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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:15 am
by Nero Cain
You really think that Demon is scum and he doesn't have a buddy on his wagon?
So do you think its just a two-man team with a dreamwalk SK?
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:38 am
by Selkies
In post 1500, Nero Cain wrote:You really think that Demon is scum and he doesn't have a buddy on his wagon?
No, I doubt that. But I don't see how you figure me for his buddy. I'm the one who wanted votes on him so he'd fucking claim. I redirected him on himself because over night 2 orcinus and I decided he was our top pick for scum. I can see thinking that we are scum and are trying to force a mislynch on demon. I cannot see how you'd conclude we could be scumbuddies.
So do you think its just a two-man team with a dreamwalk SK?
No, I don't.
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:39 am
by Cephrir
Empking replaces Demon. Deadline will be pushed back to July 10th, 11:59 PM.
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:55 am
by Belisarius
Luc/Isam?
I'm thinking a Lanfear or Moghedien is more likely, though.
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:10 am
by Nero Cain
In post 1501, Selkies wrote:No, I doubt that. But I don't see how you figure me for his buddy. I'm the one who wanted votes on him so he'd fucking claim. I redirected him on himself because over night 2 orcinus and I decided he was our top pick for scum. I can see thinking that we are scum and are trying to force a mislynch on demon. I cannot see how you'd conclude we could be scumbuddies.
So...who is the scumbuddy? Iece? GCBC?
have no clue what your post means, Beli.
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:56 am
by Selkies
We are leaning GCBC but it's not a strong lean right now. The stuff about not finding us on N2 could have been a set-up to get us mislynched. If it's a set up, it could have worked if not for the inventor/A'Dam/redirect stuff.
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:52 pm
by Empking
Vote: Mara
I agree with Nero, and I also think it'd make sense if there was a permanent scum presence in the dream QT (which would obviously be Mara)
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:15 pm
by Ms Marangal
In post 1468, sword_of_omens wrote:
In post 1462, Ms Marangal wrote:also, swords yes. I can still read the QT, I still have access to it though I don't think I'm allowed to say anything specific about it
You can talk about it, you just can't quote from it....
What type of questions did demon ask you guys…and what did he tell you about himself?
So 2 full-fledged doctors, huh?
Demon asked if we were town and asked why we were there that night and He didn't give us any information about himself.
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 10:19 pm
by Ms Marangal
And Nero, I wasn't lying about thinking that you were answering a question posed for me, I actually did believe that you answered the question Swords asked me because I didn't see the one he posed towards you
then I read back, and saw the question and it rings alarms.
You don't die when you protect someone, but you're a body-guard?
and then, you weren't surprised that there were several "commuters" in this game, along with a different type of commuter AND THEN you weren't surprised about a second doctor being in this game?
none of this adds up Nero
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:35 am
by Cephrir
Empking 3
(Iecerint, Selkies, GoodCop_BadCop)
Ms Marangal 2
(Nero Cain, Empking)
Nero Cain 1
(Ms Marangal)
Not Voting 2
(sword_of_omens, Belisarius)
With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline for Day 3 will be Monday, July 10th, 11:59 PM.
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:40 am
by Nero Cain
You aren't blond so no, I don't think you are that ditzy. What did you think was all that writing with question marks? Die liar scum.
I don't know the setup. BTW, Emp was the one that ran the mini game with two cops. So there's no reason to go "OHH U SKUM 'CAUSE WE CAN'T HAS 2 "DOCS"".
I don't die WHEN I protect someone, I die when the end of the next day.
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:31 am
by sword_of_omens
Mara,
why would you ask this question specifically?
In post 851, Ms Marangal wrote:yesterday, you that there are forsaken who could enter the dream-world? are any of them female with the capability to kill?
Considering Ghost is dead, and Demon's character is male...
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:21 am
by GoodCop_BadCop
I'm not sure why we aren't lynching Demon/Empking.
There is a shroud of conflicting reveals/actions/targets that we really should be lynching from Selkies/Empking/GCBC. Although a lot of what has been going on has been speculated to be because of "flavor", I think that if all parties were claiming truth, it would be a whole lot easier to sort out then it has been. After reading, and re-reading it
still
doesn't make sense.
I don't like how Selkies uses mod convo as a crutch to try and side-step inconsistencies as well as how his target claim
after
Demon said he RB'ed me would still discredit my results:
In post 1378, Selkies wrote:One more thing.
I knew I needed to check another PM.
When I received the a'Dan I was told that it works on One Powers only.
Would the roleblock be a One Power?
In post 1391, Selkies wrote:
There is nothing in my PM Q&A about the a'Dan that mentions a gender restriction.
Going back through the PM convos
I did find that the redirect would fail if a player is not allowed to target themselves as well as it only working on One Powers.
"OP" = One Power?
What is missing from demon's flavor claim?
In post 1452, Selkies wrote:I went back to check the PM from the mod about our night one action.
We were told that we tried to dream about ThAd but couldn't. We assumed the fail was due to his commuting, but hell if I understand the flavor reasons why dreaming about him would or woudln't fail.
I also don't see town-motivation from Demon's late timing and his reveal.
We claim our role.
Demon makes a post refusing to claim first.
If he were town, and willing to mass claim, why wait and let the Selkies vs GCBC arguement keep going when he "knew" that he role-blocked me and that it would confirm/validify my role and my results?
If he were scum, him waiting to claim would allow me to continue to tunnel Selkies and let me continue to think he was lying. It would also allow Selkies to maintain a pessimistic view and read
like what happened here.
In post 1469, Nero Cain wrote: I wanted to try and fool scum some kinda way and then when SOO asked me I figured well, I figured if I did block a kill and then didn't die it might be too suspicious for town. Thought I DO eventully die, at the end of the next dayphase but I don't die immediately.
How exactly does you leaving out the modified part of your role fool scum? What were you hoping to accomplish?
~GC
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:24 am
by GoodCop_BadCop
Emp, how much of the game have you actually read?
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:37 am
by Selkies
GCBC who else do you think are scum?
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 7:12 am
by sword_of_omens
screw it...
Vote: MsM
For someone who doesn’t have flavor knowledge, she seems to know too much…
Her Claim looks coached by someone with flavor knowledge…particularily where she states matter of factly that Nynaeve is a doctor, like it should be common knowledge…
whereas right before she claimed just her name and not her role…
I also don’t like the fact that she asked about Forsaken females who can kill in the dreamworld..why would she ask specifically about females? There would be no reason for this…especially if she came from dreamwalking with Ghostlin and Demon? Demon is supposedly male, and Ghost was NK’d…and even if there was no gender revealed in the dreamworld, again, why would she ask specifically about "female" killers?
Ffery also had a very good point in her
1447 about MsM in regards to MsM’s #1065 and #1272….
i'm pretty certain she’s MsM is scum...there's just too much wrong to be coincidental..
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:45 am
by GoodCop_BadCop
Toss up between Mara/Nero.
~GC
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:58 am
by Selkies
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:04 am
by GoodCop_BadCop
No, you asked who else I think it scum. I think its highly likely you and Demon are scum together with your claims working together while the third being between Nero/Mara. BC/Cabd is out of town, so I can't collaborate nor speak with him, but that is the impression I am getting post re-read.
~GC
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:08 am
by Selkies
In post 1518, GoodCop_BadCop wrote:No, you asked who else I think it scum. I think its highly likely you and Demon are scum together with your claims working together while the third being between Nero/Mara. BC/Cabd is out of town, so I can't collaborate nor speak with him, but that is the impression I am getting post re-read.
~GC
And we are thinking you could be scum for the same reasons - the dovetailing of your original claim/case with demon's eventual role/night action claim. Our mislynch today would have been convenient.
I'm hoping things will become more clear once demon's card flips.
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:48 am
by Empking
Not all of it, yet. I've read the last few pages first but I haven't finished the first lot.
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:38 pm
by Empking
In post 1520, Empking wrote:
Not all of it, yet. I've read the last few pages first but I haven't finished the first lot.
Finished. Now I'm more certain that ever how much of a travesty voting Demon for poor playstyle is rather than voting Mara, which a quick skim of Amrun's posts would tell you is the right lynch.
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:24 pm
by Ms Marangal
In post 889, Ms Marangal wrote:I asked if there were any forsaken female because I thought the other sister, who looked like she was trying to gain our trust, could have been scum. the third sister shared her opinions with us in the thread, and it looking back at what Ghost stated end of D1, it's super similar to what he stated.
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:28 pm
by Ms Marangal
Everyone in the dream world was female as our anonymous names all had the word sister in it.
Red sister, Yellow sister, and Blue (me) sister
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:30 pm
by Empking
I don't know the flavour, but aren't all the Aes Saedari women so 'Green Brother', for example, would be very odd.