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Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:47 am
by Insomniacs
RB

About Kid -- It isn't Kid's dislike of us that is the issue. Transcend dropped the whole "Math sucks" bit after RVS ended. The Doggo hydra is at least providing content and interacting with the thread. The problem with Kid is the majority of his ISO is filled with attacking me rather than anything substantive.

About Tywinn -- When Narna and I were catching up, he pointed out Tywinn's entrance was horrible as well as some of his vote interactions around Doggo. As for me, I was pinged by . He doesn't interact with anyone's concerns and just says "late game player". Eddie did the same thing in 1900 and was scum. Saying "late game player" makes me look at you closer and the slots you're mentioning. This made me look at A50 and Not Chara closer in depth. While I don't have a firm A50 read either way, Not Chara is likely scum. I don't like how he also says "Gamma is obviously scum" but at the same time says that scum can't be lynched. A lot of his posts rub me entirely the wrong way. Why do you townread Tywinn?

About SlySly --
Silence spell cast received
-- Why did you ask me for silence on the topic then make post ?

About Davesaz -- When Dave is town, he asks a lot of clarification questions. Take Elemental Trinity for example, he asked a lot of questions to try to understand reads. In Gistou, where I was scum with him on in a 42 player game, he stalled and asked questions that let other people talk. It looks more of the same thing here to me. I have a rule of thumb for Dave. If he asks Why you say something he's town. If he says Why is something AI/NAI or other questions about theory/getting you to talk more posts he's scum.

Vampire Master -- They're a nullread I could do if I had to. I much prefer Gamma or Tywinn though.

--Math

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:56 am
by rb
Sorry I just meant I didn't want you to explain your TR. I'd like to just share scumreads and if they don't convince the other because our TR is still strong despite it, we don't lynch that person.

My TR on Tywinn is pretty flimsy. Still not preferred lynch but I see your points.

A50 too yeah, I forgot about him =S

Your davesaz read is interesting, and we won't be lynching him day1 I guess.

Thanks Math <3

Do you want me to look into anything or explain something further?

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:58 am
by Titus
@Math, can you please put what reads you want me to review in a single post?

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:59 am
by rb
Titus!!!!

What parts of my not lynch or lynch pool do you disagree with - who do you want me to give a scum case on and who am I TR'ing that you scumread?

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 11:59 am
by Nero Cain
In post 1492, Not Chara wrote:how many players in this game actually care who between their scumreads (or even nullreads) is lynched on day 1 of this game?
tbf, I always care. I guess my play might be a little dated as I don't really d these "information" lynches. I think we should always be lynching scum (or atleast try to)

wich leads me to

bullet case on Gamma?

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:00 pm
by Gamma Emerald
People who are voting me: Carnelian, Insomniacs, rb, Tywin Lannister, Master Vampire, Not Fury, SlySly, Siblings Quarrel, Titus, randomidget, Hiraki (L-6)
People expressing willingness to vote me: Wall, Not Chara, KidAmn, Chairman doggo
Who thinks all of these are Town? Note that while people have stated they don't understand the wagon on me, not one has hard defended me.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:02 pm
by Not Chara
Nero: i'm with you there, but my stance has less to do with information and more to do with my inability to have a good read on every single player in this game, so more willingness to wagon anything that isn't a townread.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:10 pm
by Firebringer
Vote Count 1.08Siblings Quarrel (L-15): Mhsmith0, Nero Cain
Gamma Emerald (L-6): Carnelian, Insomniacs, rb, Tywin Lannister, Master Vampire, Not Fury, SlySly, Siblings Quarrel, Titus, randomidget, Hiraki
Cerberus v666 (L-16) : Tarkus
Master Vampire (L-16): DanelerH
Kidamn (L-15): TheRealGin-N-Tonic, RachMarie
Ramcius (L-15): Not Chara, Chairman Doggo
Tarkus (L-16): PeregrineV,
Scott and Ramona (L-14): Wall, Socrates, Almost50
Tywin Lannister (L-15): Ramcius, Gamma Emerald


Not Voting (7): Shiro, Majiffy, ZZZX, Kidamn, Davesaz, Cerebrus v666, Scott and Ramona


With 32 players alive it takes 17 votes to lynch.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2017-05-18 21:10:00)

Note: Majiffy has requested replacement
Tarkus has requested replacement
DanelerH has requested replacement
ZZX is on V/LA.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:11 pm
by Chairman Doggo
In post 1499, Not Chara wrote:Doggo do you have a read on SlySly or is he just null?
BOTH OF US WANT TO SEIZE HIS TOOTHBRUSH

BОЯК BОЯК


is there a wagon there

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:13 pm
by Titus
In post 1505, Gamma Emerald wrote:People who are voting me: Carnelian, Insomniacs, rb, Tywin Lannister, Master Vampire, Not Fury, SlySly, Siblings Quarrel, Titus, randomidget, Hiraki (L-6)
People expressing willingness to vote me: Wall, Not Chara, KidAmn, Chairman doggo
Who thinks all of these are Town? Note that while people have stated they don't understand the wagon on me, not one has hard defended me.
Regardless of your alignment all are unlikely to be town. An all town D1 with 32 players would be near impossible.

I recommend flavor claiming.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:14 pm
by Gamma Emerald
In post 1509, Titus wrote:
In post 1505, Gamma Emerald wrote:People who are voting me: Carnelian, Insomniacs, rb, Tywin Lannister, Master Vampire, Not Fury, SlySly, Siblings Quarrel, Titus, randomidget, Hiraki (L-6)
People expressing willingness to vote me: Wall, Not Chara, KidAmn, Chairman doggo
Who thinks all of these are Town? Note that while people have stated they don't understand the wagon on me, not one has hard defended me.
Regardless of your alignment all are unlikely to be town. An all town D1 with 32 players would be near impossible.

I recommend flavor claiming.
Andy von de Oniyate.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:20 pm
by Insomniacs
Titus, really we should be getting this flip to make sure we're on the right track. I've pointed out the main reads Narna and I have. If you disagree that's where I'd want you to look in depth so we can align up.

-- Math

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:21 pm
by Not Chara
Doggo: no, but it sounds like there could be.
i don't find his posting AI. what are you two seeing?

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:27 pm
by Chairman Doggo
hasnt scumhunted or really done anything, stuff about us self incriminating ourselves was bad (at least he backed off it??)

not fury townread didnt feel too genuine

not at all a top scumread but yeah i'd lynch it

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:27 pm
by Chairman Doggo
^^ waiting for this mostly ^^

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:33 pm
by Not Chara
In post 1513, Chairman Doggo wrote:not fury townread didnt feel too genuine
i agree she's probably town but now that you mention it, Sly's read was really early and confident.
enough for a scumlean. Sly, what posting brought you to that?

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 1:24 pm
by Chairman Doggo
VOTE: SLYSLY


LETS GO GO GO

HE WAS OBVTOWN IN SURREPTITIOUS

HE IS NOT OBVTOWN NOW

IN FACT I KINDA FOS HIM

~T

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 1:27 pm
by Chairman Doggo
NOT CHARA STOP BEING OBVTOWN

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 1:28 pm
by Not Chara
VOTE: SlySly
that's two players pocketed. let's keep going.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 1:29 pm
by Gamma Emerald
VOTE: SlySly
I'm down with this.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 1:30 pm
by Nero Cain
vote:slysly

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 1:30 pm
by Gamma Emerald
However I asked the mod something and would like an answer before the day ends. DON'T PRY INTO WHAT I ASKED.

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 1:34 pm
by Chairman Doggo
gamma i have a really quick question for u

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 1:35 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Go

Posted: Sun May 07, 2017 1:35 pm
by Chairman Doggo
what did you ask the mod?