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Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 1:18 pm**

In post 1522, Dunnstral wrote:Guys, I'm pretty sure "fruit checker" isn't a normal role, and this is a normal game - they've abolished the greylist a while back, such a role doesn't exist in this game, I'm pretty sure

ok, so VPB probably scum

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 1:21 pm**

In post 1523, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1509, midwaybear wrote:me and dunn are basically conf town
i don't think votato's claim really matters
I don't get the second quote string?
How are you confirmed town without someone to third party confirm you don't have fruit?

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 1:22 pm**

In post 1525, midwaybear wrote:
In post 1522, Dunnstral wrote:Guys, I'm pretty sure "fruit checker" isn't a normal role, and this is a normal game - they've abolished the greylist a while back, such a role doesn't exist in this game, I'm pretty sure
ok, so VPB probably scum

You mean with Mavs as well?

I kind of believe Mavs claim. I don't like Votato.

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 1:22 pm**

what's the point of a fruit vendor if we can't be confirmed? That's sorta wack tbh

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 1:27 pm**

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=80850

This large normal had a Simple Disloyal Fruit Vendor, and a Simple Loyal Fruit Vendor

The simple modifier means the role only works against vanilla roles (Vanilla town or mafia goon)

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 1:28 pm**

what's the point of a fruit vendor if no one can confirum you

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 1:29 pm**

"Hey did you get fruit last night"

"yea"

"you're mafia"

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 1:30 pm**

In post 1531, Dunnstral wrote:"Hey did you get fruit last night"

"yea"

"you're mafia"

ohh i see, but now everyone knows so it's useless
hmm. Then mavs played this pretty bad. He could have first claimed fruit vendor and then asked you and I if we got fruit. Ugh

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 1:33 pm**

In post 1532, midwaybear wrote:
In post 1531, Dunnstral wrote:"Hey did you get fruit last night"

"yea"

"you're mafia"
ohh i see, but now everyone knows so it's useless
hmm. Then mavs played this pretty bad. He could have first claimed fruit vendor and then asked you and I if we got fruit. Ugh

Yeah, and mav is NOT that sloppy IMO. His early content was good but he tanked hard after Gamma got run up.

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 1:33 pm**

Basically, he's tilted as Scum.

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 1:34 pm**

In post 1527, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1525, midwaybear wrote:
In post 1522, Dunnstral wrote:Guys, I'm pretty sure "fruit checker" isn't a normal role, and this is a normal game - they've abolished the greylist a while back, such a role doesn't exist in this game, I'm pretty sure
ok, so VPB probably scum
You mean with Mavs as well?

I kind of believe Mavs claim. I don't like Votato.

In post 1522, Dunnstral wrote:Guys, I'm pretty sure "fruit checker" isn't a normal role, and this is a normal game - they've abolished the greylist a while back, such a role doesn't exist in this game, I'm pretty sure

Tell me how this makes sense.

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 1:36 pm**

In post 1535, Quick wrote:
In post 1527, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1525, midwaybear wrote:
In post 1522, Dunnstral wrote:Guys, I'm pretty sure "fruit checker" isn't a normal role, and this is a normal game - they've abolished the greylist a while back, such a role doesn't exist in this game, I'm pretty sure
ok, so VPB probably scum
You mean with Mavs as well?

I kind of believe Mavs claim. I don't like Votato.

In post 1522, Dunnstral wrote:Guys, I'm pretty sure "fruit checker" isn't a normal role, and this is a normal game - they've abolished the greylist a while back, such a role doesn't exist in this game, I'm pretty sure
Tell me how this makes sense.

What do you mean? I'm talking about two different things here:

Mav's claim: Disloyal fruit vendor

What he thinks votato is: 'Fruit Checker' - this is what I'm pretty sure isn't a real role

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 1:44 pm**

In post 1536, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1535, Quick wrote:
In post 1527, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1525, midwaybear wrote:
In post 1522, Dunnstral wrote:Guys, I'm pretty sure "fruit checker" isn't a normal role, and this is a normal game - they've abolished the greylist a while back, such a role doesn't exist in this game, I'm pretty sure
ok, so VPB probably scum
You mean with Mavs as well?

I kind of believe Mavs claim. I don't like Votato.

In post 1522, Dunnstral wrote:Guys, I'm pretty sure "fruit checker" isn't a normal role, and this is a normal game - they've abolished the greylist a while back, such a role doesn't exist in this game, I'm pretty sure
Tell me how this makes sense.
What do you mean? I'm talking about two different things here:

Mav's claim: Disloyal fruit vendor

What he thinks votato is: 'Fruit Checker' - this is what I'm pretty sure isn't a real role

VT is my favorite role because it's the least complicated and most straight forward.

I leave the claims to the birds.

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 1:53 pm**

i have a suspicion why you are saying this, yet I still am confused

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 1:55 pm**

In post 1538, midwaybear wrote:i have a suspicion why you are saying this, yet I still am confused

You should see my Scum game. Never had to claim a BS role.

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 1:56 pm**

??? I was confused why you brought up VT when it seemed totally irrelevant.

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 2:02 pm**

In post 1540, midwaybear wrote:??? I was confused why you brought up VT when it seemed totally irrelevant.

VT is always relevant

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 3:03 pm**

uh yeah i am not gonna claim here. i will say that my role has nothing to do with fruit. based on the wiki, that isnt a normal role, although fruit vendor is. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game
the disloyal modifier is pretty convenient, because it means that at this point the role is unverifiable (except by a watcher or voyeur).
as midway said, the "midway is fruitless" comment was a dig at midway. I still think i buy the claim for now, just because of the breadcrumb. theres also really no need to kill the slot since its potentially verifiable.

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 3:09 pm**

In post 1542, votato wrote:theres also really no need to kill the slot since its potentially verifiable.

Huh? Am I missing something?

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 3:09 pm**

In post 1542, votato wrote:uh yeah i am not gonna claim here. i will say that my role has nothing to do with fruit. based on the wiki, that isnt a normal role, although fruit vendor is. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game
the disloyal modifier is pretty convenient, because it means that at this point the role is unverifiable (except by a watcher or voyeur).
as midway said, the "midway is fruitless" comment was a dig at midway. I still think i buy the claim for now, just because of the breadcrumb. theres also really no need to kill the slot since its potentially verifiable.

So who is scum then?

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 3:10 pm**

In post 1543, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1542, votato wrote:theres also really no need to kill the slot since its potentially verifiable.
Huh? Am I missing something?

They said Watcher or Voyeur

I disagree, I think any more town investigatives would be too many town investigatives

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 3:12 pm**

In post 1545, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1543, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1542, votato wrote:theres also really no need to kill the slot since its potentially verifiable.
Huh? Am I missing something?
They said Watcher or Voyeur

I disagree, I think any more town investigatives would be too many town investigatives

We don't know what Scum have. All we have so far are 2 claimed roles that are dead. SM usually implies a saving role. It's for this reason I believe votato over mav.

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 3:13 pm**

In post 1545, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1543, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1542, votato wrote:theres also really no need to kill the slot since its potentially verifiable.
Huh? Am I missing something?
They said Watcher or Voyeur

I disagree, I think any more town investigatives would be too many town investigatives

Well if it's fake maybe not?

I'm not really inclined to believe it is fake though, so that makes sense

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 3:13 pm**

In post 1545, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1543, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 1542, votato wrote:theres also really no need to kill the slot since its potentially verifiable.
Huh? Am I missing something?
They said Watcher or Voyeur

I disagree, I think any more town investigatives would be too many town investigatives

traffic analyst is a bit weaker than cop, and watcher/voyeur are pretty weak. fruit vendor justifies having one of those roles, and between a traffic analyst and a voyeur its basically one cop, in terms of strength imho.

Posted: **Mon May 25, 2020 3:14 pm**

Watcher isn't weak though

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