Open 708: Pick Your Poison - Game Over

[TesXX]

EP came back before a replacement came in, so he may stay.

[RadiantCowbells]

FUCK

[RadiantCowbells]

I hate this game

replace me


please dont

[TesXX]

My sarcasm detector is bad, is this serious?

[RadiantCowbells]

see: please dont

[Thor665]

We need more people to gangpile on a lynch and get it to L-1.

I still suggest Moz as a solid option.
Klick is also acceptable.
EP is a fine choice as well.

[RadiantCowbells]

only if its mozamis or beefster

[Thor665]

Moz it is then, as that's where our reads meet.
Though I'll admit Beef is working hard to look worthy of lynching, I still think there is some HWS interactions that don't sell me on Beef scum very well.

[RadiantCowbells]

Assuming Moz flips scum, go back and read the game focusing on how Moz interacts with Beef and HWS.

[mozamis]

in some ways this is strightforward.
there is a clear town bloc of Me, RC, Flubb, Thor and Cult.
I could do anyone else. In order probably:
Ep, Tex, Beef, Max, Klick.
Klick is close to my town pile. Certainly Ep, Tex, beef and Max havent done much.
You lynch me, you lynch one of the most acitve town players in the game, which is madness.
Thor needs to calm down and he will see this.

[mozamis]

@Beefster - why the sudden reverse on the Thor/Moz situation? You have been having a habit of late of just kind of going with the flow, and it's not as endearing as your earlier play.

that is a good call, Beef you think me and Thor are scum together? I mean...wtf??!!

Um. No. If anything, you're mutually exclusive.

I can see moz/COA/HWS or Thor/HWS/??? but not Thor/moz/HWS

But tbh, I haven't really been paying super close attention to the game.

so me thor and Cult are your biggest scum reads?
Made up nonsense.

[Thor665]

Thor needs to calm down and he will see this.

I believe I am calm, but you were straight up lying and frothing over a ridiculous case.
That's a scum tell.
That you aren't even coming back and giving me some sort of answer like 'I do think you lied, but I think town lie' or 'I don't think you lie and never did but advanced that claim anyway to lynch you' or...something, assuredly does not sit well with me in whatever world I'm supposed to read you as town in.

[mozamis]

obviously you didnt lie beacuse you are town.
wahT do want, "I GOT MY READ ON THOR WRONG, LOVE MOZAMIS".
Sure, i'll give you that, as long as you do the same to Flubb, yeah?
WE ALL GET READS WRONG THIS IS MAFIA FOR FUCKS SAKE.

[Thor665]

A lie is objective, not subjective.

[Thor665]

And I never presented anything untrue about Flubb. He's even half admitted it himself. He made up meta on me.
The only issue is whether you think that was a valid reason for me to scumread him or not.

You did present untruths on me.
I scumread that.
I scumread that quite a lot.
Especially when paired with empty attacks.

[Flubbernugget]

at this point I'm reading both Thor/RC spat as town and Beefster town. What's your logic on scumBeef?

Beefs been on every wagon that looked like a viable lynch

[RadiantCowbells]

According to my deep and detailed analysis of Thor's meta, in 100% of games where he is scum he votes Mozamis.

[Flubbernugget]

For the love of all fuck Thor it wasn't a half admission. Town can misrember things. You didn't account for that in your scumhunting and you look like an idiot for it. You're making shit frames to preserve your ego over your shit fucking read.

You're consistently making arguments with people that accomplish more points scoring than anything else.

Please stop.

[Thor665]

If you had misremembered I wish that the first time I asked you to back it up you had said 'sorry, I remembered wrong'.
That you didn't for multiple days is why we went down the hole.
I'll apologize if it's pissing you off - but, no, I don't think my method was bad, just the read.

[Thor665]

Like.
Let's just take the "point scoring" out of it, because we all know I'm more "right" than Moz and let's look at the actual Smurfing question I'm really asking.

What I'm asking is - yo, if you're town, why did you lie and say I lied *OR* why do you think lying Thor is town.

He has failed to answer this - correct? (correct)

Why?

And with that above 'why?' how oes that translate to town Moz.
That's why I'm doing this.
Not points.
The points are just an enjoyable side effect.

[Beefster]

@Beefster - why the sudden reverse on the Thor/Moz situation? You have been having a habit of late of just kind of going with the flow, and it's not as endearing as your earlier play.

that is a good call, Beef you think me and Thor are scum together? I mean...wtf??!!

Um. No. If anything, you're mutually exclusive.

I can see moz/COA/HWS or Thor/HWS/??? but not Thor/moz/HWS

But tbh, I haven't really been paying super close attention to the game.

so me thor and Cult are your biggest scum reads?

Yep. Pretty much. EP is somewhere in there, maybe. I'm semi-sheeping on that.

Most of my moz/COA suspicion are based on D1 and some possible links between the two of your that I'm too lazy to dive into right now.

[mozamis]

The funny thing is, I am more likely to get lynched now than Tex or EP. They must be lauging their ARSES off in the scum PT.
That catch up post from EP didn't contain anything that looked like scumhunting. He's happy to sheep RC's reads "Max/Klick/Tex" - no reasons given - then happy to vote me a few posts later. No reason given.
Him or Tex for me.
I'll vote Beef we have absolutely have to, but his posts like "not really following the game" have the ring of truth.
And the way he is flinging his vote around - not unlike me - makes me doubt hes scum. It's not blending in UNLIKE EP OR TEX WHICH IS ALL THEY DO.

VOTE: ep

[Flubbernugget]

I asked you to back it up

I could score points here about you asking in some bullshit roundabout manner that was as weak as a 13y old trying to figure out if someone has a crush on them

But I'm not going to

[Flubbernugget]

This is wrong of me.

I shouldn't have said anything. I know better.

I'll have moz and Thor on shutoff now, sorry.

[TesXX]

Klick has been prodded.