Townstumps Mafia (Endgame)

Moongrass · Post Post #1500 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:35 am

In post 1496, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Also Moon, do you feel genuinely aggressive IRL whenever someone justs asks you questions about what you say? Surely that can’t be healthy.

Sure, make it personal. This says a lot more about you than me.

nomnomnom · Post Post #1501 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:37 am

In post 1497, Moongrass wrote:The house and cyrus votes are towny because they are contrary to what's dominating the thread, which shows me that Gamma is playing his own game, supporting much of what I read in his ISO. The fact that he has been voting solo when I think scum are involved in the two main wagons also reads as a non agenda. Contrary to house, gamma is making reads and asking questions objectively. Contrary to house he didn't try to find a way onto a main wagon as soon as you OK'd an elim.

How good at mafia is your ex-friend?

Moongrass · Post Post #1502 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:41 am

Not a clue, I think a lot of what house has done here can be from either alignment but I'm leaning scum on his behavior around players under pressure in the thread.

Do you think what house has done here would be hard for scum to achieve?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1503 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:43 am

In post 1344, cyrus62 wrote:
In post 1343, jjh927 wrote:
In post 1340, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don’t really see anything scummy about Cyrus’s play here.
Single question

Do you think he has really made an effort to place me and believes the arguments he is making?
could you do less crying and more scum hunting gee . its day 1 ofc i havent done much with you thire is no meat to your content all you do is cry meta or state the stump is on my side. as i told you i wanted a reaction i also stated , that i could be completely wrong about you since your the only one to defend your self.

what do you call what jjh was doing before you started pushing him?

nomnomnom · Post Post #1504 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:43 am

In post 1502, Moongrass wrote:Not a clue, I think a lot of what house has done here can be from either alignment but I'm leaning scum on his behavior around players under pressure in the thread.

Do you think what house has done here would be hard for scum to achieve?

Uuuh what that in response to me?

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #1505 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:43 am

You’re an character Moongrass.

Moongrass · Post Post #1506 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:45 am

In post 1504, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1502, Moongrass wrote:Not a clue, I think a lot of what house has done here can be from either alignment but I'm leaning scum on his behavior around players under pressure in the thread.

Do you think what house has done here would be hard for scum to achieve?
Uuuh what that in response to me?

Yes, I'm interested to know what your thoughts are on other players.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1507 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:46 am

In post 1360, Moongrass wrote:Wow. It's like that then.

In post 1361, Moongrass wrote:The gloves are out sir and neither one is named mercy.

In post 1362, Moongrass wrote:Btw I'm down to hammer, just when I'm ready. But you can fall all the way back down for pulling that shade on me.

that's just how House plays. He is very mercurial about his reads, in my experience.

nomnomnom · Post Post #1508 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:46 am

In post 1506, Moongrass wrote:
In post 1504, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1502, Moongrass wrote:Not a clue, I think a lot of what house has done here can be from either alignment but I'm leaning scum on his behavior around players under pressure in the thread.

Do you think what house has done here would be hard for scum to achieve?
Uuuh what that in response to me?
Yes, I'm interested to know what your thoughts are on other players.

I'm a bit confused is your answer to "how good at mafia is your ex-friend" -> "I don't know"?
My brain bugged out when reading your post lol

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1509 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:47 am

In post 1369, House wrote:This is awesome!

Thanks for reinforcing my read.

As long as you felt like you were snowing me, I was town. Anyone who reads our interactions will see that.

yeah, moongrass seems to be altering reads at convenience rather than displaying a real progression
VOTE: moongrass

Moongrass · Post Post #1510 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:49 am

This is the only game I've ever played with house in it. Ive liked playing with house so I'm disappointed if he is scum, it's a dig at the betrayal. I guess this wasn't about other players hahaha.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1511 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:50 am

In post 1380, House wrote:Moon's behavior since the E-1 vote reeks of scum scrambling to save a buddy.

I can see it

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1512 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:51 am

In post 1510, Moongrass wrote:This is the only game I've ever played with house in it. Ive liked playing with house so I'm disappointed if he is scum, it's a dig at the betrayal. I guess this wasn't about other players hahaha.

why was it a "betrayal"?

Moongrass · Post Post #1513 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:52 am

House also said I jumped off NK because he would flip town. Gamma, you're picking a choosing house's posts to confirm your bad read.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1514 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:53 am

In post 1391, nomnomnom wrote:Well you can either complain about me posting about you and NK, or you can answer my question about your sudden change of heart towards Gamma. How about that?

In post 1392, Moongrass wrote:Go buzz someone else.

why the prickly reaction to someone else asking about your read on me, but you gave me an answer without hesitation?

Moongrass · Post Post #1515 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:53 am

In post 1512, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1510, Moongrass wrote:This is the only game I've ever played with house in it. Ive liked playing with house so I'm disappointed if he is scum, it's a dig at the betrayal. I guess this wasn't about other players hahaha.
why was it a "betrayal"?

Because I trusted him when he said he was town. I like to be dramatic, sue me.

NorwegianboyEE · Post Post #1516 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:53 am

I can see some potential townie tone from their contempt, but they also insist they have no difference between their town or scum play which makes me not want to bother to meta them to see if they are different as either allignment.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1517 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:54 am

In post 1513, Moongrass wrote:House also said I jumped off NK because he would flip town. Gamma, you're picking a choosing house's posts to confirm your bad read.

Okay, that's on him for giving two contradictory statements. I didn't say I felt he was right about that part, did I?

nomnomnom · Post Post #1518 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:54 am

With how this conversation is going I'll never know about this mysterious ex-friend!
So much for mafia being a social experience

Moongrass · Post Post #1519 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:55 am

In post 1514, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1391, nomnomnom wrote:Well you can either complain about me posting about you and NK, or you can answer my question about your sudden change of heart towards Gamma. How about that?

In post 1392, Moongrass wrote:Go buzz someone else.
why the prickly reaction to someone else asking about your read on me, but you gave me an answer without hesitation?

Because I think nom is scum and I don't like talking to people who throw everything I say back in my face to confirm a bad read.

Moongrass · Post Post #1520 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:59 am

In post 1517, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1513, Moongrass wrote:House also said I jumped off NK because he would flip town. Gamma, you're picking a choosing house's posts to confirm your bad read.
Okay, that's on him for giving two contradictory statements. I didn't say I felt he was right about that part, did I?

No and that's why I'm saying you're picking which one to agree with in a biased way. It's like if I gave evidence for someone being both innocent and guilty and then the jury picked which one to choose rather than see the evidence is from an unreliable source.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1521 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:01 am

In post 1404, nomnomnom wrote:Okay, so I go in your ISO and I see this:
In post 661, Moongrass wrote:
In post 634, Titus wrote:
In post 611, House wrote:
In post 610, jjh927 wrote:I am the opposite

Gamma looks very much town
Yeah. A lot of people equivocation activity with town and he flew in and popped out a lot of posts at one time... without actually giving us anything to chew on.

There's no meat on all those bones.
While I disagree with House's assessment, I think both he and gamma are town.
Same.

In post 1173, Moongrass wrote:I'm thinking it's nom^3/gamma/NK15.

In post 1194, Moongrass wrote:Why am I not surprised by the NK vote? Gamma next right.

In post 1276, Moongrass wrote:
In post 1273, Titus wrote:
In post 1271, Moongrass wrote:Titus could you talk more about your townread on Gamma?
It's a tonal townread mostly. He doesn't seem to back down when pushed or FoSed. He's clear and understandable too.
I'm seeing what you're seeing but not sure how being calm and clear comes exclusively from town Gamma.

In post 1279, Moongrass wrote:Do you think Gamma is town house?

In post 1282, Moongrass wrote:I think he's town actually. I'm going to find it hard to sort nom, NK read doesn't change.
To me there's like massive leaps of logic in there.
The only thing in your ISO I can see that could have changed your initial gamma TR to a SR when you posted your solve is you insisting that Gamma answers a question of yours and him not doing so, but I don't like making assumptions because that was never clarified. Which is why I asked you back then to clarify that read. And also why I am asking you to clarify it now.

Looking at these posts and thinking about how moongrass described their read on me, I kinda think moongrass/titus could be teamed, and titus tried to get moongrass to pocket me rather than push me?

nomnomnom · Post Post #1522 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:03 am

In post 1519, Moongrass wrote:Because I think nom is scum

You think I'm scum?

Mia and Maya Fey · Post Post #1523 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:06 am

In post 1415, Mia and Maya Fey wrote:https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... &start=200

I was trying to find some Moon scumgames but there aren’t any, so I’m linking their iso from GS, which was extremely painful to read - even after all this time.

Especially the part about milk. :/

I’m disappointed that no one has commented on this s far. @Titus what do you think?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1524 (ISO) » Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:07 am

In post 1520, Moongrass wrote:
In post 1517, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1513, Moongrass wrote:House also said I jumped off NK because he would flip town. Gamma, you're picking a choosing house's posts to confirm your bad read.
Okay, that's on him for giving two contradictory statements. I didn't say I felt he was right about that part, did I?
No and that's why I'm saying you're picking which one to agree with in a biased way. It's like if I gave evidence for someone being both innocent and guilty and then the jury picked which one to choose rather than see the evidence is from an unreliable source.

As I see it, a viable explanation for House's two thought processes was that he was undecided on which one made more sense. And I don't see how this equates to the example you gave. Both conclusions he gave point to you being scum, they just sort NK15 differently