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I thought I made it pretty clear that I was frustrated with koba's playstyle throughout interacting with them. It was probably mostly out of frustration, but I honestly felt that lynching them could improve people's eagerness to read the game. Or at least I think my vote served as a warning that such behavior makes playing mafia more difficult for everyone.

Pooky your read on DC makes sense, although it doesn't come across so strongly to me.

In post 1500, SleeperSoul wrote:I thought I made it pretty clear that I was frustrated with koba's playstyle throughout interacting with them. It was probably mostly out of frustration, but I honestly felt that lynching them could improve people's eagerness to read the game. Or at least I think my vote served as a warning that such behavior makes playing mafia more difficult for everyone.

I wouldn't take that if you hadn't added an additional justification to the vote

I feel ok with Wug/Al/Pooky I would need to be sold on Koba slot being scummy here. Sorry for the afk holidays and all that!

@Clover What do you like about Aldus?

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Clover Ebi (3):

SleeperSoul, PookyTheMagicalBear, Wug

PookyTheMagicalBear (2):

Alduskkel, Clover Ebi

Chemist1422 (1):

Klick

SleeperSoul (1):

Chemist1422

not voting (2):

DonCorleone, Deimos27

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In post 1503, SleeperSoul wrote:@Clover What do you like about Aldus?

No no, I'm saying that's who I would vote at the moment. Also I don't think I ever tried to slide onto the Co. I openly didn't want to be on it because of this exact reason that I was afraid of. Do you think both scum are on here or do you think I just made a gambit?

e g g

It's not Clover I don't think

Clover is never with anyone off-coa for obvious reasons
Klick/Clover doesn't happen for reasons I went over earlier
SS and Pooky are both pushing clover here and I don't think scum busses like that here

In post 1505, Clover Ebi wrote:

In post 1503, SleeperSoul wrote:@Clover What do you like about Aldus?

No no, I'm saying that's who I would vote at the moment.

Also I don't think I ever tried to slide onto the Co. I openly didn't want to be on it because of this exact reason that I was afraid of. Do you think both scum are on here or do you think I just made a gambit?

I don't think it's too unlikely that you could make a gambit because of the level of 'general disruption' this game has suffered.

In fact I've just worked out what exactly it is that's bothering me about the gamestate

A bunch of people asked me to towncase Clover, so I did. And then everyone basically ignored it (except for Koba, who just said they agreed). And now Clover's getting wagoned without any real reasons and without any engagement with my reasons for thinking he's town.

I'd like it if you went and looked at my thoughts on Clover in 1234, and gave your thoughts on the towncase there. I've convinced myself that Clover is the most likely player in the game to be town, and if you want to execute Clover then it'd be great if you could tell me why those thoughts aren't valid.

Particularly, if Clover is scum I don't think his play makes any sense in regards to trying to get into a coalition that doesn't lose him the game. UNLESS Clover is scum with someone else in the coalition who has been safe in the coalition for some time. In which case, it makes no sense to vote Clover first.

PEdit: I wanted to post this about an hour ago and it seems Clover and Chemist have already made different parts of my point for me

UNVOTE:
Chemist where have I gone wrong?
Not considering you I suppose I'm between Pooky and Sleeper. Sleeper has had a couple of moments where I've been a bit like wtf, but overall has a pretty towny tone. Whereas Pooky was pretty consistently meh pre-coalition but has looked really good from the start of today.

let me think about this more and get back to you

I think it's sleeper/wug or sleeper/aldus with an outside shot of sleeper/klick

I have DC and deimos as just town, clover as probably just town
I don't think sleeper/pooky both push on town!clover and just PoE themselves out unless their plan is literally just clover > me > klick which is bold

I'm actually having a hard time convincing myself Klick towncases clover like that as scum unless he's with exactly wug or aldus because again if his partner is also in the coalition he's just removing a chance to push Clover over his partner

Sleeper/Wug/Klick/Pooky/Aldus PoE

Sleeper/Wug
- klick towncase on clover(?)
- coordinated push on clover
Sleeper/Aldus
Wug/Klick
Wug/Pooky
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- klick towncase on clover(?)
Klick/Aldus
Pooky/Aldus

so 1 on 1 off
ok that helped, I think

In post 1234, Klick wrote:Look at the game climate at this point. I'm mildly advocating for Clover being in the coalition, some others have expressed very light townreads there but nothing too serious. Clover!scum's Master Play is to... remove himself from contention.

If clover was town - why would he remove himself from contention? the move doesn't really make sense from either POV

actually it might make sense if Clover is scum and his Scumbuddy is already firmly entrenched as a universal town-read - then it would make sense to spread the 2 scum players between on-off coalition just to decrease the chance of a lynch hitting scum after coalition fails

In post 1516, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:actually it might make sense if Clover is scum and his Scumbuddy is already firmly entrenched as a universal town-read - then it would make sense to spread the 2 scum players between on-off coalition just to decrease the chance of a lynch hitting scum after coalition fails

great, then who's that partner

SS or Klick tho Koba did seem to be firmly in control when Clover did that move

Why does SS start the push on Clover?
Why does Klick bother to towncase Clover and tie the two of them together so much?

I’m no longer sure if I want to lynch chemist

*execute, ffs

I agree that klick and clover are likely to be unaligned

In post 1484, Alduskkel wrote:i have trouble seeing DC as town partly because of the amount he's been going "I would do this this and this if I were scum, not this" and I'm just like ew

Why is this “ew”?

between SS bussing and Klick defending I think it makes more sense for SS to be bussing to set up a smooth endgame