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Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:30 pm
by Wooper
VOTE: noms

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:35 pm
by AaronFrost
In post 1521, Sirfetchd wrote:I also don't really like Aaron's angles on nom.
Explain?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:37 pm
by AaronFrost
In post 1524, Luca Blight wrote:@Frost: in his previous scum game Billy hardly interacted with his partner at all, maybe just once or twice. He never pushed or voted his partner, which leads me to believe the likes of Suji and Kerset are Town.
Then I strongly believe that nomx3 is scum here. nom's one of the most active posters here and there's very little mention of her in his ISO.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:14 pm
by Sirfetchd
I want to see more of it because it is a surface level read, so no pushing you until I have dece evidence to back up the read. It's just the framing and interpretation of responses. It's similar to something I do when I want to force my lynches from a back seat as both alignments. When I see it in others I think have less range than me, I read it as scummy.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:30 pm
by Sirfetchd
Ok bosses have left for the week. Someone chat with me. I got three hours I can talk game.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:33 pm
by Something_Smart
Does read as a scumclaim to you too?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:45 pm
by Luca Blight
Billy/Flubs/Frost scumteam would make sense, actually.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:48 pm
by skitter30
In post 1073, AaronFrost wrote:We don't even know for sure that Billy is vanilla though? Yeah he was last on the draft list so he's the most likely to be vanilla but that doesn't 'necessarily' mean he's vanilla.
why is this a scumclaim?

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:50 pm
by skitter30
In post 1507, nomnomnom wrote:
In post 1506, Luca Blight wrote:Nom, thoughts on Flubs?
Easy to forget about the guy so your vote makes sense and I approve of it. I could vote there honestly, although Aaron seems like a much better lynch if you forget the "look at the lurkers" angle.
i can see nom/flub

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:50 pm
by Luca Blight
In post 1154, Flubbernugget wrote:Pg 40

Billy and aaron both look like they lynch is converging on them out of apathy in absence of any solid scum cases
This is the second post I’ve seen of Flubs soft-defending Billy and Frost.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:54 pm
by Luca Blight
In post 1273, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 1251, Luca Blight wrote:I normally hate such arguments as ‘I wouldn’t play like this as scum’ but I can actually see this one; she probably would have been more self-aware as scum. I feel like giving Xayah the benefit of the doubt for now.

I’m still up for a Kerset Lynch if no-one wants Billy?
I'd be willing to compromise on lynching Kerset but I'm not down for lynching Billy today. I think I'll be able to get a better read on him as the game continues on.
This looks bad, just as the Billy wagon was picking up steam. I don’t seen any good reason not to consider compromising on Billy at this stage.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:55 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 1532, skitter30 wrote:why is this a scumclaim?
If you stopped and thought about it for two seconds you'd realize that there's no way in hell Billy wasn't vanilla.

So why was this posted?

Well, so Aaron could emphasize of course that there's NO WAY he knew what Billy's role was because they're DEFINITELY NOT PARTNERS.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:58 pm
by Sirfetchd
I'm not seeing is SS.

And ya those are dece quotes Luca.

I want to know why rb got cop and flub didn't take the slot. Because he also didn't take the next best imo.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:59 pm
by Sirfetchd
Doesn't mean he isn't scum but I don't see it as a scum claim.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 4:59 pm
by Luca Blight
In post 1283, AaronFrost wrote:
In post 1278, Luca Blight wrote:I have to say that 72 hours per prod seems too high, especially when prod dodges are seemingly allowed.

I’m a little confused as to why Frost is so against the Billy lynch. I think even independent of meta he looks very suspect due to the way he is approaching the game, and the fact this is far from his usual town play style supports this. Do you have any reason to think Billy is Town?
It's not so much that I think Billy is going to flip town but more that I think the case against him is weak and mostly meta-based. If I had to make a list of lynch candidates he'd probably be like fourth on the list. If someone were to make a strong case against him then I could be convinced but right now I'd prefer Xayah or Kerset over him.
Says he doesn’t think Billy will flip town but doesn’t want to vote him due to the lack of a good case, but I think the case against Billy was at least as good as the cases against Kerset and Xayah.

The more I look at this reaction, the more it’s pinging me. It’s not a natural reaction to a wagon against someone you aren’t even townreading.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Frost

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:00 pm
by skitter30
In post 1536, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1532, skitter30 wrote:why is this a scumclaim?
If you stopped and thought about it for two seconds you'd realize that there's no way in hell Billy wasn't vanilla.

So why was this posted?

Well, so Aaron could emphasize of course that there's NO WAY he knew what Billy's role was because they're DEFINITELY NOT PARTNERS.
:squint:

yeah i'm not sure i see that
it's def not a scumclaim

it doesn't read that way to me, it reads more like aaron doesn't understand the setup and doesn't entirely understand why it's unlikely for billy to be a pr than for him to be faking that imo

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:00 pm
by skitter30
i'd really prefer nom or flub today, i think

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:03 pm
by Sirfetchd
I think it is a bit of a spiral to look at pre flip relational not including flipped scum.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:03 pm
by Luca Blight
I’m still considering those options as well, Skitter. It wouldn’t surprise me if the remaining scum are in that group of Nom/Flubs/Frost.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:07 pm
by Something_Smart
Well gee, if only we had a cop to help us figure it out :shifty:

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:09 pm
by Sirfetchd
I don't see why anyone wouldn't take UB over role cop.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:10 pm
by Luca Blight
Actually I still think Flubs is the best wagon for today. Probably going to need a claim from him to help clear up his slot.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Flubs

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:14 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 1545, Sirfetchd wrote:I don't see why anyone wouldn't take UB over role cop.
Scum would probably take rolecop.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:16 pm
by Sirfetchd
In post 1547, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1545, Sirfetchd wrote:I don't see why anyone wouldn't take UB over role cop.
Scum would probably take rolecop.
Even then I doubt it, simply because UB is such good town utility when the strong PR slots are basically known to scum.

role cop only really has utility in the hands of town in miss claim. I think UB is miles ahead for both alignments.

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:18 pm
by Something_Smart
Well, let's hope there is one, then.