Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

[lilith2013]

V OTECOUNT 2.038
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES		S TRENGTH	S PEED	K NOWLEDGE	P LAYER N AME
Gamma Emerald	None	EL-7	3	2	4	Gamma Emerald
SirCakez	None	EL-7	2	3	3	SirCakez
CreativeMod1	None	EL-7	3	3	3	CreativeMod1
Albert B. Rampage	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Albert B. Rampage
Chara	I Keep Siteflaking	EL-6	3	3	4	Chara
Bingle	PenguinPower, JohnnyFarrar, SirCakez, Fun and Games, Nosferatu	EL-2	3	3	3	Bingle
Nosferatu	None	EL-7	3	3	4	Nosferatu
I Keep Siteflaking	Gamma Emerald	EL-6	3	3	3	I Keep Siteflaking
PenguinPower	Bingle	EL-6	3	3	3	PenguinPower
Fun and Games	Albert B. Rampage, Noraa, CreativeMod1	EL-4	3	3	3	Fun and Games
Noraa	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Noraa
JohnnyFarrar	None	EL-7	3	3	3	JohnnyFarrar
Not Voting	Chara
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Deadline: (expired on 2020-10-14 12:10:00)
Notes: Please note the updated deadline. pagetops: Lilith 27 | penguin 15 | ABR 4 | johnnyf 3 | cm1 2 | gamma 2 | gb 1 | fun & games 2 | nosferatu 2 | bingle 1 | iks 1

[SirCakez]

how is ydrasse's iso even scummy

how is it not?

[Noraa]

no what I meant was instead of saying "lol" and discrediting my opinions straight up, explain why these aren't scum tells

Will be at a pc/not at work later this evening, so can give a real answer then.

The short answer is basically: i largely disagree with most of your assessments (like 'seems to think flashwagons are great'. When it's like 36 hours to deadline and everyone is lurking, like last night, flashwagons arent that bad imo given that we need a flip. It'a not something i agree with in general). And strongly disagre with 'overall scummy mindset' or 'eager scum vibes' which i dont think you've really elaborated upon either

Dont particularly object to flip-floppy, i am sometimes

Actually going thru the wall is gonna have to wait till tonight, sorry

"eager scum vibes" = way too present in the thread and every time ur present, I feel u don't move the game forward at all. I only see stubbornness and zero willingness to actually solve.

flash wagons are not ok with 36 hours left. 36 hours = plenty of time to discuss and actually get something out of a flip rather than rushing and gaining absolutely nothing.

u complain people are lurking. then engage them. put pressure on them. MAKE THEM TALK. sometimes there aint no shortcut. U tell the mod to prod them enough times and they'll get replaced or start engaging u.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Damn somebody else made a F&G happen. I'm gonna feel like the smartest kid in Utah when they flip red

VOTE: Fungee

[Fun and Games]

"eager scum vibes" = way too present in the thread and every time ur present, I feel u don't move the game forward at all. I only see stubbornness and zero willingness to actually solve.

flash wagons are not ok with 36 hours left. 36 hours = plenty of time to discuss and actually get something out of a flip rather than rushing and gaining absolutely nothing.

u complain people are lurking. then engage them. put pressure on them. MAKE THEM TALK. sometimes there aint no shortcut. U tell the mod to prod them enough times and they'll get replaced or start engaging u.

a) um, no. i haven't been that active in the thread that much at all. last night, yes. overall, no. jingle even called me out on being lurkish like last week. i also *strongly* disagree that i'm not moving the game forward
b) not in a game where everyone's lurking and there's often a grand total of one page of posts each day? look at the number of posts made between when i was posting on sunday night and when i started posting last night, when there was <2 days left. there was i think like one page of posts, and even abr rushing in and decalaring an imminent 8 hour deadline didn't spark activity.
c) tried multiple times to engage the lurking people ... if they don't respond there's not much i can do at that point. also multiple people have been replaced and it hasn't necessarily helped with acticity, see chara/pine slot
also, i got *you* to talk by threatening a deadline flashwagon last night. kinda silly to complain that i'm not trying to get the lurkers to talk when i'm p much responsible for your recent burst of activity, no?

[Fun and Games]

Also let's note that p much everyone in my elim pool minus bingle is currently voting me

[Fun and Games]

So, skitter. Gonna share with me why the townread on Cakez?

a) i feel like you're trying to get me to scumread him (or, more precisely, that you're trying to divert me off of you and onto him while simultaneously pushing an icky omgus penguin vote)

b) attempting to solve the game, and i think he's approaching things from a +town perspective. i think the things you're nitpicking on are even in bad-faith or nai

[Noraa]

You had a TR on Bingle. Then everyone flipped on Bingle. Then you lurked for a huge portion of them arguing about Bingle and when you come back, its to say you have moved to the Bingle wagon. Is that not scummy. Ur not THAT present in the thread but its clear as hell that ur "present" just not talking. Ur lurking.

[Nosferatu]

how is ydrasse's iso even scummy

its so turkey that I dislike.

dont feel like whiteknighting so im not even gonna engage with this

[Noraa]

how is ydrasse's iso even scummy

its so turkey that I dislike.

dont feel like whiteknighting so im not even gonna engage with this

u couldn't even be kind enough to edit the "t" out so I don't look stupid?
-kindness points for you

[lilith2013]

Gamma Emerald has been prodded.

Now searching for a replacement for Chara.

[Nosferatu]

honestly its the e for me

[Nosferatu]

how is ydrasse's iso even scummy

how is it not?

the response to the initial wagon was pretty townie

yall should've just sheeped me when i called her town given that i started the wagon in the first place but its w/e

[Noraa]

how is ydrasse's iso even scummy

how is it not?

the response to the initial wagon was pretty townie

yall should've just sheeped me when i called her town given that i started the wagon in the first place but its w/e

and how tf do you know my slot is town? why are you so confident im town? Only scum should be that confident im town rn. so what if my slot claimed a pr? scum would do it too.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'll do things soon hopefully
why did Chara rep out

[JohnnyFarrar]

This isn't the only game they dropped so hopefully everything is ok.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Also gamma we have 18 hours

[PenguinPower]

Like uhh as far as ik these are two slots that have claimed. y tf r u pushing there?

so what if my slot claimed a pr? scum would do it too.

[SirCakez]

Gamma Emerald has been prodded.

Now searching for a replacement for Chara.

not a good look for the Chara/Pine slot

how is ydrasse's iso even scummy

how is it not?

the response to the initial wagon was pretty townie

yall should've just sheeped me when i called her town given that i started the wagon in the first place but its w/e

yeah but today Ydrasse has been completely useless

[Noraa]

Like uhh as far as ik these are two slots that have claimed. y tf r u pushing there?

so what if my slot claimed a pr? scum would do it too.

good try but no.

rn when there are slots that claimed pr, they should be off the limpools bc 2/3 scums will not claim pr day 1-2 so that means even if one of them was scum, we still have 2 scum left to catch. Especially since ABR is provable.

My slot claimed pr does not equal I am town. It could be a town lean or a TR but never conftown.

These two statements do not contradict each other.

[PenguinPower]

So you did ignore my response. Cool.

[Fun and Games]

Fun and games is a hydra I take it. I've never played with anyone called skitter so I cannot tell but this hyperposting sure makes me think excited scum. It also feels like you kinda go around and sus everyone besides ur few TRs. Too much confidence feels scummy to me personally.

a) hyperposting is nai for me, ask jingle or penguin. kinda baffled how you're getting to 'excited scum' from hyperposting. didn't sircakez indicate that you also hyperpost? are you scum each time?

b) i've repeatedly said that i have like 5 or so townreads, and that i find the rest of the game either scummy or null. not sure what the issue is with that, and given that a lot of the scummy/null slots aren't posting, there's not much i can necessasrily do about it either

Fun and games ur TR on bingle sure was paper thin once other people started jumping on bingle eh?

he started posting badly, and he can definitely post things in non-badfaith ways when he's town

Fun and games ur TR on bingle sure was paper thin once other people started jumping on bingle eh?

my wagon at least was semi-viable ...

[PenguinPower]

rn when there are slots that claimed pr, they should be off the limpools bc 2/3 scums will not claim pr day 1-2 so that means even if one of them was scum, we still have 2 scum left to catch.

I mean that's not even true in a theme game where everyone has a career.

lol.

[Fun and Games]

You had a TR on Bingle. Then everyone flipped on Bingle. Then you lurked for a huge portion of them arguing about Bingle and when you come back, its to say you have moved to the Bingle wagon. Is that not scummy. Ur not THAT present in the thread but its clear as hell that ur "present" just not talking. Ur lurking.

this is a ridiculously bad-faith-y way of representing what happened while ignoring the context of what prompted the change to the bingle wagon (namely, that he posted scummy in ways on uncharacteristic of townhim)

also i was vla for the weekend, i said i would be last week even ...

[Fun and Games]

noraa you made a big stink about me not fully responding to you but aren't really responding to my responses ...