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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:26 am
by Green Crayons
@FF:
so you're voting me because of my replacee's actions and because of complete conjecture about how Titus is actually scum.

Well, I've addressed your inquiry about Desp's actions, and you've ignored my commentary. So, thanks for making me do work that you decided to just ignore. Glad to know that your question to me was in fact pointless.

As for your conjecture, you appear to admit that Titus will be dead shortly via NK, and that her flipping green will disprove your theory that her being scum makes it more likely that I am scum. So you just want to skip that wait and go straight for me, which whether or not I flip green (I will) doesn't actually tell you anything about Titus - or anyone else for that matter.


Also your theory is bad. It's literally pure conjecture.

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:27 am
by ika
in actuality i think it would reveal a lot

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:31 am
by Green Crayons
Such as?

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:45 am
by Formerfish
He's my brother, its deeper than what we've played together. But to answer your question with a number we've played together in 4-5 games alone, and then we've hydra-ed another 6 or 7.

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:47 am
by Formerfish
I didn't ignore it, it produced what I had hoped it would. His push towards me was baseless and it was something he wouldn't have done as town. The fact that you couldn't make a case with the framework already set up for you means that he was blowing air.

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:49 am
by Formerfish
And of course it is conjecture at this point. I'm fucking vanilla, so I have no way of getting anything more concrete. This is what makes sense to me right now and what I am rolling with.

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:00 am
by ika
well that makes a world of diffrence if you 2 are brothers

whos the older? if you dont mind

im gonna sleep on it first though i need to think this over somethign doesnt feel right

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:08 am
by Formerfish
I am, by 6 years. Desp is who got me into playing mafia, we played on a Gamefaqs sub board for a while, then he came over here, and I followed. I guess if you take into account the Gamefaqs games the number of games played goes up drastically.

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 8:41 am
by Green Crayons
lol

You could have told me that you were related to Desp. Here's my new answer to your question about why Desp was thinking you were scum: because he's your brother, and obviously thought that you were acting weird. Now I understand why Desp didn't feel the need to actually explain why he was scumreading you.

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:58 am
by geraintm
Sorry for being absent.

What happened to the mass claim idea, it just get ignored?

Post 1473 confused me to hell. Green canyons building a case why desp looked scummy...

ika wrote:im willing to let titus live for toDay only b/c shes going to be forced to watch the mason.

the question remains, do you think we have full ninja or Xshot/limited?



I don't follow this, why do you think they are going to be forced to watch me? i can see a possible reason but I'd like you to explain.

I am not sure why, but formerfish's blunder with Titus makes me push them towards the pro town side
I am certainly not voting for them today.

I will stick my vote where it is, I haven't been convinced bbt isn't scum by anyone

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:29 pm
by Titus
Ok quick summary please y'all please. Will be watching the mason. Who is that?

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 10:23 pm
by shos
Geraintm is the mason.

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:27 pm
by BlueBloodedToffee
Phone posting.

I have been reliably informed that my internet is now working.

I will be getting around to this game when I get home in about 3-4 hours.

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 11:29 pm
by Green Crayons
Never said that Desp looks scummy, just explained that I disagreed with Desp's PC suspicions and I couldn't really figure out where they came from.

Now knowing that Desp and FF (who was part of the PC hydra) are brothers IRL, Desp's keeping the basis of his PC suspicions close to his chest make an incredible amount of sense.

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:47 am
by Titus
Ok watching Geratrim.

G, watcher keeps the conftown alive we hope. Scum do have a ninja because I watched Egg and nothing.

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:12 am
by Doctor Who
I will continue my catchup (hopefully read all of Day 2) later (real day), but in the meantime

Titus - how can you be certain that the scum have a ninja? Assuming that you are a watcher, could there be other roles like jailer or roleblocker that would do the same thing?

I'm wondering why you are so sure that it is only one type.

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:27 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
ika wrote:
BBT i have noticed posts elsewhere but not here....

Why are you flat out lying?

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:33 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
ika wrote:im willing to let titus live for toDay only b/c shes going to be forced to watch the mason.

This is bad. Nobody should be advising where the watcher should watch, let her decide on her own.

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:37 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Green Crayons wrote:
I don't like his posting this game. I stand by what I said in . He's trying too hard to look rational and spell out his positions, while using some pretty shaky logic to push his votes (e.g., looking at the wagon on a D1 town lynch without any flips, his basis for voting Ika in and ).

I'm trying too hard to look rational...what sort of BS is that? Would I also be scummy if I were to keep my reads close to my chest and not explain things?

Green Crayons wrote:Also, I don't like his buddying with my slot when it was occupied by Desp. He found Desp to be incredibly town, and the votes on Desp to be incredibly scum, without justification.

Oh wait... apparently yeah, I would.

So, I'm scummy for trying to be too open and rational and then I'm scummy for not explaining reads/reasoning.

That's contradictory and is awful reasoning for jumping on my wagon.

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:41 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
Mod - VC please.


Am I really at L-1?

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 3:50 am
by Formerfish
If you are people should Unvote you and vote Green.

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:41 am
by Titus
Or vote Desp or shos. But hey....

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:43 am
by Titus
Oh wait GC is Desp...

VOTE: GC

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:43 am
by Titus
BlueBloodedToffee wrote:
ika wrote:im willing to let titus live for toDay only b/c shes going to be forced to watch the mason.

This is bad. Nobody should be advising where the watcher should watch, let her decide on her own.


Doesn't matter. Scum have ninja.

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:44 am
by Titus
Doctor Who wrote:I will continue my catchup (hopefully read all of Day 2) later (real day), but in the meantime

Titus - how can you be certain that the scum have a ninja? Assuming that you are a watcher, could there be other roles like jailer or roleblocker that would do the same thing?

I'm wondering why you are so sure that it is only one type.


I watched Egg N1. Got no one visited him. I am odd night watcher so yeah...