Fire on the Mountain [Over]

[Jingle]

kk.

why me? I gotta say I'm curious.

[Alisae]

FA

[Dannflor]

You wanna see the reason I'm scumreading him?

Yes.

You're paranoid.

[Dannflor]

Grapes wagon is just eh.

Grapes wagon is just eh.

Is your problem with it Grapes or the people voting Grapes?

Grapes. Like hes not obv town but there are much better lunches in the horizon. Plus the speed that the wagon developed smells a bit opportunistic, like people wanting off attn on Buj

Defending grapes by pushing elsewhere, not defending grapes, btw.

Vedith does the same thing.

Someone go over the Grapes wagon for me.

I think vedith doesn't deserve townreads yet. He can obvtown and hasn't posted enough yet to do that so y'all want to explain the tow reads?

This is the first thing I've liked from you and I suspect there's Scum somewhere town reading me.
BuJ still Scum here I think though.

Why was the wagon dropped?

Ok. Thought as much but wanted to make sure.

Why is Grapes a good vote?

[Karmeleon]

Checked Vedith

Spoiler:

He's town

[Dannflor]

Sleep well all of you wonderful people \o/
You too Grapes.

Sleep well all of you wonderful people \o/
You too Grapes.

Love you too vedith

Pop Quiz: Is this interaction S/S?

Does a scum!Vedith initiate this joke interaction with his buddy despite not interacting with him directly all game before then?

I feel like logically the answer should be no

[Dannflor]

Meanwhile, I read grapes posts during the night phase and I think it no longer makes sense for me to scumread Shoshin until something happens.

I missed this earlier. Can you elaborate?

What's your read on Dann?

What's your read on me?

[Dannflor]

Why did I have DDL as maybe town? Honestly no idea

Is this entire game just shitposting

in your opinion, does scum shitpost more or town?

How is this supposed to help you sort Gamma?

Anyways I'm voting from folks off the grapes wagon today. Hammer came too fast and I think scum could possibly hope for wiggling out of getting grapes lynched

You should actually vote for someone if this is what you think then, especially considering the primary wagon rnow is someone who was on the grapes wagon.

You only have 6 options excluding yourself...

Spoiler: Cha-ching, v3

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Sorted Town
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DoubtingThomas
Jingle
Extrapolated Eagle
Vedith
Karmeleon
DrDolittle
PvtUrist (PoR)
NerfedBuJ
mcqueen
Alisae
Xtoxm
Lycanfire

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Leftovers
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Clemency
Gamma Emerald
grapes
Shoshin

I'm not too offended by the readlist. Are the town chaching ordered or nah

But you mostly agree with this reads list?

Which means your primary suspect is Gamma today? Give me a reads list of your own.

VOTE: DDL

[Dannflor]

Lemme throw it out there that while Eagles play is bad i think its bad town and anyone voting him is looking scummy rn. Yes you grapes

Mcqueen can be town for this post by the way

[DrDolittle]

dann you're an eager beaver. I haven't had time to really read since daybreak. just offering some thoughts. I do think scum is off the wagon tho. My scum read on Buj is faded. I don't really see why my primary suspect is gamma? Did I say it was? Is it cause gamma = intersection(not on grapes wagon, scum from rei)?

[DrDolittle]

Ok. yeah I should do some work for this game
Vedith(90) mcqueen(22) Xtoxm(21) Gamma Emerald(18), Dannflor(155), Karmeleon(33)
these are the 6 people that I should be considering

[DrDolittle]

out of these, I don't think its gamma - he just hasn't been online to push for an alternate wagon. I don't think its Kameleon. That teletubby gif is not a scum post. I don't think its Dann. Replacing in he would have had a higher urgency to move to either bus or rile up a counterwagon.

[DrDolittle]

Leaving Vedith, mcqueen, and Xtoxm. I rank them Vedith > Xtoxm > mcqueen in that order, but I do need to figure things out more. Ok sorry that's all the time I can put in today

[DrDolittle]

tbh, If I were not be, I'd probably be pushing me right now.

[Jingle]

VOTE: Dannflor

Feel more surer here. No opposed to bear lynching though, if that's the way the wind blows.

[Dannflor]

dann you're an eager beaver. I haven't had time to really read since daybreak. just offering some thoughts. I do think scum is off the wagon tho. My scum read on Buj is faded. I don't really see why my primary suspect is gamma? Did I say it was? Is it cause gamma = intersection(not on grapes wagon, scum from rei)?

You're not about to get turbo lynched with the pressure on Alisae, and I like to make my vote useful. Am I really that eager if you admit you'd be pushing yourself in my shoes?

And yea Gamma is the one scum in that reads list you said you agreed with that is in that intersection.

[Dannflor]

VOTE: Dannflor

Feel more surer here. No opposed to bear lynching though, if that's the way the wind blows.

I swear every time a town player tunnels town!me they also absolutely refuse to engage with me and it's the most frustrating thing in the world

flashbacks to PvT in Merchant's Dance

why am I scum?

[Jingle]

Your catchup and the subsequent townreads mirrors No deadlines almost perfectly.
You scumcased the dead player, did not vote the dead player, and then said that scum on the dead player's wagon would probably grab for towncred by explaining their reads as opposed to sheeping.
You handwaved the bit about DDL by saying Vedith was doing the same thing then deciding Vedith was town after Karm weighed in without actually addressing the bit about DDL.
You seem overconcerned about how people see you.

A hint: engaging me over you isn't a good way to get me to change my read. Engaging me over not you might work though.

[Dannflor]

You should probably read a town game of mine if that's a major factor.
I don't understand how my point on who scum might be on the wagon is bad. Do you have problems with the logic?
That wasn't me handwaving, that was me... trying to engage with you on it. The DDL thing was icky, but I felt like Vedith was doing the same thing and yet you ignored it.

I'm not necessarily trying to get you to change your read, I'm mostly just trying to see your thought processes on how you got to where you are on me because it helps me sort. I already think you're pretty heavily town but I can't just write your slot off particularly if you think I'm scum.

Your suspicion of me stems from No Deadlines which... UGH

Let's just say you're not the first player to continually shade my town game because of that game

[Dannflor]

Could you look at the Vedith stuff I highlighted above and tell me what you think? That was mostly just me stream-of-consciousnessing and I was hoping people would interact with my thoughts there because I keep second guessing myself all over the place on Vedith

[Dannflor]

Your suspicion of me stems from No Deadlines which... UGH

Let's just say you're not the first player to continually shade my town game because of that game

I do think this paranoia stems from town more than scum though

swear to GOD I'm not trying to pocket you

[Jingle]

First bit is more asking why to vote than DDL was, and doesn't suggest alternatives. Much better than DDL.

Second bit is NAI. Vedith joking like that means Vedith and grapes have history, but it doesn't say much about Vedith.

I remember a gut town read on him.

And, to be clear... I didn't think you deserved to be townread for your catchup in deadlines, either. I think it's a very easy string of posts to townread, but that they're actually NAI. Outside of DDL who is scum?

[Shoshin]

VOTE: Lycan

[Dannflor]

Vedith strongly pushes Buj as an alternative in between there though, same as DDL? It's less overt but it's the same action.

I know you didn't think so. I'm just saying my catch up there isn't far off from what my town catch up would've been

I think Shoshin/Vedith is a possible team but I'm feeling less sure about Vedith now. I wouldn't be surprised if there was 1 scum in the lurkers like xtoxm/Karmeleon/Gamma, but I wouldn't look there first. Alisae has potential but I don't understand why she was the defacto wagon today nor why it built so quickly. Prince calling her town has me doubting too because I will sheep him.

If I'm wrong about any of my town reads it's Clemency/Lycan, but I'd probably lynch in the lurkers before here.

[Extrapolated Eagle]

Your catchup and the subsequent townreads mirrors No deadlines almost perfectly.
You scumcased the dead player, did not vote the dead player, and then said that scum on the dead player's wagon would probably grab for towncred by explaining their reads as opposed to sheeping.
You handwaved the bit about DDL by saying Vedith was doing the same thing then deciding Vedith was town after Karm weighed in without actually addressing the bit about DDL.
You seem overconcerned about how people see you.

A hint: engaging me over you isn't a good way to get me to change my read. Engaging me over not you might work though.

I disagree with this.

When he caught up in ND he immediately voted for scum and called out the entire scum team in his reads with the exception of one, IIRC.