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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:09 pm
by butterflies
In post 14990, Best Bird wrote:bottom line though - it's johnny.
And who is his buddy? I’m town neighbour and I hard tr Taly slot despite Noraa being utterly exqsperating.

Anyone who thinks I would seriously nk Pooky needs their head examined.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:18 pm
by butterflies
In post 14998, butterflies wrote:
In post 14994, Best Bird wrote:like - me knowing everything you have just said if i was scum...i would being doing the opposite of this but...keep those blinders on. they must be fun.
I know you’re extremely good at reasoning me where as Noraa’s terrible at it.
Eta:

READING me. In every game we’ve both been town, you’ve never wrongly sr me once.

And let’s say I’m wrong on you, you have led miselim after miselim so how are you not even questioning if your Johnny read could possibly be wrong? Confitown!Roden did. Had both you and OtH responded anything like Roden did, I’d probably now be thinking it actually is Johnny but I hate both of your reactions so much and if anyone looks like they’re trying to bamboozle me with AtE, it’s you not Johnny.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:21 pm
by Off The Hook
In post 14952, butterflies wrote:
In post 14951, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 14945, butterflies wrote:@OtH, @BB, Roden, Johnny and Noraa have all commented one way or another on my questioning my Johnny read. Do either of you have any thoughts on that?
What exactly are you questioning regarding Johnny?

~GE
My unvoting Johnny. Both you and BB are still voting him, yet say absolutely nothing about that.

And where are you getting MB pocketing me from? If MB is pocketing me, it’s like the worst pocket in mafia history.

And both Marci and BB look to be trying to shade Noraa suddenly. Despite you and BB both voting Johnny, neither of you are even talking about his alignment anymore. Why is that?

Now, I believe Luke genuinely is sr Noraa but BB previously gave the impression that he was going to have some scumcase on Johnny from either Ceph or Luke but he only mentions Noraa.

So maybe I should also ask both you and BB what your read is on each other?
I feel like Best Bird is town, but I don’t have 100% confidence
Ftr I am kinda just at a loss for words here because we’ve been calling Johnny scum the whole fucking game, now it seems like we actually have a shot to vote him out and now you’re pansying out at the last second. I wanna believe you’re town here but atm the only full-strength TR I have is Noraa, solely for the fact that I still don’t see Taly ever playing this game the way he did as scum.

~GE

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:24 pm
by butterflies
I agree I don’t think Noraa’s scum but you doubtong me isn’t helping my read on you. Keep shading me, it just makes me agree with Johnny more.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:30 pm
by butterflies
In post 15000, butterflies wrote:
In post 14990, Best Bird wrote:bottom line though - it's johnny.
And who is his buddy? I’m town neighbour and I hard tr Taly slot despite Noraa being utterly exqsperating.

Anyone who thinks I would seriously nk Pooky needs their head examined.
Oh and keep conveniently ignoring this while you’re at it. I don’t believe anyone excepr maybe Noraa - God only knows why - think there’s ever a world where it makes sense for me to kill Pooky here. The sheer fact that you are completely igboring this is just msking me pretty much quadruple down and not wanting to lim Johnny.

I know you know I’m not stupid - which I would 100% absolutely have to be to ever nk Pooky. No townie who’s actually bothered to read the entire fucking game could possibly think that.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:34 pm
by butterflies
My current solve is BB/OtH. In case I die, I’m willing to die on this hill. And if town ignores this and we lose, it’s not on me. I’ll take comfort in bragging rights.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:35 pm
by Off The Hook
:roll:
Both Marci and I have felt Johnny had been playing like he did in mini 2276 around the time that game ended, and nothing about his play has come up to change our minds
And to be frank, I don’t see much issue with how the vote was settled on him today. The main reason I see that he’s made it this far is that Drapion had been annoyingly vocal about townreading him. God knows what nonsense seeped into his mind but given his abominable mech play, I don’t trust a lick of what he said even after his townflip.

~GE

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:38 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
Reading this with a lil conf bias at this point, but gosh this is prolly tough for you two if i'm right. I hope y'all are still having fun.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:46 pm
by butterflies
Drap was right on RAD who BB led a miselim on because of Luke’s bad case on him and you are not only shading me but totally down with BB falsely claiming that I either somehow got bamboozled by Johnny’s non-existent AtE - when he has been the one very obviously trying to manipulate with it, yet you defend me but shade me when I don’t believe for one second either of you actually believes I ever kill Pooky here.

So both of you already royally fucked up with that.

And BB isn’t even considering the possibility he could be wrong on Johnny, how is that town?

I also don’t like BB saying it’s either me or Noraa. You get points for taking Noraa out of the equation but you doubting me is so beyond unbelievable, it cancels it out.

I consider both you and BB to be sensible if town and sensible town would logically realize how incredibly batshit insane it would be for me to have ever killed Pooky. That in itself if a big reason for me to be highly suss on both of you.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:56 pm
by butterflies
In post 14680, Best Bird wrote:
In post 14675, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 14664, Roden wrote:Let's assume the absolute worst happens today, we hammer Drap and they flip town. What happens tomorrow?
we kill johnnyfarrar and then OTH
+1
In post 14987, Best Bird wrote:I've responded with my actual answers.

It's you or it's noraa. Sorry if you don't like that.

See, this is why BB is scum. He initially agrees with Pooky that it was Johhny than you but suddenly for no explicable reason whatsoever, it’s now me or Noraa and @Gamma if you think there’s a world where I tr you for defending that garbage, you’re seriously hallucinating.

It looks exactly to me that Johnny’s solve is correct, the way both of you are both hard defending each other and shading me.

You guys should have killed us not Pooky. He probably would have helped you miselim Johnny.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:25 pm
by Off The Hook
In post 15008, butterflies wrote:Drap was right on RAD who BB led a miselim on because of Luke’s bad case on him and you are not only shading me but totally down with BB falsely claiming that I either somehow got bamboozled by Johnny’s non-existent AtE - when he has been the one very obviously trying to manipulate with it, yet you defend me but shade me when I don’t believe for one second either of you actually believes I ever kill Pooky here.

So both of you already royally fucked up with that.

And BB isn’t even considering the possibility he could be wrong on Johnny, how is that town?

I also don’t like BB saying it’s either me or Noraa. You get points for taking Noraa out of the equation but you doubting me is so beyond unbelievable, it cancels it out.

I consider both you and BB to be sensible if town and sensible town would logically realize how incredibly batshit insane it would be for me to have ever killed Pooky. That in itself if a big reason for me to be highly suss on both of you.
I’m not the one accusing you of killing Pooky currently. I think anyone could have made that kill, frankly, but I don’t believe it points to you at all. Stop letting BB poison the well against me!

~GE

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:36 pm
by Off The Hook
In post 14977, Best Bird wrote:ph i refuse to do that
In post 14978, Best Bird wrote:
In post 14976, butterflies wrote:
In post 14961, Best Bird wrote:
In post 14959, butterflies wrote:
In post 14957, Best Bird wrote:lol - Johnny’s posting today has been good? If you think that I have nothing to say to you.
Yes, that’s my opinion and if you want to convince me otherwise, this won’t accomplish that.
don't care - johnny flipping from wanting your lim to voting oth is gross but you won't be able to see it because

a) you're scum with him (explains the unvote at e-1 and sudden defense posture)
b) you've bought into his ate to you and you're blind now

either way, nothing I say will convice you so I'm not going to waste my time. kinda don't care to effort anymore after the fake guilty and luke peacing out
And what if Johnny’s town?
probably in noraa/oth
In post 14979, Best Bird wrote:did i say that?
In post 14980, Best Bird wrote:tbf - no, i did not.
Something did feel off about these posts
I get the sense BB is casting as many lines as he can hoping for a bite
His plan might be to bus Johnny and try to win alone.

And you know what, I’m gonna be deadly blunt here. I say this with full respect for you as a person Nancy; I don’t think it’s a good look for you to repeatedly blow up at people for daring to suspect you. This is a game of deception. If you can’t handle having a little suspicion thrown your way without having a meltdown, then I suggest you find a new pastime.

~GE

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:51 pm
by butterflies
I am extremely NOT happy with being bullied by both BB and you for using common sense and refusing to continue to be a sheeple. I no longer think Johnny’s scum here, deal with it.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:53 pm
by butterflies
In post 15011, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 14977, Best Bird wrote:ph i refuse to do that
In post 14978, Best Bird wrote:
In post 14976, butterflies wrote:
In post 14961, Best Bird wrote:
In post 14959, butterflies wrote:
In post 14957, Best Bird wrote:lol - Johnny’s posting today has been good? If you think that I have nothing to say to you.
Yes, that’s my opinion and if you want to convince me otherwise, this won’t accomplish that.
don't care - johnny flipping from wanting your lim to voting oth is gross but you won't be able to see it because

a) you're scum with him (explains the unvote at e-1 and sudden defense posture)
b) you've bought into his ate to you and you're blind now

either way, nothing I say will convice you so I'm not going to waste my time. kinda don't care to effort anymore after the fake guilty and luke peacing out
And what if Johnny’s town?
probably in noraa/oth
In post 14979, Best Bird wrote:did i say that?
In post 14980, Best Bird wrote:tbf - no, i did not.
Something did feel off about these posts
I get the sense BB is casting as many lines as he can hoping for a bite
His plan might be to bus Johnny and try to win alone.

And you know what, I’m gonna be deadly blunt here. I say this with full respect for you as a person Nancy; I don’t think it’s a good look for you to repeatedly blow up at people for daring to suspect you. This is a game of deception. If you can’t handle having a little suspicion thrown your way without having a meltdown, then I suggest you find a new pastime.

~GE
This post - what you said about me wasn’t cool and I want a fucking apology for it.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:09 pm
by Off The Hook
I apologize for my wording
Otherwise, I don’t see anything wrong with what I said there. I don’t see how this game is fun for you when it seems like any time you get pushed you tilt immediately. If you think I’m a bad friend for being honest with you, then I guess that’s just what I am.

~GE

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:12 pm
by Off The Hook
I honestly hate myself for going down this road because I feel like I’m talking to you like my parents talk to me about this game but they have a very poor scope of my emotional spectrum when playing this game. I feel like I have seen enough to get a clear picture of how you feel when playing and I don’t feel like I’ve even seen what you find fun about this game?

~GE

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:16 pm
by butterflies
In post 15014, Off The Hook wrote:I apologize for my wording
Otherwise, I don’t see anything wrong with what I said there. I don’t see how this game is fun for you when it seems like any time you get pushed you tilt immediately. If you think I’m a bad friend for being honest with you, then I guess that’s just what I am.

~GE
Honesty and meanness are not the same thing.

There’s no justification for you to have ever made that comment to me.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:18 pm
by butterflies
In post 15016, butterflies wrote:
In post 15014, Off The Hook wrote:I apologize for my wording
Otherwise, I don’t see anything wrong with what I said there. I don’t see how this game is fun for you when it seems like any time you get pushed you tilt immediately. If you think I’m a bad friend for being honest with you, then I guess that’s just what I am.

~GE
Honesty and meanness are not the same thing.

There’s no justification for you to have ever made that comment to me.
And you know what, I’m gonna be deadly blunt here. I say this with full respect for you as a person Nancy; I don’t think it’s a good look for you to repeatedly blow up at people for daring to suspect you. This is a game of deception.
If you can’t handle having a little suspicion thrown your way without having a meltdown, then I suggest you find a new pastime.


~GE
THIS post.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:20 pm
by butterflies
It’s the nature of the game to scumread people, not attacking their character.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:23 pm
by butterflies
And ftr, I’m not even close to have anything even remotely resembling a meltdown here. I maybe did with Drap, which is why I avoided the thread.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:28 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 15014, Off The Hook wrote:I apologize for my wording
Otherwise, I don’t see anything wrong with what I said there. I don’t see how this game is fun for you when it seems like any time you get pushed you tilt immediately. If you think I’m a bad friend for being honest with you, then I guess that’s just what I am.

~GE
In post 15015, Off The Hook wrote:I honestly hate myself for going down this road because I feel like I’m talking to you like my parents talk to me about this game but they have a very poor scope of my emotional spectrum when playing this game. I feel like I have seen enough to get a clear picture of how you feel when playing and I don’t feel like I’ve even seen what you find fun about this game?

~GE
I was having loads of FUN prior to you making that post.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:29 pm
by Off The Hook
Here’s the thing:
we’ve voice chatted before
. I think you of all people would know I’m only trying to help. Is that the nicest thing in the world to say, definitely not, but it’s hard to really describe what I’m seeing here any other way. We called BB town ONCE and now you’re getting pissed at us for it.

~Gamma Emerald

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:32 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 15021, Off The Hook wrote:Here’s the thing:
we’ve voice chatted before
. I think you of all people would know I’m only trying to help. Is that the nicest thing in the world to say, definitely not, but it’s hard to really describe what I’m seeing here any other way. We called BB town ONCE and now you’re getting pissed at us for it.

~Gamma Emerald
I’m pissed because you’re basically bullying me to stop playing mafia and no one has any right to do that.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:33 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
Telling me not to play mafia - is the absolute antithesis of what I’d consider “helpful”.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:35 pm
by Off The Hook
Let me put this another way:
What DO you find fun about this game? For me, I enjoy the social connections I get to make, and I also sometimes enjoy getting to embrace my inner thespian and play a role (not in the power role sense)

~GE