True Ogre wrote:What do you like about Cakez?
The short answer is: everything.
A longer answer would basically involve how most of what SirCakez has said resonating with me, and prior experience with SirCakez in the aforementioned White Flag game to have a better grip on him as a player to know he's less likely to be scum for the few factors I
would
see in him. I see absolutely nothing from him which could even remotely indicate him being scum. I see plenty of town thought going into his posts and a player whose thoughts match mine at the time I think things. Pushing Friendless Seniors when I did, pushing Mirhawk at the time I read Mirhawk, pushing you as scum earlier but then, at the same time I did, having that read weaken when your posting improved...lots of timing and tonality things like that.
I frankly think it would be easier and shorter for me to list the posts that
aren't
strongly town from SirCakez, because listing all the posts which are would be me effectively linking to nearly every post in his iso. He's by far my strongest townread; the only reason he's not above the others in that list is that there's no tier I can make above "Untouchable town".
True Ogre wrote:What are your thoughts there?
Basically, all the right notes are there. Sakura Hana's posts are not consistent; they come in key areas, but every time Sakura starts posting, I'm left with a feeling which can more or less be summed up as: starts null, becomes town by the time she's finished her burst of posting. Never does she cross into scum, so the townread remains as-is or strengthened each time. This is in fact ironically the only consistent thing. At the beginning, I wasn't sure about Sakura, but by the end of the RVS, I felt more likely town than not. In the middle of the game, I wasn't sure especially since Sakura Hana wasn't posting as much as I thought she would be, but when she came in she looked town. And in more recent times, that trend has continued: her posting starts okay but doesn't give alignment-indicative content, but after a while, I warm up and see things which look definitively town.
So, not a top-tier townread, but a fairly strong townread all the same.
SirCakez wrote:I read Mafiaception and her play is nothing like it was there.
That was my last Large Theme scumgame, but that would honestly be like looking at my last Large Theme towngame, which was my fourth game on-site...and that's going by sign-up time; by completion-time (as in, was killed via lynch or nightkill), it was either my first or second. I have eight completed scum games: Machina Mafia (oldest), Mafiaception (second-oldest), Blitz 1 (actually might be older than Mafiaception, definitely finished first), Blitz 7 (not indicative of my normal scum game),
Open 628 (once I started playing, anyway; I let PC do the posting for the first half of the game and only started posting when we were the last scum alive),
Blitz 25 (best solo-scum example of my play),
Firebringer's Marathon (it was a marathon, though), and
Mexican Standoff, which was multiball (so I was legitimately scumhunting).
beeboy wrote:Ranger why where your town reads so sticky? 4/4 of your town RVS reads stuck throughout your entire read list?
Easy. There's more town in the game than scum. Naturally, that means I'm going to have more town reads than scum reads, get them easier, and have them stick harder. Every player in that top tier earned their spot except Tammy. (No offense to Tammy, that's not a comment on your play, merely a statement on the nature of my read: town, but for absolutely no tangible reason.) I don't put players in the top-tier lightly. If I did, Pied Piper would already be in there, but because I have slight reservations about both heads (I
want
them to be town, I think they are town, but I'm not absolutely sure because there's the small doubt in there that their scumplay is competent enough where they could be scum), they haven't been promoted.
beeboy wrote:Effort doesn't equal alignment
It kind-of does, though. If I put no effort into a game, it's not alignment-indicative, sure. I'm lazy as both town and scum, putting as little as needed in. When I
do
put effort into a game, though, I am usually town.
davesaz wrote:Ranger's replace-in as scum in Open 627 was similar to this one, though much shorter.
My replace-in that game was nothing like this one. Did you notice that in that game, I made absolutely no effort to read every page? I read enough so that I could have some genuine reads, and then never read a single page more, because that extra effort was unnecessary: I had some real reads, I could fake the rest, I was sitting comfortably the whole game on those exact reads. I held onto reads that should have died (i.e., Almost50), and only reevaluated reads as necessitated by game content and sometimes not even then (again, Almost50). The one and only time I reevaluated a read was chilledtea, the day before lylo, and even then that was because my sincere scumread on Kop was proven wrong (ergo, game content proved me wrong), so I sincerely believed chilledtea was the mafia roleblocker. (Who was my top priority for lynching, as eliminating the mafia roleblocker would give us free reign.)
would never give a read on a single RVS only post, much less a top of the list read, and can't think of a town motivation to do so.
Counterpoint: I'm
Ranger
. I read players off of the RVS. You're correct. I usually have reasons. It's actually annoying me that I don't. Doesn't stop me from having obtained the read in the first place, though.
