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In post 1484, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1480, fireisredsir wrote:what makes it not going after andante, then?

Me saying to go after other people

This feels like a discussion of definition, which is likely not useful at all.

Fire seems to be using "pushing" to mean "applying pressure, interrogating"

And Dunn is using "pushing" to mean "pushing to be killed"

You sure are questioning Andante in a way that I feel is scummy

I'm not saying Andante should die this phase.

**continues talking past one another**

In post 1501, Lukewarm wrote:I'm not saying Andante should die this phase.

I agree!! Andante should not die!

I am really not a fan that both of your (andante) last two posts heavily cropped down quotes to misrep the original.

In post 1503, Lukewarm wrote:I am really not a fan

ooof that’s sad

In post 1439, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1437, Lukewarm wrote:

In post 1430, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1426, Lukewarm wrote:So trying to piece together why you would be suspicious of mala, and suspicious of me, but want to add Bell into that pair.

I don't think that you and Mala are both mafia. I'm not going to want to kill you if Mala is mafia

If you are suspicious of us both, what makes you think we couldn't be partnered?

Because Mala was scrambling to pair with you and you never looked for another partner

Well that’s a misrep, a big one at that.

Please post where I “scrambled”. I didn’t have offers from either you or Noraa in regards to a dancing partner. I could have accepted it right away from Luke, but I waited because I wanted to see how you vs Noraa was going to play out. I will admit I early townread you in the beginning of the game because you were pretty active and the old meta tells I had off of you is that scum-you tends to lurk. However, we have played enough in the past for me to admit that I just can’t read you and I wanted to start heavily relying on those who can. Noraa was making a great case and if I had a choice to pick between you vs nora yesterday I would have picked Nora and let you flip.

Now that Nora slot flipped town I’m really heavily thinking that you have a good shot at being scum. Granted yes, we are all humans and we can be wrong.

I also would have loved for Nora to give me an invite, but Ze didn’t.

I probably would have never accepted your proposal had it been given.

Actually I was mistaken:
you proposed to me prior before you did to Datisi.

it was the Fire/Noraa slot that never proposed to me.

So I could have easily accepted yours way before you say i was “scrambling” to pick

In post 1380, Enchant wrote:Understandble, Luke paired with Scum.

Pray tell.

In post 1381, Cephrir wrote:I think I probably agree that Bell should be kept in virtually any scenario, but I'll explore that thought more later.

I agree. Bell superbly transparently town in this game. Unless somehow he decided he wants to RECK the whole entire game with some new & breakthrough scum meta, but i doubt it.

In post 1385, Dunnstral wrote:Do you have a read on me?

This feels gross.

In post 1387, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 1364, Malakittens wrote:ngl

i rather bell either pair with dati or prism

In post 1368, Malakittens wrote:as for andante:

There's one main reason why I chose Luke. I initially had picked Luke over Dunn & Norraa, but because I didn't bold it I messed up, which was my bad.

Second: I never had an offer to dance from either Norraa or Fire.

Third: The one who was supposed to choose beteween Norraa & Dunn was Datisi.

Fourth: An Norraa flip would have been informational to sorting out Dunn IMO. As scummy as that sounds

In post 1369, Malakittens wrote:

In post 1362, Lukewarm wrote:Hmmm. Is it too suicidal of a play for scum!Dunn to sign off on this kill?

WIFOM

Malakittens, why are you reading me as mafia this day phase? Is this different from the stance you had yesterday in posts like 879, or is this the same stance?

So I was back and forth on you during D1. Early game I had a town ping on you because of your posting, but then it faded away when i found out it’s probably NAI because it’s a dance game and you post a lot during dance games regardless of your alignment. I also regret not believing Nora in control earlier when Ze scumread you. Noraa was very confident that you are prob scum here.

As for my last quote with Luke. It was me being a jokester, but I really do think you should be flipped next because you have a high slot of being scum this game.

In post 1392, Andante wrote:Why is Bell automatically town for the ydra kill? ydra was universal TR, it makes no sense to kill elsewhere, she's good at making reads too, like, if I was scum and her partner, I'd kill her... althought I thought Prism was looking super towny... so I kinda think prism scum

This is disgusting.

In post 1400, Andante wrote:

In post 1396, Bell wrote:First I’m hearing you think prism isn’t town.

I have a lot of thoughts, and the fact ydra was killed over prism was a bit sus to me cause I thought prism looked very towny and is someone I'd fearkill... not sure why this is a hard thought to believe?

What. IMO prism was not the player I townread the most during D1. As I had two others who i felt were townier than Prism. You, actually, being one of them.

In post 1402, Andante wrote:or take mala from luke lol cause luke is still maf

Didn’t you just say I was mafia like a few posts ago? Wouldn;t you rather have bell take me from Luke in order to flip me

I’m so confused.

In post 1405, Andante wrote:I *might* be wrong on Prism though, cause like Ydra kill does make sense.. but Prism's lack of concern of me being maf is kinda, ehhh idk!! like there hasn't been any doubt of "I think I paired with maf"

In post 1414, Andante wrote:I told yall I thought that pairing was sus!!!! It could just be Mala + Luke for scum... cause I agree with Mala not towny

Dunn likely town

can you explain?

In post 1441, Bell wrote:Ah yes, cephrir the towniest person to match with.

I’m kinda null on Cephrir right now

I wouldn’t be upset if Cephrir/Fire gets flipped after this Day. I also wouldn’t be shocked if this ends up being a scum/scum pair tbh

*yawn*

Bell did you choose someone or nah.

This is a mafia game I might read at some point

In post 1459, Bell wrote:Nothing to say about Andante twisting themselves into a pretzel?

might as well use this as my space to comment

i dont necessarily have a problem with andante for scumreading fire but her reasons are ?? almost a parody of herself the way she dug up 3 posts from page 5 and acted like that wshould be enough to satisfy dunn

In post 1472, fireisredsir wrote:no, ive just seen him around a bit and liked his vibes. i was also curious to see how he would respond to me basically requesting a dance before he had even posted. jury is still out on whether i feel like i was able to sort him at all based on his response

our dance has been pretty boring so far though tbh ):

im sry for being so lame

u have nice vibes too tho

In post 1490, mykonian wrote:

In post 1487, Bell wrote:Not sure how I feel about the no meta investigation on cephrir.

heh.

I remember thinking of cephrir that he was an (active) lurker in games as either allignment. So it's worrying that he's got twice my posts and a pleasant surprise that there went some effort and thought into some of his posts. I agree with many of them, so it "feels" good. No clue whether they are town or scum.

i dont know if i can remember the last time someone's meta frame of reference for me was THIS old. i was a serial lurker in like, 2009 yeah

In post 1494, Lukewarm wrote:~Openly avoiding discussion of ongoing games. ~

this is still flirting with the rules pls don't do it

since bell will probably do the opposite of whatever i tell him i'll suggest he pair with me! when people talk about our bad romance bad will actually mean bad

Aight, will buckle down and catch up in about 30 minutes

I'm basically just going to throw all my reads in the trash and start over. I'm also sick of meta spitballing so I'm going to just play like it's a table full of people I have never seen once in my life and return to fundamentals.

Both replace outs have been pretty shit and I am judging.

Just play the fucking game.

I don't know what happened but since they've replaced out I'll reveal that I was pushing a scum team of enchant + mala + prism in my neighborhood and only kept quiet about prism to see if they would continue to push me/luke if left unprompted today

Something that is no longer possible. Yeah, I think it's possible for Prism to be mafia here and for them to have made that kill on Ydrasse. I think that looking at Enchant/Malakittens iso you can see they've only ever responded to Prism but never directly engaged with them, except for malakittens just now in post 1508 took initiative to talk about prism for the first time this game.

I don't find malakitten's recent posts convincing. They argued that they weren't scrambling because Noraa didn't send them an invite. If they really cared and wanted to dance with them, they'd just ask them to send an invite, not throw up their hands and accept someone else. This is just an excuse.

And that I don't think Luke would be aligned with either Mala or Prism

With that being said according to 1518 it doesn't look like Prism was going to continue with their push, so I don't know.

In post 1386, Enchant wrote:Unless you want to read "No", i need take time to read game.

In post 1483, Enchant wrote:

In post 1454, Bell wrote:I thought about grabbing enchant and then leaving with Myko, but I think that was just my inner troll.

But i refuse you tbh.

In post 1510, Enchant wrote:*yawn*

Bell did you choose someone or nah.

I think that Bell should choose to kill Enchant as of now, or threaten to do so in order to make Enchant more readable (in which it will become more clear that they are mafia)

In post 1520, mykonian wrote:Both replace outs have been pretty shit and I am judging.

Just play the fucking game.

Given limited information. it is impossible to judge people fairly in this matter.
Bad take.