Micro 952 - The Coalition: ItGBSMoD [game over!]


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Post Post #1525 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:49 am

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Vote count 1.40

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-07-07 13:00:00)


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Clover Ebi (2):
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PookyTheMagicalBear (2):
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SleeperSoul (1):
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Post Post #1526 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:49 am

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Independently of koba and bugspray I think chemist reads as town
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Post Post #1527 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:50 am

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Oh fuck we only have a day left
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Post Post #1528 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:52 am

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In post 1515, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:If clover was town - why would he remove himself from contention? the move doesn't really make sense from either POV
Clover has already given his reasoning and while I don't think it's optimal, I think it's valid and conceivable that he wanted to do it as town.
Tl;dr seems to be that he didn't think he was townread enough and so he wanted to avoid muddying the waters by being a mostly null-read in the coalition.

Why am I getting the feeling that you really want Clover to be on the table as an option, more than you actually believe Clover is scum?
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Post Post #1529 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:52 am

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I also think Chemist's play is pretty town so far.
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Post Post #1530 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:53 am

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I will join a wagon on Sleeper or Pooky to get a lynch today. I'm trying to work out which I prefer.
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Post Post #1531 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:56 am

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In post 1524, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:between SS bussing and Klick defending I think it makes more sense for SS to be bussing to set up a smooth endgame
I don't disagree but I think it just makes more sense for Clover to be town?
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Post Post #1532 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:03 am

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Who said SS was town? Was it deimos?
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Post Post #1533 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:05 am

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I said SS was town
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Post Post #1534 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:06 am

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In post 1531, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 1524, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:between SS bussing and Klick defending I think it makes more sense for SS to be bussing to set up a smooth endgame
I don't disagree but I think it just makes more sense for Clover to be town?
sometimes scum play moves that don't make sense for exactly this reason
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Post Post #1535 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:07 am

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In post 1528, Klick wrote:Why am I getting the feeling that you really want Clover to be on the table as an option, more than you actually believe Clover is scum?
even if I didn't believe clover was scum I'd still be trying to break down your thought process to figure out whether this is a genuine conversation
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Post Post #1536 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:26 am

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Except that's not all you're doing. Looking at the last two pages and reading your posts, the vibe I get is at best 'Clover-skeptic'. That seems to be your main agenda at the moment, and not just in 1515. It doesn't quite add up with your unvote on Clover recently either.
I guess I'm mainly wondering what you're actually trying to achieve if it's not 'lightly push Clover as a lynch option'.
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Post Post #1537 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:29 am

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I've been a clover skeptic since Koba pushed him onto the coalition over DC
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Post Post #1538 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:57 am

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In post 1528, Klick wrote:Tl;dr seems to be that he didn't think he was townread enough and so he wanted to avoid muddying the waters by being a mostly null-read in the coalition.
Regardless of how optimal this might be, can you see this as a plausible town thought process Pooky?
What do you think of the rest of my town case on Clover?
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Post Post #1539 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:59 am

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In post 1534, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1531, Chemist1422 wrote:
In post 1524, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:between SS bussing and Klick defending I think it makes more sense for SS to be bussing to set up a smooth endgame
I don't disagree but I think it just makes more sense for Clover to be town?
sometimes scum play moves that don't make sense for exactly this reason
I guess

Doesn't make Clover a better kill than SS here though because I don't see any other Clover world happening
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Post Post #1540 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:05 pm

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Does Clover read as the type of player who makes the nonsensical play in the position he was in?
'It's possible Clover made a Hail Mary' isn't very convincing to me
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Post Post #1541 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:06 pm

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Especially in what would be his first scum game on site
And when the play he has represented in this game could not really be called 'aggressive play' by any stretch of the imagination
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Post Post #1542 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:23 pm

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In post 1508, SleeperSoul wrote:
In post 1505, Clover Ebi wrote:
In post 1503, SleeperSoul wrote:@Clover What do you like about Aldus?
No no, I'm saying that's who I would vote at the moment.
Also I don't think I ever tried to slide onto the Co. I openly didn't want to be on it because of this exact reason that I was afraid of. Do you think both scum are on here or do you think I just made a gambit?

Oh okay, that makes sense.



I don't think it's too unlikely that you could make a gambit because of the level of 'general disruption' this game has suffered.
I mean, I guess you can make this assumption since I haven't played as scum before so I wouldn't know what scum me would do but uh, I don't think I'd do that. Honestly I'd probably try to get my partner in over myself like Pooky is trying to push. Although if that was the case I don't know why Pooky is pushing me here.
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Post Post #1543 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:23 pm

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I just think Pooky is probably the scum here, they didn't really put up a fuss with me going in and now suddenly I'm on the table.
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Post Post #1544 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:50 pm

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This game is really a lot more confusing than I was expecting based on the setup. I don't know why pooky is so hesitant to accept that I was voting koba out of frustration. I wanna say that pings me as scummy, but I also want to say I'm super confused about this game overall.

I'm pretty sure pooky, chemist and klick are town, though. I wanna say pooky is town because when I did get my town read on him it was pretty strong, and I trust my gut reaction that it was a tvt between him and koba, even though his recent pressure on me rubs me the wrong way.
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Post Post #1545 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:17 pm

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In post 1543, Clover Ebi wrote:I just think Pooky is probably the scum here, they didn't really put up a fuss with me going in and now suddenly I'm on the table.
are you serious?
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Post Post #1546 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:20 pm

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we even talked about this before I put you in - the only reason I included you was because everyone else was set on you being in and we were running out of time in Day 1
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Post Post #1547 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:37 pm

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Also trying to say that scum would just do something for the sake of not making sense/bad scum play isn't really a good argument
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Post Post #1548 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:37 pm

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In post 1544, SleeperSoul wrote:. I don't know why pooky is so hesitant to accept that I was voting koba out of frustration. I wanna say that pings me as scummy,
Where did I say this? I think you have me confused with someone else here
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Post Post #1549 (ISO) » Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:38 pm

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In post 1547, Clover Ebi wrote:Also trying to say that scum would just do something for the sake of not making sense/bad scum play isn't really a good argument
it makes exactly as much sense as saying "X isn't scum because X did this thing that Scum wouldn't do if Scum were X"
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