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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:08 pm
by MariaR
PP is def on the easier side of lynches imo

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:14 pm
by Shoshin
Who wants to lynch PP?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:14 pm
by Shoshin
I'd actually like to see how many people support this "easy" lynch.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:17 pm
by the worst
Eeehhhh
Not really no

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:19 pm
by Shoshin
the worst, you don't want to lynch PP?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:20 pm
by PenguinPower
In post 1498, Shoshin wrote:Because you're scummier than Nahdia, and your association to Nahdia has nothing to do with that.
Why am I? I'm waiting for your wall.

But, if you think that Nahdia is scum and confirms me being scum, it doesn't make sense for you not to vote Nahdia. You didn't say that the inverse means the same, so it leads me to believe you don't really mean what you say.
In post 1499, Shoshin wrote:I've caught up. There's plenty of discussion about other lynches, so I don't think you're an "easy" lynch by any means. There's been resistance to it, even if that resistance hasn't always been directly defensive of you.
I'm the leading wagon at L-2 that happened in less than 24 hours. I'm a hard lynch?

The rest of your posts are like...bad.

See...this is why I like wagons!

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:25 pm
by Shoshin
PP, if you don't want to die, convince me that someone else is scummier than you.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:27 pm
by PenguinPower
I'm not really worried about your opinion or threats.

Why not answer my question or respond to my statements?

I'm headed to bed, so I'll check in tomorrow.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:29 pm
by the worst
In post 1504, Shoshin wrote:the worst, you don't want to lynch PP?
the worst wrote:Eeehhhh
Not really no

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:31 pm
by Shoshin
Why not?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:34 pm
by the worst
In post 1474, the worst wrote:hardcore not comfortable with this PP wagon but I'm not totally around enough right now to process why it feels wrong or where to go next. Agreed, please do not hammer this.
In post 1472, Taly wrote:I'm underaged in the US so I'm going to need some apple juice in order to think about PP's posts rn.
may I suggest Australia? :twisted:

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:35 pm
by Shoshin
lol what age can you drink in Australia?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 4:35 pm
by the worst
18 :3

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:42 pm
by Punreader
In post 1317, the worst wrote:Idk how to calculate your average exactly though.
I included the math in the spoiler.

You total the amount of points each player received.
You total the amount of votes each player received. (Some players received more, by virtue of their scores being known or in my case, zeros and ones being doubled.)
You divide the amount of points each player received by the amount of votes each player received to get their average.

I'm not 100% certain this was the method utilized, but it is the method I'd most strongly suspect as it's simple and intuitive to handle.
In post 1332, Taly wrote:
Pun
, can you give me your thoughts on
Fire/Maria
?
I could see any combination of town-town, pun-pun, town-pun, or pun-town as possible. I can tell you on play I am not punreading MariaR, which would make it slightly more likely it's town-town or pun-town, but this is not locked in. Regardless of their alignment, however, correct play is to let both live and gather more results.

After all, if both are town then pun can't let both go unchecked.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:53 pm
by Punreader
In post 1399, Vaxkiller wrote:@punreader
Whats your read on thebrawlguy/deasvail/theworst?
People seem to think that just because players have posted, the information from those new posts should always change a read. While that is certainly true of certain circumstances, you would be sorely mistaken if you thought that the content we have seen generated would shift any of my reads significantly as 90% of it is what I'd define as worthless.

My read on them hasn't changed, because nothing they have posted has shifted my stance on them since the last time I shared:
In post 370, Punreader wrote:
FINICKY FIVES:

the worst
DeasVail

TERRIBLE TWOS:

TehBrawlGuy
Since then, I have stated the worst is worthy of promotion to a six (light townread), but his position on the readslist doesn't shift at all even given that; he's still right between MariaR (originally Espeonage but Espeonage is promoted to ten on the grounds of being a cop innocent) and Fire Assassin.

The largest possible influence on my reads right now would be either a claim or a lynch; I don't foresee anything changing my stances aside from one of those two.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 5:57 pm
by Punreader
In post 1454, ManWithNoName wrote:10. Srceenplay
10. Taly
10. TheBrawlGuy
9. Chara
8. Shoshin
7. The Worst
6. vaxkiller
6. Dunnstral
5. Fire Assassin
5. Nahdia
4. pine
4. pun reader
3. lovebird
2. nico
1. mariar
0. deasvail
0. espe
0. PP
I will compile this tomorrow and see how it alters the final scores.

I would like to state however:
In post 1455, ManWithNoName wrote:You know what, I've been thinking about it, and I cannot see a reason not to claim my role at this point.

I am Psyche, the message facilitator. During the night phase, I choose two people to get prompts to send a short message to each other along with the scores that they gave each other. Or, at least I'm pretty sure it's to each other, I'm still awaiting definite clarification on that aspect.

Both the people chosen by Screenplay last night are still alive, and I would have probably gone with one who was more likely to be voted out and one who was unlikely to be voted out, but that's just me.
This sounds like a punclaim to me.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:01 pm
by Punreader
In post 1456, TehBrawlGuy wrote:It would almost definitely fail if I were mafia and boosted by my teammates.
We know the rankings given are fairly accurate to the scores we know; as a result, it can be deduced players were almost certainly honest about their rankings.

Thus, no player claimed to boost you that did not actually boost you.

It did not escape my attention how many players have boosted you and when I recompile the data tomorrow I'm going to be taking a look at precisely that.
In post 1467, Shoshin wrote:Screen's rankings feel pretty townie to me.
Quite the opposite to me.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 6:03 pm
by Punreader
In post 1485, Taly wrote:On second thought, I don't want another replacement to muddy the waters here.
VOTE: Nahdia
Speaking as a player who specializes in turning punread town slots into strong townreads.

I do.

Especially when the Nahdia wagon reeks of being a pun counterwagon to the PenguinPower wagon.

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:01 pm
by Errantparabola
Votecount 2.12


PenguinPower
(6): TehBrawlGuy, Punreader, DeasVail, Shoshin, Vaxkiller, ManWithNoName
Nahdia
(5): MariaR/Chara, Dunnstral, PenguinPower, Taly
Dunnstral
(1): Fire Assassin
Fire Assassin
(1): Espeonage

Not Voting
(2): Nahdia, the worst

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to achieve a majority.
Deadline in (expired on 2018-07-04 23:06:00)

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:08 pm
by ManWithNoName
I'm always confused by this, how is PP an "easy lynch" if it's taken over a week to get him to L-2?

Like, what is a hard lynch in people's books, then?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:14 pm
by the worst
let's do thisssssssss

scores are approximate since the double-weighted scores are not an exact doubling of themselves (evidenced by Pine's slot; to get his average he'd have needed a 0 from Reuben/Lovebird which we know is not correct).
even so these are probably close enough to the actual scores that I'm feeling comfortable.


PositionNameRank
1stChara8.29
2ndthe worst7.19
3rdTaly6.71
4thTehBrawlGuy6.29
5thDunnstral6.25
6thPunreader6.06
7thNahdia6.00
8thDeasVail5.56
9thEspeonage5.56
10thShoshin5.44
11thMariaR5.38
12thPine4.94
13thManWithNoName4.75
14thFire Assassin4.71
15thVaxkiller4.13
16thPenguinPower4.06
17thLovebird2.00
18thNicoRobin1.63




Spoiler: data tabled (more #aesthetic than useful but....fight me)
X axis : receiver of score
Y axis : giver of score


RECEIVER
GIVER
TehBrawlGuy
Taly
Punreader
MariaR
DeasVail
Espeonage
Dunnstral
Nahdia
the worst
Pine
Shoshin
Fire Assassin
Lovebird
Chara
ManWithNoName
Vaxkiller
PenguinPower
NicoRobin
TehBrawlGuy
101108509621074563400
Taly
510106602495813107004
Punreader
010106469850752101403
MariaR
941010510508243066170
DeasVail
310100102459485167600
Espeonage
984561010470301521060
Dunnstral
297648105543100106010
Nahdia
451035621074691100080
the worst
610586927104310100450
Pine
10900108100
Shoshin
810506364911020107504
Fire Assassin
823950410746101106040
Lovebird
Chara
101086545970643100021
ManWithNoName
101041006574853910602
Vaxkiller
007064210510495361081
PenguinPower
900108710362445056101
NicoRobin
4608820141212200021610101810
AVERAGE
AVERAGE
AVERAGE
AVERAGE
AVERAGE
AVERAGE
AVERAGE
AVERAGE
AVERAGE
AVERAGE
AVERAGE
AVERAGE
AVERAGE
AVERAGE
AVERAGE
AVERAGE
AVERAGE
AVERAGE
6.29
6.71
6.06
5.38
5.56
5.56
6.25
6.00
7.19
4.94
5.44
4.71
2.00
8.29
4.75
4.13
4.06
1.63
TENS
TENS
TENS
TENS
TENS
TENS
TENS
TENS
TENS
TENS
TENS
TENS
TENS
TENS
TENS
TENS
TENS
TENS
4
7
6
2
1
3
3
3
1
4
1
2
0
9
2
3
1
1
ZEROES
ZEROES
ZEROES
ZEROES
ZEROES
ZEROES
ZEROES
ZEROES
ZEROES
ZEROES
ZEROES
ZEROES
ZEROES
ZEROES
ZEROES
ZEROES
ZEROES
ZEROES
2
2
3
3
1
4
0
2
0
3
1
2
4
1
3
5
7
8
unaccounted votes
1
1
1
2
2
2
2
1
2
1
2
1
2
1
2
2
1
2
unaccounted points
???
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0
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11
av. unacc. score
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0
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5.5

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:15 pm
by the worst
...the fuck

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:18 pm
by ManWithNoName
In post 1521, the worst wrote:...the fuck
Huh?

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:20 pm
by the worst
Spoiler: for chara only, no one else look
Image

Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:22 pm
by the worst
In post 1522, ManWithNoName wrote:
In post 1521, the worst wrote:...the fuck
Huh?
I hadn't really been paying attention to my own rankings. never expected to be 2nd.