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what are the chances that the score exists as a distraction and scum can manipulate it however they want

↑ Cephrir wrote:what are the chances that the score exists as a distraction and scum can manipulate it however they want

didn't you claim to know something about the score mechanic? or was that something else going on?

no, not quite, but people thought i was implying that (when i was actually just trying to prevent rolefishing in case it was important)

i'm now convinced it's not super important so i don't see harm in revealing i don't know anything about it

↑ Cephrir wrote:Dear notscience,

It would be nice if you could provide some reasoning alongside your votes. I think I've been pretty town this game, so I would love to know what makes you think otherwise. Please feel free to contact me at cephrir@town.net if you would like any further information about my qualifications. Thank you for your time and consideration.

Love,
Cephrir

lolololololol. When Ceph empty votes it's okay, but when NS does it it's not...

Iecerint wrote:T-Bone, if you had negative results on both Eddie and Cephrir, why did you only reach out to Cephrir?

I was more likely to get a response from Ceph than I was Eddie.

well yeah, because i'm not scummy

duhhhhh

That's perspective.

Another difference: I've been asked for reasons and admitted to not having one.

It's like, katsuki died, and then all tensions of the game are gone?

what happened to all those who pushed cabd so hard? a counterwagon townflip made you think he's *town*?

This kinda sounds to me like scum were NOT on the katsuki wagon, and were bussing cabd - and now that the pressure's off they're just lurking in the shadows.
I mean seriously, where is everyone? there's much talk(good!) in these last 3-4 pages, but count the votes???

I mean

Sometimes both wagons are town and the scum don't really care

I could definitely see that being what happened too

that can be, the question is what you actually think happened

and who do you scumread now.

I think Reck's scum

T-Bone is still an option but his handling of his role today really took the edge off my desire to steamroll him

Cabd could be scum still but I've never had strong feelings, he's just not here

Iec seems town, Eddie is town, you (shos) are town, Tier feels townish but I'm not very sure about that, same with Rhinox

LLD made me think she was town at some point but I have no idea why

↑ shos wrote:This kinda sounds to me like scum were NOT on the katsuki wagon, and were bussing cabd

This is a relatively low-probability situation.

↑ Cephrir wrote:I think Reck's scum

T-Bone is still an option but his handling of his role today really took the edge off my desire to steamroll him

Cabd could be scum still but I've never had strong feelings, he's just not here

Iec seems town, Eddie is town, you (shos) are town, Tier feels townish but I'm not very sure about that, same with Rhinox

LLD made me think she was town at some point but I have no idea why

This is a good post, thanks.

meh
probably split in the two wagons
LLD made you feel town because of that one townie post but seriously lurking so far into the game is dangerous. she literally has the same amount of posts as cabd.

I'm not sure I'm trusting T-boner. that is super easy to fake, and he has yet to answer why he felt the need to claim now?

↑ T-Bone wrote:Because I wanted to see what you'd do.

That's the quote.

I mean, seriously. why the fuck would a tracker/cop/investigative role of any kind out that he is "for reactions"?

:/

They're probably split between the two wagons in the same sense that an arbitrary collection of six people probably contains one or more scum because math.

I did answer but let's pretend I didn't because that fits your narrative better. Just like I used some extremely under handed tactics because I am scum and that's the type of player I am. Whatever fits your narrative.

your constant confbiasing in one direction or another irritates me

@rhinox:

↑ Rhinox wrote:I feel like I'm starting to understand shos better now and I'm starting to doubt my read on him.

This certainly looks like a read change on shos. Was this only due to the supposed crumb?

↑ Rhinox wrote:Thanks for elaborating, but I still don't really get this. As far as I can tell, the only thing you're really referring to is the string of posts between me, shos, and a post from ns that wasn't directed at me from 680 to 688. And from that, you concluded that I'm "exploring all avenues explorable".

Okay, what I just described in the elaboration was my immediate reaction to the post. It felt like scum buddying up to a few townreads and looking everywhere else for possible lynches. That's a tone-read.

It is not in context. I have not yet done an ISO of you. It's just something that I very much dislike and will keep in mind when I reread you.

If my comment does not fit in context, I'll disregard it. If it does, I'll be damn sure to get your ass hauled. But currently I feel there is more value in interacting with you before completing the picture.

That's a basic description of how I form reads when I'm not sure.

↑ shos wrote:

↑ T-Bone wrote:Because I wanted to see what you'd do.

That's the quote.

I mean, seriously. why the fuck would a tracker/cop/investigative role of any kind out that he is "for reactions"?

:/

↑ T-Bone wrote:I did answer but let's pretend I didn't because that fits your narrative better. Just like I used some extremely under handed tactics because I am scum and that's the type of player I am. Whatever fits your narrative.

Are you reading my posts? see the above.

↑ Cephrir wrote:your constant confbiasing in one direction or another irritates me

also this.

↑ Rhinox wrote:At the very very very most I can see how you would think that maybe I was considering exploring voting you at that point in time, if you're only surface reading words and not really understanding what was going on. But I wasn't, and the rest of the day don't recall ever considering voting for you or talking about you much at all other than to comment that I hadn't been paying much attention to you.

Uh, I thought that was exactly what you were doing. It didn't look like you were joking, I thought you were going to consider voting for me if shos provided good reasoning. Are you saying you were never were?

And I mean you were just asking ceph about me NOT reconsidering on shos so at one point I'm not reconsidering at that raises your eyebrows and then another point I am reconsidering and that also raises your eyebrows so its just starting to look like you have an agenda you're trying to fit actions into rather than interpretting what the actions really mean.

I was actually un-raising my eyebrows at you reconsidering! I was wondering why you did have the change of heart in the end. The timing was certainly suspicious, but you not actually townreading him negates that. I'll talk about your shos read in a bit.

↑ Rhinox wrote:Actually TS I'm moving from "interested in your thought process" to "your points are just bad and scummy as hell"

↑ TierShift wrote:

↑ copper223 wrote:Anyway if you are coming off shos scum take a look at Rhinox, I need a shower.

Marking this as lead for NK

orly? so lemme show you what I just found rereading bins and copper:

↑ Bins wrote:ts, shos, ice,

rhinox for pretty town

So I killed copper because he thought I might be scum even though copper got force-replaced for bins who put me in his "pretty town" pile?

Hey I think you missed this

↑ TierShift wrote:

↑ Cephrir wrote:Copper wasn't in the slot though.

Yes he was

Though the lead is not worth anything seeing his later pushes

Rhinox, I'm going to agree with you that my points on you are not great. I had a bad feeling about you when I started my reread because of your empty shos push. I think that showed in my accusations. You're probably town and I want to work with you.

One thing that made me reconsider is that I AM seeing your points on shos TODAY. I agree that his 'oh katsuki died how the fuck did that happen the whole wagon must be scum together with cabd' is scummy. There are just a few town markers I have for him that he's displaying and I'm probably gonna write a nice long post about that either tomorrow or when I get out of the shower.

Rhino, who do you think is scum other than shos?

VOTE: reck
I feel much more comfortablr here I think.