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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:11 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
Passionate Storm wrote:EE, it bothers me for such an intelligent player all your results are filtered through klingontown.

You are missing how scum normally behave here.


Maybe. She might be scum. I'm thinking about it.

I do have a question for you, though:
If you believed someone was scum to the fullest, would you do anything to get them lynched, even lie, as town?

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:15 am
by Shiro
Passionate Storm wrote:
Shiro wrote:
Extrapolated Eagle wrote:Does vedith usually post more? Should we be worried about his absence?


He is active as town yes. Usually at the bottom of the top posters. Fire tends to be at the high middle of top posters.

This game they are both nowhere.


Correct but when I have lynched Vedith based on this, he has flipped town. See Midnight Sun.


ok no, They had a far far bigger pages:posts ratio than here.

I was there you know. This has almost nothing to do with that game.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:19 am
by Passionate Storm
Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:EE, it bothers me for such an intelligent player all your results are filtered through klingontown.

You are missing how scum normally behave here.


Maybe. She might be scum. I'm thinking about it.

I do have a question for you, though:
If you believed someone was scum to the fullest, would you do anything to get them lynched, even lie, as town?


Not on d1. Lying as town is only appropriate when you can correct the lie or the lie only hurts scum. For instance, I am fond of bulletproof and macho lies if I do not want a doctor heal and need to Wifom scums.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:26 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
Passionate Storm wrote:
Not on d1. Lying as town is only appropriate when you can correct the lie or the lie only hurts scum. For instance, I am fond of bulletproof and macho lies if I do not want a doctor heal and need to Wifom scums.


Ok.



Hmmm.

Alright.
VOTE: Klingon

I reserve the right to call you scummy as much as I want d2 if she flips town. No "I was town so I couldn't have known her alignment" or any of that. Yeah, I know exactly what I'm doing. If I'm alive d2 you're not going to strongarm or WIFOM me. I will not give you the benefit of the doubt. You will have to convince me that you're town or I swear I will push your lynch until I run out of breath or you get lynched. And keeping me alive tomorrow will not make me doubt that you're scum.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:27 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
I believe that is L-2.

@mod, can we get a vote count?

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:27 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
I believe that is L-2.

@mod, can we get a vote count?

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:27 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
I believe that is L-2.

@mod, can we get a vote count?

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:28 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
Sorry about the triple post. >.<

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:30 am
by Passionate Storm
Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
Passionate Storm wrote:
Not on d1. Lying as town is only appropriate when you can correct the lie or the lie only hurts scum. For instance, I am fond of bulletproof and macho lies if I do not want a doctor heal and need to Wifom scums.


Ok.



Hmmm.

Alright.
VOTE: Klingon

I reserve the right to call you scummy as much as I want d2 if she flips town. No "I was town so I couldn't have known her alignment" or any of that. Yeah, I know exactly what I'm doing. If I'm alive d2 you're not going to strongarm or WIFOM me. I will not give you the benefit of the doubt. You will have to convince me that you're town or I swear I will push your lynch until I run out of breath or you get lynched. And keeping me alive tomorrow will not make me doubt that you're scum.



If you are going to threaten me, at least use something with a high likelihood of happening. KC is scum. Almost certainly.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:34 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
Passionate Storm wrote:
If you are going to threaten me, at least use something with a high likelihood of happening. KC is scum. Almost certainly.


Maybe I'm don't want to. :)

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:29 am
by T S O
My Klingon vote suddenly feels dirty.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:30 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
T S O wrote:My Klingon vote suddenly feels dirty.


Is that all it took?

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:31 am
by T S O
Extrapolated Eagle wrote:
T S O wrote:
Half of the people you're naming here you have literally just picked out of a hat.

The logic you're using doesn't even hold up under basic examination. The bolded is just flat-out wrong.

I would be delighted to see where I have been "jumping all over the place" - it simply hasn't happened.


For those who didn't believe TSO belonged in , what do you think of this? this is quite the reaction to just throwing some names at the wall speculatively


I'm still waiting for you to respond to what I said. Your vague attempt to discredit me calling you out was weak.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:31 am
by T S O
When someone I am scumreading blatantly compromises everything they've done for 50 pages, yes, that definitely does worry me.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:32 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
T S O wrote:My Klingon vote suddenly feels dirty.


So much for "eagle is townbeard, right?" I mean, what even are your other reads? You don't even know. You just know that I'm coming after you tomorrow. Because you know her alignment, don't you?

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:35 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
You're scummy af right now TSO for backing off after that.

So, so certain that someone is scum that anyone who disagrees with you is scum or isn't reading properly. You know what she's going to flip, don't you? Is that why all of a sudden your scum read of me is blatant? Butter try to undercut this early, huh?

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:37 am
by itlepip
TSO I think the townbeard accusation was right, I am not sure where the scumread on EE came from.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:39 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
Make up your mind, TSO. Is she scum? Figure it out right now. Because my threat to passionate storm applies to you as well.

Do you REALLY want this lynch?

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:39 am
by T S O
T S O wrote:It's a tough one. I'm fairly sure their view of the gamestate is wrong, but that doesn't necessarily indict them as scum. In YCBA III, SkyPaladin did his best to derail everything I did for 2-3 days and he was town.

I would have to say, scum. I really hated their early game play. I haven't disliked them that much after that, but I don't feel they've really redeemed themselves either. My general uneasiness about them has not been allayed.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:42 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
T S O wrote:When someone I am scumreading blatantly compromises everything they've done for 50 pages, yes, that definitely does worry me.


And everything I've done?
I am not certain if you are misrepresenting me or simply did not understand what you read. But for the past fifty pages mu interests have been elsewhere. I defended my lack of vote on Klingon and did not even want to discuss it. But so people were so determined to discuss it.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:46 am
by itlepip
oops I forgot that post. TSO I would argue that EE really isn't aligned with Kling here. Again we are looking at 2 factions here, and given that gamestate bussing doesn't make any sense, especially for someone relatively new to the game. If they wanted to bus they would have done so earlier, not suddenly have 1 of them switch after my post. EE being new (please don't take offense here, I really like some of your recent play) means that of all the scum he has the easiest argument for noob stuck on townreading a scum and not being able to change his mentality. I really think his switch was a choice made my him and representative of his reads, which makes him town.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:46 am
by T S O
I do love these attempts at aggression to mask the fact you flat-out lied about your scumteam post.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:49 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
T S O wrote:When someone I am scumreading blatantly compromises everything they've done for 50 pages, yes, that definitely does worry me.

Extrapolated Eagle wrote:@itlepip I will respond to your argument for Klingon if you respond to my argument for Elyse. Otherwise there's very little point in trying to discuss this with me


I wasn't interested in Klingon. I defended my lack of vote against her.
itlepip wrote: Again we are looking at 2 factions here,


Explain what you mean

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:52 am
by jasonT1981
Official Vote Count


Klingoncelt
(10): Aunt Jemina, Aneninen, Passionate Storm, itlepip, Spifflop, Elyse, Garmr, Varsoon, T S O, Extrapolated Eagle
Spifflop
(4): grapes, Dapper Stranger, randomidget, PeregrineV
Passionate Storm
(2): Spider Gwen, Alchemist21
Shiro
(1): My Other Head Is Scum
grapes
(1): Shiro
Errantparabola
(1): I Am Innocent
itlepip
(1): Klingoncelt

Not Voting
(3): inte, TheWayItEnds, Errantparabola
V/LA
(1): I am Innocent (Monday)


With 23 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline(expired on 2015-12-27 17:09:57)

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:54 am
by Extrapolated Eagle
I really don't like how absent ep has been since we'be neared a lynch. And he moves WAY up on my suspect list if kling flips scum. Him and AJ both.