FFVII Mafia: Over

[wolframnhart]

Do we need some prodding here? Game kinda stalled with a few players not posting here.

[TonyMontana]

I'd like to take this moment to reach out to the

Shinras

and the

Turks

, especially to a potential Turk roleblocker.
I want you to know that apart from having a pretty solid claim, I pose no threat to your factions. My sole goal is to find my nemesis,

Sephiroth

, and I'm searching for him one person at a time. I know you scum want him removed as well, Turks having already lost one to his blade.

So I propose that you hold off on any attempt of killing or blocking me you might be considering, for now, while I keep on looking for our mutual enemy.

If any Turk/Shinra agree to this "alliance", say "aye"

Oh, and Sephiroth... Can't make any assurances to you, so I hope you make an attempt at a protected Cloud tonight.


Btw, the two people I now know are not Sephiroth, are still alive. If I can't find him, I hope I can keep the not-SK list growing.

[iamausername]

Btw, the two people I now know are not Sephiroth, are still alive.

Is there any reason not to share this info with the rest of us?

Deadline's only a few days away, and remember, we need a full majority before then to get a lynch. Zakeri should really claim.

[Zakeri]

Ugh, fine.

Lowell is not a member of Shinra. I don't know if he's a turk or sephiroth or not. That's all the information I have right now because CallMeLiam was lynched.

I bet you guys want the name and flavor too, huh? Alright then.

I am Nanaki, although many have called me RedXIII. I was locked up in a cage, used by Hojo for his nasty experiments, while his peers were watching on. Fortunately, for the sake of this game, the glass was two sided, and I escaped knowing the faces of all those who are affiliated with Shinra.

If you noticed, I was the first person on CallMeLiam's wagon yesterday (although I temporarily switched to Kloud), which I made after the obligatory poke-ABR-in-the-chest-with-a-policy-vote vote. It's also the reason I've been hounding him, and why I was hesitant to vote for Lowell until my last "scummy slip-up" of making certain there were more scum groups than just Shinra. I've been trying to reread the game since then, but I haven't found anything I would put forth into a lynch yet.

So yeah, Now all we need is the Turk Cop claim so everyone except the Vig knows who to kill tonight.

[Yosarian2]

Tony: Uh....did you just claim to not be pro-town, and instead to having some kind of lyncher role?

Normally, I'd lynch anyone who claimed neutral, but I can't really see Sephiroth being pro-town. Still, I think we need some clarification here...

[Yosarian2]

Hmm...simulpost with Zak there.

Interesting claim from Zak. He could a Turk role-cop, but I'm certanly not willing to lynch a cop-claim today.

Considering how close we are to deadline, I guess I'll go with the wagon that's not a claimed cop, especally since I don't mind lynching Lowell; he's basically a complete null having said basically nothing all game.

Vote:Lowell

[Zakeri]

Tony: Uh....did you just claim to not be pro-town, and instead to having some kind of lyncher role?

Normally, I'd lynch anyone who claimed neutral, but I can't really see Sephiroth being pro-town. Still, I think we need some clarification here...

I'm pretty sure Tony claimed he could investigate for Sephiroth. Which means we now have two outed cops.

[iamausername]

Considering how close we are to deadline, I guess I'll go with the wagon that's not a claimed cop, especally since I don't mind lynching Lowell; he's basically a complete null having said basically nothing all game.

I think Empking's still got a bigger wagon, and he's pretty much said nothing all game too. Just sayin'.

Just checked back on Zakeri's posts on D1, and I'd say his reaction to Xtoxm's claim is consistent with him having a Shinra cop role himself. So yeah, I'll buy it.

[Yosarian2]

Well, true, although Tony's claimed role would only be threatening to one scum. Still, I'm still a little disturbed by his apparent claim at not having a pro-town win condition and offer to work with the scum (Remember, if his win condition is "Kill Seperoth", then, like he said, he could win with the scum, which makes him on some level an inherent threat to the town), and I really want to hear who is "Not Seperoth"; that's the kind of information that might be very useful to the town later.

[Yosarian2]

Considering how close we are to deadline, I guess I'll go with the wagon that's not a claimed cop, especally since I don't mind lynching Lowell; he's basically a complete null having said basically nothing all game.

I think Empking's still got a bigger wagon, and he's pretty much said nothing all game too. Just sayin'.

Hmm, good point. I mean, he hasn't been lurking to the extent Lowell has and has a least commented on a few issues; still, if it comes to it, I'd certanly rather lynch Empking then have a no-lynch today.

[Riceballtail]

I'll believe the claim.

UNVOTE

I'll review the empking case before placing a vote there.

[Cephrir]

Unvote

, obviously not going to lynch a claimed cop right now even though he could be a Turk.

Empking is an OK lynch, I guess. If there wasn't a deadline I'd want to look for another lead.

[TonyMontana]

Well, true, although Tony's claimed role would only be threatening to one scum. Still, I'm still a little disturbed by his apparent claim at not having a pro-town win condition and offer to work with the scum (Remember, if his win condition is "Kill Seperoth", then, like he said, he could win with the scum, which makes him on some level an inherent threat to the town), and I really want to hear who is "Not Seperoth"; that's the kind of information that might be very useful to the town later.

I didn't say anything about a win condition, and I didn't offer to work with the scum, I suggested they left me alone while I searched for Sephiroth. I'm an investigator for the town, and I think it's ridiculous that you managed to construct a lyncher/neutral claim in my post.

Cavebear and Ghostwriter are not SK

unvote
Vote: lowell

[Jebus]

Unvote
Vote: Lowell

I like Zakeri's claim, and whether or not it's true, I think we'll need a cop to get through.

[Yosarian2]

I didn't say anything about a win condition, and I didn't offer to work with the scum, I suggested they left me alone while I searched for Sephiroth. I'm an investigator for the town, and I think it's ridiculous that you managed to construct a lyncher/neutral claim in my post.

Ummm...

I pose no threat to your factions. My sole goal is to find my nemesis, Sephiroth, and I'm searching for him one person at a time.

You don't see how I might have read saying you pose "no threat" to the scum, and that your "sole goal' is to find Sephiroth, to be you claiming to be a neutral who's win condition is just to kill Sephiroth? And, for that matter, it sounded like you were not just claiming to be a neutral, you sounded like a neutral who was trying to make a pact with the mafia groups.

Now, if that's not what you were trying to say, then ok...

Cavebear and Ghostwriter are not SK

Ok, good to know.

[TonyMontana]

OK, I see my wording was a little off. (in a previous draft I wrote something like "I pose no threat to your factions, apart from having a solid claim")

Anyway, to clear up: My goal is to eliminate threats to the town. I will vote during day, and look for sephiroth during night.

[Yosarian2]

OK, I see my wording was a little off. (in a previous draft I wrote something like "I pose no threat to your factions, apart from having a solid claim")

Well, in the line before the part I quoted, you did say that part about the solid role claim, but still...I mean, any pro-town player is a threat to the scum, right?

Anyway, I guess I misunderstood. Sorry about that.

Anyway, to clear up: My goal is to eliminate threats to the town. I will vote during day, and look for sephiroth during night.

Ok, fair enough.

[CarnCarn]

I'm still a bit concerned with Zak's claim.
First, since Tony did, I think Zak should also fork over investigation results, so we have some more information for later in the game, and would have information to possibly confirm him as cop if/when his targets are dead.

I escaped knowing the faces of all those who are affiliated with Shinra.

What exactly does this mean?

Lowell is not a member of Shinra. I don't know if he's a turk or sephiroth or not. That's all the information I have right now because CallMeLiam was lynched.

Why does CML being lynched affect the information you have right now?
Also, why were you first on the CML wagon? Did you investigate him N1 or something? If so, why did you choose him, instead of, say, a more obvious target like ABR?

I was hesitant to vote for Lowell until my last "scummy slip-up" of making certain there were more scum groups than just Shinra.

This does explain somewhat your comment that "it was good to know for sure", but I'm still baffled how you could have thought there was only one scum group after we saw a Turk NK'd and a Shinra lynched.

[CarnCarn]

Cavebear and Ghostwriter are not SK

I also find these results a bit fishy. Were you just throwing darts at who to investigate? Are you throwing darts

now

as to who might not be SK, just to make your claim sound better?

[TonyMontana]

Cavebear and Ghostwriter are not SK

I also find these results a bit fishy. Were you just throwing darts at who to investigate? Are you throwing darts

now

as to who might not be SK, just to make your claim sound better?

Err.. do *you* know who the SK is?

[Empking]

Unvote

We're near deadline anhd Lowell is scummy.

Vote: Lowell

[CarnCarn]

Cavebear and Ghostwriter are not SK

I also find these results a bit fishy. Were you just throwing darts at who to investigate? Are you throwing darts

now

as to who might not be SK, just to make your claim sound better?

Err.. do *you* know who the SK is?

No. Now that I think about it, I don't think you should explain why you chose those people to investigate, as disclosing those reasons may affect how everyone else posts going forward.
Still, seems like extremely random choices from my perspective, as Cavebear and GhostWriter have been two of the least active players in this game. Perhaps you were just trying to play it safe with your investigations and trying to target inactives, who might be less likely to get NK'd (although most of those NK'd were relatively inactive). I don't really want to get into deep speculation about your criteria for investigation, only want to point out that I thought it seemed random.

[Cephrir]

By my count that's 5 votes for Lowell and still 4 for Empking. I'm still thinking about this.

[Lowell]

Alright I'm claiming too. I wanted to do this earlier, since I have literally no idea what anyone is saying. I premptively apologize to all people who hate random claims.

I am PROFESSOR GAST. Paraphrasing as much as I can, roughly I'm a person who used to be with the SHINRA group, but felt bad about it so I left.

I have no special abilities other than to protect GAIA with a vote. I win when things opposing the town are gone.

unvote, vote emp

. Zakeri's claim sounds at least as sensical as mine, I guess.

[Jebus]

Mod, Vote Count please?