↑Passionate Storm wrote:EE, it bothers me for such an intelligent player all your results are filtered through klingontown.
You are missing how scum normally behave here.
Maybe. She might be scum. I'm thinking about it.
I do have a question for you, though:
If you believed someone was scum to the fullest, would you do anything to get them lynched, even lie, as town?
Not on d1. Lying as town is only appropriate when you can correct the lie or the lie only hurts scum. For instance, I am fond of bulletproof and macho lies if I do not want a doctor heal and need to Wifom scums.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:26 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
↑Passionate Storm wrote:
Not on d1. Lying as town is only appropriate when you can correct the lie or the lie only hurts scum. For instance, I am fond of bulletproof and macho lies if I do not want a doctor heal and need to Wifom scums.
Ok.
Hmmm.
Alright. VOTE: Klingon
I reserve the right to call you scummy as much as I want d2 if she flips town. No "I was town so I couldn't have known her alignment" or any of that. Yeah, I know exactly what I'm doing. If I'm alive d2 you're not going to strongarm or WIFOM me. I will not give you the benefit of the doubt. You will have to convince me that you're town or I swear I will push your lynch until I run out of breath or you get lynched. And keeping me alive tomorrow will not make me doubt that you're scum.
↑Passionate Storm wrote:
Not on d1. Lying as town is only appropriate when you can correct the lie or the lie only hurts scum. For instance, I am fond of bulletproof and macho lies if I do not want a doctor heal and need to Wifom scums.
Ok.
Hmmm.
Alright. VOTE: Klingon
I reserve the right to call you scummy as much as I want d2 if she flips town. No "I was town so I couldn't have known her alignment" or any of that. Yeah, I know exactly what I'm doing. If I'm alive d2 you're not going to strongarm or WIFOM me. I will not give you the benefit of the doubt. You will have to convince me that you're town or I swear I will push your lynch until I run out of breath or you get lynched. And keeping me alive tomorrow will not make me doubt that you're scum.
If you are going to threaten me, at least use something with a high likelihood of happening. KC is scum. Almost certainly.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:34 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
↑Passionate Storm wrote:
If you are going to threaten me, at least use something with a high likelihood of happening. KC is scum. Almost certainly.
Maybe I'm don't want to.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:29 am
by T S O
My Klingon vote suddenly feels dirty.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:30 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
↑T S O wrote:My Klingon vote suddenly feels dirty.
↑T S O wrote:
Half of the people you're naming here you have literally just picked out of a hat.
The logic you're using doesn't even hold up under basic examination. The bolded is just flat-out wrong.
I would be delighted to see where I have been "jumping all over the place" - it simply hasn't happened.
For those who didn't believe TSO belonged in 1436, what do you think of this? this is quite the reaction to just throwing some names at the wall speculatively
I'm still waiting for you to respond to what I said. Your vague attempt to discredit me calling you out was weak.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:31 am
by T S O
When someone I am scumreading blatantly compromises everything they've done for 50 pages, yes, that definitely does worry me.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:32 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
↑T S O wrote:My Klingon vote suddenly feels dirty.
So much for "eagle is townbeard, right?" I mean, what even are your other reads? You don't even know. You just know that I'm coming after you tomorrow. Because you know her alignment, don't you?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:35 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
You're scummy af right now TSO for backing off after that.
So, so certain that someone is scum that anyone who disagrees with you is scum or isn't reading properly. You know what she's going to flip, don't you? Is that why all of a sudden your scum read of me is blatant? Butter try to undercut this early, huh?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:37 am
by itlepip
TSO I think the townbeard accusation was right, I am not sure where the scumread on EE came from.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:39 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
Make up your mind, TSO. Is she scum? Figure it out right now. Because my threat to passionate storm applies to you as well.
Do you REALLY want this lynch?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:39 am
by T S O
↑T S O wrote:It's a tough one. I'm fairly sure their view of the gamestate is wrong, but that doesn't necessarily indict them as scum. In YCBA III, SkyPaladin did his best to derail everything I did for 2-3 days and he was town.
I would have to say, scum. I really hated their early game play. I haven't disliked them that much after that, but I don't feel they've really redeemed themselves either. My general uneasiness about them has not been allayed.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:42 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
↑T S O wrote:When someone I am scumreading blatantly compromises everything they've done for 50 pages, yes, that definitely does worry me.
And everything I've done?
I am not certain if you are misrepresenting me or simply did not understand what you read. But for the past fifty pages mu interests have been elsewhere. I defended my lack of vote on Klingon and did not even want to discuss it. But so people were so determined to discuss it.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:46 am
by itlepip
oops I forgot that post. TSO I would argue that EE really isn't aligned with Kling here. Again we are looking at 2 factions here, and given that gamestate bussing doesn't make any sense, especially for someone relatively new to the game. If they wanted to bus they would have done so earlier, not suddenly have 1 of them switch after my post. EE being new (please don't take offense here, I really like some of your recent play) means that of all the scum he has the easiest argument for noob stuck on townreading a scum and not being able to change his mentality. I really think his switch was a choice made my him and representative of his reads, which makes him town.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:46 am
by T S O
I do love these attempts at aggression to mask the fact you flat-out lied about your scumteam post.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:49 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
↑T S O wrote:When someone I am scumreading blatantly compromises everything they've done for 50 pages, yes, that definitely does worry me.
↑Extrapolated Eagle wrote:@itlepip I will respond to your argument for Klingon if you respond to my argument for Elyse. Otherwise there's very little point in trying to discuss this with me
I wasn't interested in Klingon. I defended my lack of vote against her.
↑itlepip wrote: Again we are looking at 2 factions here,
Explain what you mean
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:52 am
by jasonT1981
Official Vote Count
Klingoncelt
(10): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Garmr, Varsoon, T S O, Extrapolated Eagle