↑ Porochaz wrote:Grrr... I've been waiting patiently for you opinion on iam and you post some random shit about a useless poster instead...
Well, I was actually waiting for a very specific thing. MoI said it was basically 90% likely to be Iam/MoS if MoS voted for Leela.
So I wanted to see what would happen. As I see it at this point.
1) Jason is very unlikely to be scum. Strong town reads on him. Everyone who died had strong town reads on him. He has made sense and made reasonable posts for basically the entire game. He is a very straight shooter, and I doubt he's done well as scum before, meaning that he'd have to sell his team that he could take a scum role, then sell everyone in the town on him being town, and manage to fake being a reasonable townie very well. Err... nah. I'll happily lose to Jason scum in this scenario and congratulate him after the game. It's not worth worrying about.
2) SCUM IS NOT BUSSING THE ROLEBLOCKER. Period. If the roleblocker dies today, then it's basically a disaster. Assuming we all agree Jason is town, then we go into tomorrow with 2 confirmed town and 1 universal town read and 2 lynches left. Or with 1 confirmed scum and no one cares etc.
3) Then we are on to the remaining players.
Iamausername -
I am was a latecomer on the Haylen wagon. He put Haylen to L-1, and was fairly instrumental in getting her lynched. Day 2, he was hard on the Delta wagon, and I dislike #1155. A lot. He also attacked the idea that some scum could have been defending Haylen for town cred though, which makes little sense as scum (if he and delta were both on haylen wagon, I'd think he'd want us to look hard at the haylen defenders).
The quickhammer was awful, only slightly mitigated by the player it was on. I really hate how he hammered the neighborizor. While PV's play was awful, he had to know that neighbors are mostly town. But... what motive did scum have to end the day quickly yesterday?
↑ hasdgfas wrote:: Mastermind of Sin, jasonT1981, GreyICE
iamausername, UberNinja, Captain Leela
CooLDoG, Porochaz
Not voting: PeregrineV
That being said, why quickhammer? There was a good chance PV would become almost certainly town (if he'd claimed today in the mass claim, he'd have been confirmed by virtue of role reasons), and clearly Iam did not think he was the scummiest player. That was Porochaz, who he attacked immediately day 2.
Quickhammering without claim an idiot player who might have become confirmed town. Moving off Porochaz who might have died.
CooLDoG -
I have been barking up the CD tree for days. No one is interested. I am still alive. Uber starts barking up the CD tree yesterday. Uber dies immediately. Clearly wasn't because he suspected Poro, was it because he suspected CD? If so, why am I alive? No good reasons. Delta attacked him hard. We'll get to delta eventually, but that didn't seem to be Delta's MO.
CooLDoG is likely town. Not 100%, but likely. There was no real reason for him to L-1 DeltaWave, hours before deadline, when he hadn't logged on for ages. Easy to sit that one out and go 'oops well not online.' Could be an opportune time to bus, on the theory that he was going down anyway, so. I'll circle back, but CD for now is likely town.
Leela
- Tammy is the queen of wall posters. The absolute queen. Wall after wall of endless text hits me. It crits me. Etc.
But there's some very good signs hiding in that text (as well as some very bad ones).
GOOD:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p4071849 - Jason is town, Glork explained it here, [UberNinja] is town for similar reasons (that's not pushing suspicion on someone people are trying to lynch)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p4071696 - Arguments with Delta seem genuine. She's pissed at him.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p4074441 - again engaging with Delta
BAD:
Her activity level drops off SIGNIFICANTLY after Delta is lynched. Tammy is a new player, and while good, is probably exactly the sort of scum who has problems finding townies scummy. If that's the case, it would explain the shittiness of her recent posts.
MoS
- he's been scum forever, dawgs. It's why I'm still alive. He is too fucking proud to shoot me after replacing out of a game and calling me tons of names while doing so.
My team is 100% on this. Scum team is Iam and MastermindofSin
Magna of Illusion cites his vote counts. There's shitty stuff all over there for them. Highlights:
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Post #246 - asks Jason whether Iam is scum. No mention of whether he thinks Iam is scum. Setting up links for a scumflip?
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Haylen(7):
iamausername, GreyICE, PeregrineV, UberNinja, Slaxx, DeltaWave, Glork
Delta the other wagon, and Haylen went through with one scum on it?
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MoS puts Delta to 5 votes, but posts #838, where he makes a meaningless 'I want to hammer so bad' post. Interesting, because it indicates he's been watching the thread rather closely, despite allegedly not giving a shit.
So he has a horse in the race?
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MoS attacks Iam several times on day 2. Votes Iam. Pushes him.
Post #1343 - one of Iam, PeregrineV, and UberNinja is scum. VOTE: PEREGRINEV
Never pushed PV-scum, and Iam would be a much more natural target for MoS-town.
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Post #1396 - a lot of CYA, and suddenly his top scum candidate is vanishing.
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Yet today, shit is on the wire, and they're suddenly crossvoting.