[Game Over] Open 743 - The Crown of Misery

[Nako]

Thor665 (L-3)

: Creature, rb, Nako

rb (L-4)

: Thor665, Something_Smart

DarkLightA (L-5)

: Egix96

Malakitty (L-5)

: Auro

Leodanny, Malakitty, DarkLightA, Lamees

VOTE: Thor665
1 scum between Thor and rb.
Hopefully, Creature is town.
Lamees did not die so she is also a scum?

Why Thor over RB?
If you're (or were) considering the possibility that Lamees is scum, why can't Thor v RB be TvT?

I thought of that because they are voting each other and I am assumint they know each other well.

[Thor665]

idk, just that Persivul kill feels like something a scumteam with you in would do considering Persivul is an older player.

I agree he's an older player.
Not sure how that makes me more likely to kill him than other players here, but as long as you're saying 'feel' can't really debate it.
Help me lynch rb?

Also you still give the feels that your posts are just walls and nothing more. Like, staying on rb while leaving others on their own.

I'll agree I'm not really trying to talk about other people.
I'll note that I'm still interacting with Auro, Gamma, Nako, You, and to a light extent Lamees.
The remaining players are already listed as town reads/leans by me or are Mala and Leo who are barely here.
I'll agree I'm focused on rb - but, y'know, I'm kinda trying to lynch him so...yeah, that's how you get lynches so that's what I'm doing, but to suggest I'm avoiding/not interacting with other players is objectively untrue and if you're town and basing a read off that you need to shape up your read and get better.

I do agree with you that it's not a valid casing method by itself.
However, I don't think Creature was really "casing" you just based on that in the first place.
You were in his PoE pool, and the NK is consistent with the possibility of your being scum, whether or not you dictated the kill or not.
I *think* this would be enough for him to have voted at the time, given his play.

I agree that if he randomly decides I'm in his PoE pool (with little to no logic) and then he mentions 'hey, a guy died that because of 'feels' Thor is more likely to kill then, yeah, sure, he can vote me over that.
I'll poke at it to make him (and apparently you) have to defend it on those merits so that, hopefully if you're town you'll wake up or if you're scum you'll reveal yourself. Switch my name with anyone else in his pool (or outside of it) and the case remains functionally unchanged - which is why it's a poor case.

I don't get the point of this post from you.

[Thor665]

VOTE: Thor665
1 scum between Thor and rb.
Hopefully, Creature is town.
Lamees did not die so she is also a scum?

Why Thor over RB?
If you're (or were) considering the possibility that Lamees is scum, why can't Thor v RB be TvT?

I thought of that because they are voting each other and I am assumint they know each other well.

Why do you assume this?

[rb]

that's a bad assumption but i'm pretty sure you're correct and that thor is scum

[rb]

@mod did Persivul get an N0 peek?

[Creature]

I think it's all a matter of PoE and scum are obviously gonna attack whoever I am townreading (such as rb or Lamees) if I happen to be right.

[Creature]

Mini 2044 can easily repeat if scum lets town start listening to me

[rb]

i wonder why persivul died honestly

his main scumreads were leodanny, lamees and DVa slot, thor was kind of an afterthought

[Thor665]

I think it's all a matter of PoE and scum are obviously gonna attack whoever I am townreading (such as rb or Lamees) if I happen to be right.

I agree with you on Lamees you dolt. I thought he was town prior to the claim nonesense even.
Your town read on rb is about as sensible as you complaining I'm not talking about or interacting with other slots.
Stop doing the shallow crud and go for some meat already.

[Creature]

He was one of the players doing reasonable stuff rather than just vomiting walls.

[Something_Smart]

UNVOTE:
I don't see what Creature sees but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt

[Creature]

Like, RB's cop TMI slip is the closest I have to a grip on this game

I seriously doubt that's a slip. Sometimes people forget to say "if" or "hypothetically" or whatever.

[rb]

UNVOTE:
I don't see what Creature sees but I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt

wat

[rb]

that must be a really strong creature TR you have there

[Auro]

I agree that if he randomly decides I'm in his PoE pool (with little to no logic) and then he mentions 'hey, a guy died that because of 'feels' Thor is more likely to kill then, yeah, sure, he can vote me over that.
I'll poke at it to make him (and apparently you) have to defend it on those merits so that, hopefully if you're town you'll wake up or if you're scum you'll reveal yourself. Switch my name with anyone else in his pool (or outside of it) and the case remains functionally unchanged - which is why it's a poor case.

I don't get the point of this post from you.

Oh, cool that you agree on that.
My larger point is that your reaction ("You think I'd dictate that kill?", "That's not my scumplay" or whatever) wasn't actually combating Creature's reasons for voting you, but just serves as a distraction. Whether or not you dictated the kill, as I said before, is irrelevant. Baiting him into that line of conversation seems like the kinda thing scum!you would do, as opposed to a clearer defense entailing if there were any other reasons behind the case, or pointing it out then that the Persivul NK would be equally likely from others in his pool too.

Also, no, it's not fully functionally unchanged if you swap it out with anyone. Persi had RB as town, and RB was already drawing a lot of "lynch energy" -- I can't really imagine RB killing Persi.

I'll note that I'm still interacting with Auro,

Gamma

, Nako, You, and to a light extent Lamees.

Seems like I'm not the only one

[Something_Smart]

that must be a really strong creature TR you have there

It's decently strong, yeah. Creature doesn't try this hard as scum.

[Auro]

It's decently strong, yeah. Creature doesn't try this hard as scum.

Cool, so you townread Creature and don't scumread RB anymore.
What are your other reads?

[MiniDeathStar]

Notice

Leodanny

is pending replacement for inactivity.

[Something_Smart]

It's decently strong, yeah. Creature doesn't try this hard as scum.

Cool, so you townread Creature and don't scumread RB anymore.
What are your other reads?

I still scumread rb, but I recognize that my opinion could be wrong.

I like Egix, Lamees and maybe DLA for town. Creature's reasoning on Nako makes some sense.
You could be scum if rb isn't, Thor could be scum, Leo no clue and I need to interact more with the slot.

Aside from Creature and Lamees my townreads aren't that strong, so odds are not bad that one of them is scum. Take this with a grain of salt.

[Auro]

You could be scum if rb isn't, Thor could be scum

I'd like you to talk more about why I could be scum if RB isn't, and how you think Thor could be scum.

[Egix96]

@mod did Persivul get an N0 peek?

Looks like she missed this

@Mod: does the Priest have a Night 0 result?

[Egix96]

i wonder why persivul died honestly

Because your buddies overruled you

More serious answer: Most likely because he was near-universally townread.

[MiniDeathStar]

No, priests don't get a N0 investigation.

[Egix96]

No, priests don't get a N0 investigation.

Thank you

[Lamees]

Like, RB's cop TMI slip is the closest I have to a grip on this game

I seriously doubt that's a slip. Sometimes people forget to say "if" or "hypothetically" or whatever.

Why'd you quote this?