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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:30 am
by BlueBloodedToffee
35 hours is not a lot of time considering there are 10 people to act/post/vote cohesively.

What ends up happening is a ridiculous flash wagon and then town end up losing for taking so damn long on every single elim.

You don't need to take up every second of every Day.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:30 am
by Corwinoid
Gibus is an excellent sorting hat though.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:30 am
by Crescent
In post 1497, Corwinoid wrote:Jesus Christ Alex, NM is not the elim today. Why are so many of you hell bent on being grossly anti-town over this? Put your damn emotions aside for a minute and look at it rationally.
Yep.

As emotional as I may get at times, I never vote with emotion. Voting with emotion is poison to town.


So I have a question for you.

You said last night you had your own argument against Elsa. This never materialized today and you directly followed her onto Gibus yesterday.

What is your thought process?

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:33 am
by Corwinoid
I don't have time for that today, and I'm exhausted from a failed skating trip last night so I'm going to pass out after work. If I get to it Today it'll only be with a few hours left. But a lot depends on the night tonight also.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:36 am
by Crescent
Alex why did you vote NM, say you wanted to vote BBT (your previous vote), then vote Elsa?

Is #1499 just it?

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:37 am
by Crescent
In post 1503, Corwinoid wrote:I don't have time for that today, and I'm exhausted from a failed skating trip last night so I'm going to pass out after work. If I get to it Today it'll only be with a few hours left. But a lot depends on the night tonight also.
Why did you follow her onto Gibus, then?

You recently called Gibus a "sorting hat". What do you think he sorts?

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:44 am
by Crescent
In post 1427, Alexcellent wrote:Elsa, do you feel Toffee is town?

P-edit: I’ve had the vibe she’s sitting back and waiting for other people to make wagons for her since very early and I haven’t forgotten her defensive OMGUS reaction to me voting her D1. But I’m still mixed there, think there are more suitable launches today.
Ok I do have a better question because I just figured out the little thing that was nagging at me.

In #1927 you said you saw the case was there, but thought there were better people to vote off.

In #1481, you list her as one of three people you'd vote off.

What changed to put her on that list?

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:44 am
by Vivax
The ghastly gibus is a tf2 halloween hat, not the harry potter one.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:46 am
by Corwinoid
In post 1505, Crescent wrote:
In post 1503, Corwinoid wrote:I don't have time for that today, and I'm exhausted from a failed skating trip last night so I'm going to pass out after work. If I get to it Today it'll only be with a few hours left. But a lot depends on the night tonight also.
Why did you follow her onto Gibus, then?

You recently called Gibus a "sorting hat". What do you think he sorts?
I didn't follow her anywhere, BBT is paying dearly for this vote, he just doesn't know it yet. It sorts my red blooded toffees from my blue blooded toffees.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:48 am
by Elsa Jay
It would only be considered following if he specifically mentioned that. We just... Happened to want to eat at the same restaurant.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:49 am
by Alexcellent
Indecision. But also I'm not keen on either Vivax or Gibus launches at the moment. BBT isn't being launched today and it appears neither is NM. Elsa is the compromise.


Here's the thing, like BBT said, 35 hours isn't a long time. I either have to compromise and join a wagon I'm not comfortable with, or vote someone I think is more likely to flip scum and hope some of you lovely people join me.
I'd prefer not to just sweep NM under the rug every day. If we're agreeing on a policy elim now is the time to do it, but I don't think that's happening.

p-edit: nothing changed really, I would prefer an NM or BBT launch over Elsa still, I think.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:50 am
by Alexcellent
In post 1501, Corwinoid wrote:Gibus is an excellent sorting hat though.
I think Vivax is a better sorting hat

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:51 am
by Umlaut
Vote Count 2.5
Image


gibus (3):
BlueBloodedToffee, Elsa Jay, Corwinoid
Vivax (2):
Not_Mafia, geraintm
BlueBloodedToffee (1):
gibus
Crescent (1):
Vivax
Elsa Jay (1):
Alexcellent

Not voting (2):
Crescent, Eiralox

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to launch.

Deadline:
(expired on 2022-06-21 06:15:00)

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:52 am
by Crescent
In post 1508, Corwinoid wrote:
In post 1505, Crescent wrote:
In post 1503, Corwinoid wrote:I don't have time for that today, and I'm exhausted from a failed skating trip last night so I'm going to pass out after work. If I get to it Today it'll only be with a few hours left. But a lot depends on the night tonight also.
Why did you follow her onto Gibus, then?

You recently called Gibus a "sorting hat". What do you think he sorts?
I didn't follow her anywhere, BBT is paying dearly for this vote, he just doesn't know it yet. It sorts my red blooded toffees from my blue blooded toffees.
Uh

Do you actually think Gibus is scum? This motive points only to trying to figure out BBT's alignment

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:52 am
by Corwinoid
In post 1509, Elsa Jay wrote:It would only be considered following if he specifically mentioned that. We just... Happened to want to eat at the same restaurant.
Since we're both here, care to share a table?

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:55 am
by Elsa Jay
I mean, as long as it doesn't end in my untimely demise Corwin. Italian or Hispanic cuisine?

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:55 am
by Corwinoid
In post 1513, Crescent wrote:
In post 1508, Corwinoid wrote:
In post 1505, Crescent wrote:
In post 1503, Corwinoid wrote:I don't have time for that today, and I'm exhausted from a failed skating trip last night so I'm going to pass out after work. If I get to it Today it'll only be with a few hours left. But a lot depends on the night tonight also.
Why did you follow her onto Gibus, then?

You recently called Gibus a "sorting hat". What do you think he sorts?
I didn't follow her anywhere, BBT is paying dearly for this vote, he just doesn't know it yet. It sorts my red blooded toffees from my blue blooded toffees.
Uh

Do you actually think Gibus is scum? This motive points only to trying to figure out BBT's alignment
He's in my pool, but he's not one of my top choices. I am... begrudgingly satisfied with it, and I think it useful for solving long term in how it's shaping up. I would be pleased if he flips red, but I'm not like super gung ho that I'd bet my life on him flipping red.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:56 am
by Corwinoid
In post 1515, Elsa Jay wrote:I mean, as long as it doesn't end in my untimely demise Corwin. Italian or Hispanic cuisine?
Are those my only choices? Hispanic I suppose, I like spicy.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:57 am
by Alexcellent
Is Vivax still your main scum read?

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:58 am
by Eiralox
drink and oreo kfc krusher lel lel.

VOTE: Vivax for now just cos. haven't done re-read, don't think i will tonight. so do i suggest vivax launch? not yet.

WHy do I still find elsa scummy? elsa's ardent defense of george should be green af. so..... eh. idk. clidd stayed on owen d1, elsa stayed on owen. safer for scum to stay on owen and corwin than move to george? which again stresses the importance of knowing: did owen hammer away from scum? if owen was wise... if, then no more than one scum was one george, pure speculation tho.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:59 am
by Crescent
In post 1510, Alexcellent wrote:Indecision. But also I'm not keen on either Vivax or Gibus launches at the moment. BBT isn't being launched today and it appears neither is NM. Elsa is the compromise.


Here's the thing, like BBT said, 35 hours isn't a long time. I either have to compromise and join a wagon I'm not comfortable with, or vote someone I think is more likely to flip scum and hope some of you lovely people join me.
I'd prefer not to just sweep NM under the rug every day. If we're agreeing on a policy elim now is the time to do it, but I don't think that's happening.

p-edit: nothing changed really, I would prefer an NM or BBT launch over Elsa still, I think.
NM is tomorrow's policy elim if he doesn't get shot tonight, I think. I don't think it should go the full 7 days, either. Just policy him out after like, two days, so the game doesn't stagnate waiting to kill him.

Honestly though, this post super gives me vibes to how I saw George as the "compromise" yesterday since Corwin didn't seem to have the oomph required and it was obvious George, who also had scum equity, did. I can see the same thought process in your distinction of BBT and Elsa in this post.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:02 am
by Crescent
In post 1519, Eiralox wrote:drink and oreo kfc krusher lel lel.

VOTE: Vivax for now just cos. haven't done re-read, don't think i will tonight. so do i suggest vivax launch? not yet.

WHy do I still find elsa scummy? elsa's ardent defense of george should be green af. so..... eh. idk. clidd stayed on owen d1, elsa stayed on owen. safer for scum to stay on owen and corwin than move to george? which again stresses the importance of knowing: did owen hammer away from scum? if owen was wise... if, then no more than one scum was one george, pure speculation tho.
I distinctly remember saying at 6 votes back on day 1 that I believed George had 1 scum max and a decent probability of the train simply being pure.

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:04 am
by Eiralox
memory and attention are fleeting things, the mind wanders where it wants

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:04 am
by Eiralox
imma be a dwarf for the night bai

Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2022 6:08 am
by Corwinoid
In post 1518, Alexcellent wrote:Is Vivax still your main scum read?
Honestly I'm not sure. With so many people reading that TvT I have to get out of that tunnel, it's not helpful if I'm wrong.

I think the game, from its current state, can take a lot of branches. He's pretty high on one of those branches.