D3, I said Dann died for his reads and he was obviously right on Bell but does scum throw scum!Roden into the test d4 or is he probably just a red herring?
GuiltyLion: my first tr of the game, very much like they were in our previous games, just overall a gut and soul read
Loki: feeling good about this slot, their solving is logical (like how they are doing it in the thread), I like the effort to look into Vivax old game. In p#602
Greetign: weakest of the three, I feel like her emotions have been genuine. Dunno how to feel about the buddying
Kitty: weakest of them all, a town lean, their tone is genuine and maybe im weak to it.
Scummy vibes:
Dann: I feel like they kinda fell off since the beginning (I know I'm being a hypocrite)
Ari: I dunno how to feel about them trying to buddy everyone and her post have been agenda driven
Vivax: his tone and what not is not what I'm used to. He doesn't feel towny because he's missing his trademark tinfoil. I am sus of him VOTE: vivax
Kuti’s read on Greeting isn’t extremely different from Kitty.
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 1:07 pm
by Loki Dokie
Post Post #1212 (isolation #3) » Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:35 pm
In post 1149, Aristeia wrote:
i think Bell/Dann are S/S and this game is basically over
I have bad news.
~ Bell
So Bell was actually telling the truth here, he just meant that Ari was wrong on Dann not him.
fire, if you read the scumgame it may explain some things.
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 1:50 pm
by fireisredsir
i was in the scumgame. what about it?
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:04 pm
by Radical Rat
[quote="In post 1462
Rat who do you think is scum that's not in the test right now?[/quote]
Updated answer: Aristeia
In post 1472, Aristeia wrote:I kind of want to see if Radical Rat will really vote for Vulture
In post 1474, Aristeia wrote:it kind of almost feels like RR is in the same position Bell was in on D1
This is bait, and it's coming from scum. Not for scumreading me, but for trying to goad me into specific actions under the threat of scumreading me.
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:13 pm
by fireisredsir
i don't think there's a threat there at all tho? can you explain what you mean by that? what is she trying to goad you into doing?
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:24 pm
by Aristeia
I don't think I'm threatening to scumread you. I'm just scumreading you and wondering what your plan is today.
Is there someone you think I should be scumreading instead?
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:29 pm
by Radical Rat
The "I kind of want to see if Radical Rat will really vote for Vulture" is accusing me of being Vulture's partner, and daring me to vote them anyway, implying that she doesn't think I'll do it, and refusing to do so will make me look worse.
Oh well I thought it might explain some things about the tests but maybe not.
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:38 pm
by fireisredsir
In post 1508, Radical Rat wrote:The "I kind of want to see if Radical Rat will really vote for Vulture" is accusing me of being Vulture's partner, and daring me to vote them anyway, implying that she doesn't think I'll do it, and refusing to do so will make me look worse.
Oh well I thought it might explain some things about the tests but maybe not.
no i don't think vulture is very relevant to what i was talking about
In post 1495, fireisredsir wrote:i will say i am a little confused at some minor points around which town scum choose for the tests so far (mostly the previous two days?) and it feels fairly suboptimal and that always worries me a little bit
but we can talk about those thoughts tomorrow if necessary, hopefully we can just get it right today and not worry about it
Oh what did you mean then? but if you feel it would be better to not discuss until then fine, I guess.
In post 1508, Radical Rat wrote:The "I kind of want to see if Radical Rat will really vote for Vulture" is accusing me of being Vulture's partner, and daring me to vote them anyway, implying that she doesn't think I'll do it, and refusing to do so will make me look worse.
why would that be a threat to you if you're town?
Because as Town I still don't want to be scumread. Especially if we're wrong today, score's 2-2, and I wind up in the test. Trying to bait me into a vote this early, while also setting the stage to shade me later if I change my mind, is intended to set that up.
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 2:58 pm
by fireisredsir
In post 1513, Loki Dokie wrote:Oh what did you mean then? but if you feel it would be better to not discuss until then fine, I guess.
yea i don't think its relevant to the current choice we're making
with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-08-11 09:45:00).
Much to think about.
Probably one of the most important posts in the game.
Why am I not confirmed scum because of this?
I should think that Greeting/Vulture slot and Bell as scum would hammer me without batting an eye at that opportunity
In post 316, Bell wrote:Are you the other dog avatar. Because you’re the only player that comes into a game as an alt and immediately claims that they’re obviously the sog avatar when you’re significantly goofier when you’re the dog.
In post 333, Bell wrote:*stares vacantly* Wisdom?
That doesn’t make any sense.
Just tell me. If you’re going to play coy about it.
Well more important question are you a polarized player where you play totally different as one alignment from another?
I feel like I got a tldr: from greeting that could be summed up as kill all lurkers.
Sure. Yeah. Okay.
I don't know if this was directed to me or anything. If you want to interact with me then you have to be very clear that the question is directed at me, because otherwise my brain will just decide it's not worth my effort.
As for my Day 1 strategy, it's pretty much work with what we've got, so leave the towniest out of the PoE and pick someone from the PoE. Because there will be no classic Day 2 or Day 3 for that matter and I don't want to be choosing between two lurkers.
Digging through the ISOs finally, and found these posts noteworthy. Greeting misinterprets Bell as addressing them twice, when Bell is actually talking to Loki.
What strikes me here is that if Greeting and Bell were sharing a scumchat, I don't think this kind of mistake gets made. The assumption that Bell would be pushing them for alt shenanigans instead of the person actively talking about being an alt and making reads based on others' knowledge of it is frankly quite silly as either alignment, but it makes even less sense if they're on a team and communicating outside the main thread. Like, from Greeting's PoV, if Bell wants to know their main they could have just asked in the PT, so the natural assumption would be that they mean someone else, right?
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:01 am
by GuiltyLion
hmmmmm
I see what you're saying, but my heart says it could still be attempts at distancing. It's a decent point though about Greeting mistaking Bell addressing them when he's not - part of me wants to say that could be reflective of self-conscious scum with a paranoid mindset, but it is odd that scum would react to their own buddy that way.
What do you make of my point in 1494? I'm going to have a hard time looking past that
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:33 am
by Aristeia
I think it's fairly trivial to fake not knowing who someone is or fake confusion in an interaction.
it's distancing without any real stakes and a light touch at that.
I don't think 1494 is definitive either way - contradictions are not solid evidence of alignment imo.
In post 1472, Aristeia wrote:I kind of want to see if Radical Rat will really vote for Vulture
In post 1474, Aristeia wrote:it kind of almost feels like RR is in the same position Bell was in on D1
This is bait, and it's coming from scum. Not for scumreading me, but for trying to goad me into specific actions under the threat of scumreading me.
What's the point of bait if you're both not up for decision? Seems like an honest angle out of pure curiosity.
Think you and Ari both villa atp.
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:01 am
by GuiltyLion
In post 1521, Aristeia wrote:I don't think 1494 is definitive either way - contradictions are not solid evidence of alignment imo.
but how does town!Greeting evolve from "I understand why furtive is annoyed" to "There's no reason for town to be annoyed"? If they did understand it in the first place, they'd understand why town might act that way. To me it seems like one of those statements has to be a lie. the best case I can make for a town explanation is that Greeting was exaggerating in the second post to try to sell a case, but even that still seems fundamentally disingenuous
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 7:47 am
by Loki Dokie
In post 1521, Aristeia wrote:I think it's fairly trivial to fake not knowing who someone is or fake confusion in an interaction.
it's distancing without any real stakes and a light touch at that.
I don't think 1494 is definitive either way - contradictions are not solid evidence of alignment imo.
+1
I’m not sold on that meaning anything, at least in part because Bell probably hardly used the scum pt, because he hardly did in Pooky v FL.
