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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:05 am
by Fuscosco
I dpont think it was omgusy. thats a broad brush stroke for your play, since omgusy is far more nuanced.

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:05 am
by Fuscosco
do you still think td is scum?


if bef is not a good wagon, who is?

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:10 am
by NanceFloor
In post 1490, Fuscosco wrote:First they said scum for raisins
then it was guiltied scum
now its 'ima 180' on you


rc's been full of shit all day, and youre eating it up
Did you read the initial version of this setup? Town!RC did the exact same thing there.

Calling me “guiltied scum”, I mean but he told me later he was just trolling me in that. That’s why I was pissed when he did it again, eventhough I obviously knew that it couldn’t have been a serious push. Because last time, I did take it seriously and then the mod immediately locked the thread before I could defend myself. I was literally freaking out to the mod that RC was going to drive a mislynch on me and I would miss it, due to not having any clue when the thread would re-open. And I hardly got any sleep that night because of that and yes, RC knew damned well how I felt about that, so I was upset that he did that to me again, knowing how it had affected me last time.

While this is far from fullproof, I think scum!RC is far more likely to deathtunnel than town!RC. Also I think RC changing his mind a lot is somewhat town indicative.

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:11 am
by Fuscosco
was 'scumread you for reasons' really a reference to the last game?

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:13 am
by NanceFloor
In post 1500, Fuscosco wrote:I dpont think it was omgusy. thats a broad brush stroke for your play, since omgusy is far more nuanced.
<3 Thanks for saying that.

How is it “nuanced”?

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:20 am
by Fuscosco
well first, omgus is kind of town at its base. its that scum can also do it to blend in.
then you have a hydra head who is objectively not omgusy.
In post 255, NanceFloor wrote:I think TD could be scum. First they sr for no reason whatsoever
this is omgusy

omgus involves making reads around the tunnel instead of making reads independent of that or even making a new read on your tunnel.
you havent reallllly been pushing the omgus as hard as i would expect you too... after all, you just caught scum red-handed, right?

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:22 am
by Fuscosco
Omgus is a shallow read that gets serious because of the confirmation bias effect.

I say something wrong, you react to that, I say more things to defend myself that reinforce the read with hostility, and it goes on.

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:23 am
by themilkcartonkid
In post 1506, Fuscosco wrote:Omgus is a shallow read that gets serious because of the confirmation bias effect.

I say something wrong, you react to that, I say more things to defend myself that reinforce the read with hostility, and it goes on.
This may be something that happens, but that is not what I meant by omgus

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:25 am
by NanceFloor
In post 1501, Fuscosco wrote:do you still think td is scum?


if bef is not a good wagon, who is?
Probably, they are still my strongest sr but Bezeau head is causing me a bit of doubt. Temporal Mislyncher head has been actively scummy all game. First sr us then questioing that, then tr us, then pushing our mislynch as the anti 8 ball and then rb to sr us and calling us “caught scum” for reasons that make no sense to anyone other than him, apparently.

BEF just seems genuine to me. I also don’t get the Clemency srs. Why does scum!Clemency tr me here? I don’t see how he’s extremely different here than in UtS.

I’m having doubts on tmck, not enough to unvote him yet but far from convinced he’s scum. I didn’t like Overkill11’s 8 ball post but Dann rolled scum with him before and is convinced he’s playing differently here, so I’ll trust his read on that.

But yeah, I do think TD has objectively been the scummiest player in this game so far.

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:29 am
by NanceFloor
In post 1503, Fuscosco wrote:was 'scumread you for reasons' really a reference to the last game?
No, I was town in that too. Didn’t you read the part, where I was freaking out to the mod, that I was worried about him driving a mislynch on me, that I wouldn’t be able to defend myself against?

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:34 am
by NanceFloor
In post 1505, Fuscosco wrote:well first, omgus is kind of town at its base. its that scum can also do it to blend in.
then you have a hydra head who is objectively not omgusy.
In post 255, NanceFloor wrote:I think TD could be scum. First they sr for no reason whatsoever
this is omgusy

omgus involves making reads around the tunnel instead of making reads independent of that or even making a new read on your tunnel.
you havent reallllly been pushing the omgus as hard as i would expect you too... after all, you just caught scum red-handed, right?
If no one is listening to me, what seriously do you expect me to do? It’s not like I have a hard guilty on them. That doesn’t mean they can’t be my strongest sr. I work best with flips, they tell me a lot. If that slot doesn’t do something to town tf up soon, that will change. Rn, I think if they get anywhere near endgame, we could lose - irrespective of their alignment.

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:37 am
by Fuscosco
In post 1509, NanceFloor wrote:Didn’t you read the part
i didnt read the other game.

i dont know what happened there other than momo and inscissor plotting and 8balls

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:37 am
by NanceFloor
In post 1506, Fuscosco wrote:Omgus is a shallow read that gets serious because of the confirmation bias effect.

I say something wrong, you react to that, I say more things to defend myself that reinforce the read with hostility, and it goes on.
Well I disagree that my post was OMGUSsy because I did and still do have damned good reasons for sr that slot and I’ve already given my case on it but so far, the only one to take it seriously has been my hydra partner, which is beyond frustrating. :/

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:38 am
by NanceFloor
In post 1511, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 1509, NanceFloor wrote:Didn’t you read the part
i didnt read the other game.

i dont know what happened there other than momo and inscissor plotting and 8balls
I said that RC called me “guiltied scum” in that too. We were both town in it.

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:39 am
by Fuscosco
I think td is being lazy.
i think they wont make it endgame doing so
i also believe that they are better lynched another day, based on the benefit they give us. theres little info in it, and the chance of them flipping scum isnt superspectacular.

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:40 am
by Fuscosco
In post 1513, NanceFloor wrote:
In post 1511, Fuscosco wrote:
In post 1509, NanceFloor wrote:Didn’t you read the part
i didnt read the other game.

i dont know what happened there other than momo and inscissor plotting and 8balls
I said that RC called me “guiltied scum” in that too. We were both town in it.
yea, which makes it referential and slightly less crap. imo

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:40 am
by Fuscosco
I thought she was stringing you around.

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:41 am
by NanceFloor
In post 1514, Fuscosco wrote:I think td is being lazy.
i think they wont make it endgame doing so
i also believe that they are better lynched another day, based on the benefit they give us. theres little info in it, and the chance of them flipping scum isnt superspectacular.
Why are you convinced they’re being “lazy”?

My strength early game is townblocking, I generally don’t have strong sr until usually D3.

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:43 am
by NanceFloor
In post 1516, Fuscosco wrote:I thought she was stringing you around.
Yeah he was. He told me as much post-game.

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:44 am
by Fuscosco
Theyre lurking around, despite having the clear ability to play.

its . . . kinda scummy, sure. but its not something i think we can push without a giant wagon, and nobody has expressed a real interest in that.
we also have other options around that take less energy to push on. in a large game, there is an economy of sorts, and we simply cant push every lurker and every scumread in the first day.



Games that try to end up with 2 or 3 powertownies who clash and/or domino claims on day1.

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:44 am
by themilkcartonkid
Nancefloor, who do you lynch RIGHT NOW if you had to?

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:46 am
by NanceFloor
In post 1520, themilkcartonkid wrote:Nancefloor, who do you lynch RIGHT NOW if you had to?
I think I’ve made that abundantly clear but even my hydra partner is questioning it. :/

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:54 am
by themilkcartonkid
In post 1514, Fuscosco wrote:I think td is being lazy.
i think they wont make it endgame doing so
i also believe that they are better lynched another day, based on the benefit they give us. theres little info in it, and the chance of them flipping scum isnt superspectacular.
@nance I will sheep you if it's not me. I got a weird vibe from this which makes me be paranoid about all my reads

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:03 am
by themilkcartonkid
Hot Take: fuscosco and bef are scum, chenn is 8ball

Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:03 am
by Fuscosco
'hot take'