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Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:26 am
by Farkran
Also it's funny because you're saying i'm the one who's not reading, but you also claim i don't like your content when i went from scumreading you to a townlean based on my exchange with you, lol.

Your tunnel on me looks real, you can be town.

VOTE: bitmap, who once again jumps on bait without providing motive

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:26 am
by Evenstar
worth noting that thread seems split between sheep & don't sheep severa

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:34 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 1498, Evenstar wrote:Current assocs:
~ = "Tied to" - Appear connected
/ = "Distant from" - Appear disconnected
# = "Entangled with" - Significant ambiguous interaction

Bitmap ~ Severa
Pops ~ Kerset
TL ~ Severa
TL ~ Gamma
TL ~ Farkran
Severa ~ Sujimichi

Alchemist / Kerset
Chemist / Kerset
Severa / Kerset
TL / Kerset
Salamence / Pops
Bitmap / Pops
Farkran / V&M
Salamence / TL

Alchemist # TL
Salamence # Severa
Severa # V&M
Severa # Pops
Farkran # Sujimichi
V&M # Pops
Sujimichi # TL

Isolated reads
- no associatives or claims, behaviour only, town or scum only, Final Destination
Town:
Kerset
Severa
Pops
V&M
Alchemist

Scum:
TL
Bitmap
Salamence
Chemist
Farkran
Sujimichi

Lynchability indexing:

Self-resolving:
Severa
Bitmap
V&M
Chemist

N1 informative:
Salamence
TL
Farkran

Must die pre-LyLo:
Severa
TL

Leftovers:
Gamma
Sujimichi
Pops
Kerset
Alchemist

I want to dunk one of these 5 people today. Kerset doesn't feel like the one. Pops feels a little better, but I wouldn't prefer their lynch. Alchemist & Gamma get no support. Let's try VOTE: Sujimichi.

blah blah billion previews ye w/e phone dying
Why do you want to lynch from your leftover category as opposed to your scum category? Also why is Salamence scum?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:38 am
by Salamence20
Yeah, I thought I was "special"

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:40 am
by Bitmap
In post 1503, Salamence20 wrote:Yeah, I thought I was "special"
It's okay, Severa thinks you're very "special".

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:43 am
by Salamence20
In post 1488, Bitmap wrote:You're in charge of handling Severa when he comes charging in this thread all angry because we're not sheeping him btw.
Image

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:44 am
by Salamence20
Really though, my vote isn't moving.

Farkran is really bad right now for squirming around lol

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 6:58 am
by Bitmap
I just realized pops left out Farkran out of her reads list.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:23 am
by popsofctown
Farkran is scummy. He is doing a reliable job of mimicking his high level of analysis he has as town, but the analysis is seems low quality/wrong too often, in ways where it'd be okay if it happened once but over and over it seems like he's being forced to scumread town or townread scum or use the correct answer and work backwards.
Salamence pointed out Venus and Mars are sheeping less than Alchemist, but I would go way further and say nothing about V&M iso is particularly sheepy, V&M has one of the more independent isos to me. Accusing them of being sheepy for reaching the same
conclusions
of other players seems like something that would only occur to a Farkran that is frustrated by a correctly identified townblock or delighting in teasing a slot for making the same misread the rest of the game is.
Sorry he missed my late night readslist.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:24 am
by popsofctown
VOTE: Farkran

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:31 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 1508, popsofctown wrote:
Farkran is scummy. He is doing a reliable job of mimicking his high level of analysis he has as town, but the analysis is seems low quality/wrong too often, in ways where it'd be okay if it happened once but over and over it seems like he's being forced to scumread town or townread scum or use the correct answer and work backwards.
Salamence pointed out Venus and Mars are sheeping less than Alchemist, but I would go way further and say nothing about V&M iso is particularly sheepy, V&M has one of the more independent isos to me. Accusing them of being sheepy for reaching the same
conclusions
of other players seems like something that would only occur to a Farkran that is frustrated by a correctly identified townblock or delighting in teasing a slot for making the same misread the rest of the game is.
Sorry he missed my late night readslist.
Pops is definitely town, not touching that wagon with a ten foot pole.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:33 am
by Farkran
Holy shit pops is scum.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:41 am
by Alchemist21
In post 1510, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1508, popsofctown wrote:
Farkran is scummy. He is doing a reliable job of mimicking his high level of analysis he has as town, but the analysis is seems low quality/wrong too often, in ways where it'd be okay if it happened once but over and over it seems like he's being forced to scumread town or townread scum or use the correct answer and work backwards.
Salamence pointed out Venus and Mars are sheeping less than Alchemist, but I would go way further and say nothing about V&M iso is particularly sheepy, V&M has one of the more independent isos to me. Accusing them of being sheepy for reaching the same
conclusions
of other players seems like something that would only occur to a Farkran that is frustrated by a correctly identified townblock or delighting in teasing a slot for making the same misread the rest of the game is.
Sorry he missed my late night readslist.
Pops is definitely town, not touching that wagon with a ten foot pole.
Can you explain Town Pops a bit more?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:43 am
by Alchemist21
In post 1489, Farkran wrote:me, leaning towards town for emotionally tunneling me
Emotional tunnels are NAI for Nancy.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:44 am
by Alchemist21
I wish Shiro was around because I think I could read Shiro better than I can read Nancy.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:56 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 1513, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1489, Farkran wrote:me, leaning towards town for emotionally tunneling me
Emotional tunnels are NAI for Nancy.
Except I wasn’t making any.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 7:58 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 1514, Alchemist21 wrote:I wish Shiro was around because I think I could read Shiro better than I can read Nancy.
I’m more interested in hearing your read on Fakran and why you’re responding as if his claim of my making an emotional tunnel isn’t straight up bs.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:01 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 1511, Farkran wrote:Holy shit pops is scum.
Because he’s sr you?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:06 am
by Farkran
In post 1508, popsofctown wrote:
Farkran is scummy. He is doing a reliable job of mimicking his high level of analysis he has as town, but the analysis is seems low quality/wrong too often, in ways where it'd be okay if it happened once but over and over it seems like he's being forced to scumread town or townread scum or use the correct answer and work backwards.
Salamence pointed out Venus and Mars are sheeping less than Alchemist, but I would go way further and say nothing about V&M iso is particularly sheepy, V&M has one of the more independent isos to me. Accusing them of being sheepy for reaching the same
conclusions
of other players seems like something that would only occur to a Farkran that is frustrated by a correctly identified townblock or delighting in teasing a slot for making the same misread the rest of the game is.
Sorry he missed my late night readslist.
This does not make sense... v&m did not reach the same conclusions of other players, they're evidently being tunneled and reading others out of consensus bias. No way you would not notice that. Me and v&m is pretty clearly TvT from your pov.

Salamence, i think he's town but refuses to even try not taking something at face value, he
absolutely
needs to be removed before lylo because scum are never going to kill him. Same about V&M.

Kerset is still town and disaligned from pops, who is probably pocketing him then? Does it make sense for alchemist not to realize that? @alchemist why are you aligning pops and kerset for specifically the reason why you should disalign them?

Bitmap... pops has been SRing him the whole game but does not want to commit into voting him. Bitmap has been consistently pointing out scumtells from pops (even when there weren't any) so i think they're disaligned and that makes bitmap town?

Suji is probably independently town

Chemist might be associated to pops, too little content to determine.

Gamma, same as chemist, but i would guess pops' slight SR of her might be either distancing or maintaining a window of opportunity to lynch her later if he's town.

TL... is pretty much the same as bitmap in this scenario? Would TL hard-townread pops if they were scum together? I think not, i wouldn't expect that from scum!TL.

Severa... is town if scum!pops.

That leaves me with Evenstar, who makes sense in bussing position against pops when she's wagoned... and possibly {gamma, chemist}.

VOTE: pops

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:06 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 1512, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1510, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1508, popsofctown wrote:
Farkran is scummy. He is doing a reliable job of mimicking his high level of analysis he has as town, but the analysis is seems low quality/wrong too often, in ways where it'd be okay if it happened once but over and over it seems like he's being forced to scumread town or townread scum or use the correct answer and work backwards.
Salamence pointed out Venus and Mars are sheeping less than Alchemist, but I would go way further and say nothing about V&M iso is particularly sheepy, V&M has one of the more independent isos to me. Accusing them of being sheepy for reaching the same
conclusions
of other players seems like something that would only occur to a Farkran that is frustrated by a correctly identified townblock or delighting in teasing a slot for making the same misread the rest of the game is.
Sorry he missed my late night readslist.
Pops is definitely town, not touching that wagon with a ten foot pole.
Can you explain Town Pops a bit more?
Well Fakran has been peddling a lot of bs misinterpretations of what people are actually posting and I agree with this assessment.

But that wall that Salamence was kind enough to edit so it was readable, was plenty nuanced and genuinely sorting slots.

Extremely nuanced ISOs tend to come from town, because they’re not easy for scum to fake.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:07 am
by Farkran
In post 1513, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1489, Farkran wrote:me, leaning towards town for emotionally tunneling me
Emotional tunnels are NAI for Nancy.
Emotional tunnels are really hard to fake as scum. How can you be sure of this?

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:08 am
by Salamence20
In post 1516, Venus and Mars wrote:
In post 1514, Alchemist21 wrote:I wish Shiro was around because I think I could read Shiro better than I can read Nancy.
I’m more interested in hearing your read on Fakran and why you’re responding as if his claim of my making an emotional tunnel isn’t straight up bs.
Hes waiting for severa to show up then vote whichever is more opportunistic

P-Edit: Every post Farkran makes steels my read on him

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:10 am
by Farkran
@Salamence and V&M: will you stop taking everything you read at face value? Seriously. You're going to feel bad once this game is over. Read intent, not words.

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:10 am
by Salamence20
Salamence, i think he's town but refuses to even try not taking something at face value, he absolutely needs to be removed before lylo because scum are never going to kill him. Same about V&M.
HOW DARE YOU CALL ME A VI.

Also, lolno

P-Edit: Die

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2019 8:11 am
by Venus and Mars
In post 1520, Farkran wrote:
In post 1513, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 1489, Farkran wrote:me, leaning towards town for emotionally tunneling me
Emotional tunnels are NAI for Nancy.
Emotional tunnels are really hard to fake as scum. How can you be sure of this?
For the gazillionth time, I didn’t make a freaking emotional tunnel. I’m really getting annoyed with this continual misrepping.