but an SK lynch today, which forces a mafia win=town loss.
If the SK is NOT bulletproof, then we have a potential PD tomorrow barring no cross-kill.

inhim: how did the Seraphs confirm you as town?
I need to know whether to vote for you or myself today.


Think about it. Which is better going into night?
1. A no-lynch
a. town loss, mafia/SK draw (each kills a different town at night)
b. town win, mafia/SK loss (crosskill)
c. one anti-town faction win, town loss, other faction loss (one town dies, one anti-town dies)
d. three-player PD tomorrow (mafia/SK choose the same townie) which could result in another no-lynch

2. A confirmed town lynch
a. town loss, mafia/SK draw (each kills a different town at night)
b. town win, mafia/SK loss (crosskill)
c. one anti-town faction win, town loss, other faction loss (one town dies, one anti-town dies)

3. A non-confirmed townie lynch
a. town loss, mafia/SK draw (each kills a different town at night)
b. town win, mafia/SK loss (crosskill)
c. one anti-town faction win, town loss, other faction loss (one town dies, one anti-town dies)

The only difference between options 2/3 are whether or not anti-town goes into the night being able to use PoE.

I'm not voting for a no lynch today. I give town better odds of

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:05 pm
by singersigner
MEGA ULTRON NINJA EDIT :eek:
inHimshallibe wrote:THE SERAPHS HAVE PUSHED AND PUSHED NACHO/JACK/MOTHRAX AS THE WINNING COMBINATION OF DEATH.
Uh, what?

AND FUCK YOU I KNEW IT WAS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE THAT RAYFROST WAS STILL ALIVE.

AND DOUBLE FUCK YOU FOR NOT LISTENING TO ME AND VV AND LYNCHING JACK (fuckmylifewhydidn'tIpushforit).

AND TRIPLE FUCK JACK FOR GETTING AWAY WITH SLIPPING FOR SO FUCKING LONG.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:06 pm
by inHimshallibe
I have been a loyal vessel for the seraphs. No mod-confirmation, just my actions to speak for themselves.

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:12 pm
by singersigner
inHimshallibe wrote:I have been a loyal vessel for the seraphs. No mod-confirmation, just my actions to speak for themselves.
They mentioned earlier that they confirmed Andrius being town "through their tricksy Seraph ways." How? Neighborizing doesn't confirm alignment. And your actions simply say "I can't get caught not doing what the Seraphs ask of me."

Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:36 pm
by RayFrost
singersigner wrote:MEGA ULTRON NINJA EDIT :eek:
inHimshallibe wrote:THE SERAPHS HAVE PUSHED AND PUSHED NACHO/JACK/MOTHRAX AS THE WINNING COMBINATION OF DEATH.
Uh, what?

AND FUCK YOU I KNEW IT WAS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE THAT RAYFROST WAS STILL ALIVE.

AND DOUBLE FUCK YOU FOR NOT LISTENING TO ME AND VV AND LYNCHING JACK (fuckmylifewhydidn'tIpushforit).

AND TRIPLE FUCK JACK FOR GETTING AWAY WITH SLIPPING FOR SO FUCKING LONG.
I AM A LOYAL SERVITOR OF JUSTICE. I HAVE MERELY BEEN WRONG THIS WHOLE TIME.

YOU WERE RIGHT, I WAS WRONG.

Nacho is probably sk. Evidence: he's pushing a NL when NL
only
helps the SK. Mafia run the risk of dying from SK kill, and SK in a game this large almost 100% for sure has some form of kill immunity, so the night holds fear for all but one faction.
Seraphs: Bring down thy judgment upon this madman that has sought the slaughter of us all?

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:06 am
by singersigner
Why do you think SK is NK immune?

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:53 am
by RayFrost
singersigner wrote:Why do you think SK is NK immune?
As I've said: in a game this large with the town and scum seraphs also powering things up, there must be some sort of advantage or safety given to the SK. The most common and simplest form of this is to make the SK immune to kills (meaning judgment is the only non-lynch death possible for the SK, from my understanding)

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:37 am
by Nachomamma8
RayFrost wrote:
Seraphs: Bring down thy judgment upon this madman that has sought the slaughter of us all?
Uh, Ray... Why are you calling for the Seraphs to use Judgement on someone you think is an SK, which means that mafia will use their Judgement on a townie and mafia will win? The only way we have any change of winning if we don't follow SS's or my plans is if Town Seraphs kill mafia by judgement and then we lynch SK. Meaning that we should be looking for MAFIA right now.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:40 pm
by RayFrost
Nachomamma8 wrote:
RayFrost wrote:
Seraphs: Bring down thy judgment upon this madman that has sought the slaughter of us all?
Uh, Ray... Why are you calling for the Seraphs to use Judgement on someone you think is an SK, which means that mafia will use their Judgement on a townie and mafia will win? The only way we have any change of winning if we don't follow SS's or my plans is if Town Seraphs kill mafia by judgement and then we lynch SK. Meaning that we should be looking for MAFIA right now.
Ugh, I keep forgetting things. Sorry about that. This kind of high pressure situation really screws with my head.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:44 pm
by singersigner
Can we get a confirmation from the Seraphs as to what they'd like us to do. I'm ready to self-vote unless they have a better idea.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:45 pm
by RayFrost
Self voting is terribad. There's no possibility of victory from you doing so.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:47 pm
by singersigner
So, YOU'RE not the other townie, that's for sure.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:49 pm
by RayFrost
Ummm. What? How is you self voting doing
anything
to allow town to win?

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:57 pm
by singersigner
Did you not pay any attention to the options I spelled out for you?

If we no-lynch the chances for town to win goes DOWN.
If we lynch either SK or mafia, we're handing the win to the other person.
The only way town increases their chances of winning is if there's a cross kill tonight, with one less person out of the picture.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:01 pm
by RayFrost
RayFrost wrote: As I've said: in a game this large with the town and scum seraphs also powering things up, there must be some sort of advantage or safety given to the SK. The most common and simplest form of this is to make the SK immune to kills (meaning judgment is the only non-lynch death possible for the SK, from my understanding)
And this shows how cross killing idea
favors the SK
in all likelihood. Why would Vi send in a role that's going solo without giving it some form of protection to even the odds?

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:02 pm
by RayFrost
Following he logic that SK is kill immune, lynching you means the SK wins.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:10 pm
by Vi
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Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:16 pm
by hitogoroshi
Cue mood music.

Greetings. I have spoken to you through Andrius, I have spoken to you through inhim – now I speak to you directly.

I would like to first and foremost apologize for a bit of arrogance on my part. One of our long-term strategies was to leave clues suggesting we had used the Holy Order "Omniscience", which tells us what orders the scum have available. We have not used this order. I mistakenly thought that we could sufficiently speculate and have enough of an idea of the setup that we wouldn't need the Omniscience.

Consequently, the vig shot took us completely by surprise, because we assumed the restriction of must-grant-vig-to-town was still in play. We had no idea how to react to the flow of events. Furcolow knowing (some bastard derivative of) the Memetic Vig rolename suggests that he had been contacted by scum. So, by the one-order-per limit, his death couldn't have been a bolt. Yet, no vig was claiming the shot, and I assumed it was some wrongheaded, confused townie who had been granted vig by the scum, shot a townie with it, and was remaining silent for some reason.

Thank goodness for our friendly sk, helping me see the light!

And now, I'm willing to make one more wager about the setup. Two daykills advance the game forward a 'day', which means the scum could turn LYLO into an instant win. I'm thinking – hoping is more appropriate, actually – that the scum do not have this ability. I'm hoping the scum have no bolt.

(For those of you worrying that I'm gambling away our chances, take heart – this is the only table in the house that isn't rigged against us.)

Here is some key information you guys need to know:

Firstly, the 'endgame threshold' is 5 – below five players, many orders shut down. Which means that the big-sparkly-gamechanging orders were forbidden to us, but are now available. This is, more than anything else, the reason we had to descend. The only chance of town victory we had up there was sussing out who the sk and scum were and a coinflip with Appoint Doublevoter.

Secondly, the death penalty for the Righteous Seraph is more leinient than MoHo. If we die, you do not "auto-lose"; you simply lose the next time a Righteous is lynched. Since that's true anyway for the rest of the game, this is not going to get the town killed early.

Thirdly, being on the ground like this significantly boosts our faith generation. Won't say any numbers because scum taking the field might having them accumlating less than we do, and if there's one thing I love it's making the forces of evil have trouble with math.

So, here are the big things to know:

As long as I am alive, no one votes until I say go.
Self explanatory.

If I die and a town victory becomes impossible, the town will do everything in their power to ensure the Serial Killer wins.
You hear that, scumbags? Bolting me gives the SK the win, not you. And hey - SK's killed more scumbags than the town has. Shit, we're practically
buddies
over here.

Keep the goddamn battery up.
I've said this repeatedly through inhim and watched as it didn't happen – activity vanished when there was no voting. Hopefully with me here it'll be easier. My faith generation is awesome while I'm on the ground, and every day of buffed accumulation is a good one.

This is getting a little long, so I'll save my personal reads for another post. Only I will be posting in thread, but I can share "Word of Zach/Sotty" if asked or if they have something to say; I'm still in our god QT as normal.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:23 pm
by singersigner
Chest pains.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:25 pm
by hitogoroshi
Sorry. There's no non-dramatic way to descend from the heavens.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:27 pm
by RayFrost
HOLY SH***.

THIS IS AWESOME.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:28 pm
by RayFrost
I'm seriously hyperventilating over here. I need to calm down.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:29 pm
by RayFrost
Okay, with this down, the game's hopefully in the bag.

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:29 pm
by RayFrost
Hito, I'd like that reads post ASAP as well as a breakdown of your plan for the day.