In post 1515, Redados wrote:Sirius, what are your thoughts on Mundivore's plan? Are you going to counterclaim?
No counterclaims.
Tracker's plan says that I was the N1 target and the N2 target was Red. This makes Red, Sirius and Mundi clear.
We lim Noraa today.
We lim 72o today if Noraa isn't scum.
You're not cleared, Shelly could have made the kill and done rolecop action N1. And to be clear I will vote you off the island tomorrow before I vote 72 off.
As a Scum mindset, would you rather:
1. Risk Scum getting no kills and no checks
2. Take a 1 in 8 chance that the other scum is found
I don’t follow.
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:13 pm
by Redados
Ah I get what you’re saying. Sorry.
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:17 pm
by Noraa
Sirius I don't understand why you would agree with this plan cuz tmrw you will be limmed. And if you are a VT, now's the time to speak up. Otherwise this game, mafia is going to win after two mislims. If ur scum tho you will lim me today and try to get a 72 lim tmrw. If sirius is town, then 72 is scum. If 72 is town, then sirius is scum. This is the conclusion I've come up with and will stick with unless 72 ccs. If 72 ccs then everything mundivore said cannot be trusted and I will have to rethink everything
In post 1509, Noraa wrote:I give up and if town loses, all I have to say is : y'all deserve it for mislimming thrice(plus, shelly, and whoever y'all lynch tmrw)
typo apologies I meant (plus, me, and whoever y'all lunch tmrw
*lynch
ok im really annoyed rn
I'll check back in an hour or so
if im hammered by then, sucks to suck and that's that. I wish y'all the best of luck and hope u choose wisely tmrw
Why are you annoyed?? If we lim town!Noraa I still believe that we win the game.
dude ur whole 66% chance of winning just went down the drain but alright. 50% is not at all high imo but I mean think what u want. town's fate will be in ur hands once scum kills mundivore. you will be left with sirius and 72. I would've much preferred we found the scum today but that prolly isn't happening so all I can do is wish u the best of luck tmrw. anyways imma go break and yeah
Mundivore has laid out their info. Please explicitly say who you would like us to lim and when. After your break, def take your break.
Well if Mundivore isn't lying, then the scum must be between sirius and 72. No one knows my role except me so I cannot prove that I am not scum. The problem is that out of 72 and sirius, im not really sure which would be scum. This 50% chance is seriously risky and both are the same amount of scumminess and towniness imo. This is why I don't want to be limmed today. However I realize that my opinion doesn't mean shit here since y'all think im scum. If I was allowed to choose who to lim, I would say the limpool for today is {sirius, 72} Tmrw I would choose the limpool based off of the nka
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:24 pm
by Sirius9121
In post 1475, Mundivore wrote:Actually, I'm happy with my vote where it was. VOTE: Noraa.
I think there's a good chance town has just won. Let me explain:
I'm the Tracker. Night 1, I followed Sirius. No action—unless shelly did both actions Night 1, which risks being totally shut down by a potential Jailer, then Sirius is town. Night 2, I followed Redados. No action, so Redados is conftown. By play, 72 is very likely town.
Scenario 1: Nobody counterclaims me. This makes me conftown. We kill Noraa. If that's somehow not right... well, we'll see. It's probably 72 in this case, I think it's more likely that 72 couldn't reign in a teammate than that scum would risk getting both their kill and their rolecop read eaten by a potential Jailer. However, I'm pretty sure it's Noraa at this point—I misremembered, and thought that my Night 1 action was on 72, not Sirius, hence my not getting to this sooner.
Scenario 2: I get counterclaimed. It's 50/50 between me and the person who counterclaims. We have room for one miselim, so we just kill both and Town wins 100% of the time.
I admit that this has a failure condition, but with three FoS's on me already, I think claiming now isn't too aggressive anyways. Worst case scenario still involves dodging me getting miselim'd—the only way town should kill me after this claim is if scum counter-claims.
this is N1.
No. 1 is when Jailer ig
No.2 is Trakker ig
I still don't get it. uk what just don't explain it. in like a hot 10 minutes I'll get it
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:31 pm
by Noraa
wait so ur trying to say that scum would def split the two actions that way if shelly got nightkilled it would be fine so ur town?
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:31 pm
by Noraa
*targeted by the pr
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:47 pm
by Sirius9121
ye
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:09 pm
by Mundivore
In post 1509, Noraa wrote:I give up and if town loses, all I have to say is : y'all deserve it for mislimming thrice(plus, shelly, and whoever y'all lynch tmrw)
I mean, yeah, we would deserve it. Mislimming thrice is the only way that Town can lose, and the only way that scum can win.
Also, I agree with the logic that 72 is a lot more likely to be the scum than Sirius is. Sirius' voting was a bit fish Day1, but I can't see any scum taking a 50/50 of putting all their eggs in one basket. I feel like we deserve to lose to Scum!Sirius if he made such a ballsy move. Or if scum successfully read that I was tracker Day 1 (I made some slip-ups that I was worried gave me away).
Of course, if scum had read that I was tracker, they probably would have killed me, yeah? So I can get behind the 72 kill in general.
In post 1509, Noraa wrote:I give up and if town loses, all I have to say is : y'all deserve it for mislimming thrice(plus, shelly, and whoever y'all lynch tmrw)
I mean, yeah, we would deserve it. Mislimming thrice is the only way that Town can lose, and the only way that scum can win.
Also, I agree with the logic that 72 is a lot more likely to be the scum than Sirius is. Sirius' voting was a bit fish Day1, but I can't see any scum taking a 50/50 of putting all their eggs in one basket. I feel like we deserve to lose to Scum!Sirius if he made such a ballsy move. Or if scum successfully read that I was tracker Day 1 (I made some slip-ups that I was worried gave me away).
Of course, if scum had read that I was tracker, they probably would have killed me, yeah? So I can get behind the 72 kill in general.
welp the mislim count is about to become 2 soooooo that's fun for us
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:40 pm
by Noraa
Anyways im not sure how this is gonna all play out but im pretty sure that someones gonna accidentally hammer at this point and its prolly gonna be the vt not the scum
Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 4:46 pm
by Noraa
If I get hammered, imma be really salty about it unless town wins. but I'll still be salty - prolly a lil less tho lmao. I'm hoping for a sirius or 72 lim today bc unless 72 cc's, one of them is scum. I still have a slight TR on sirius but Mundivore I hope u realize that if there was a jail keeper, I feel like plus wouldn't have been killed bc the jail keeper, although they might not cc, will 100% give a strong strong push to the shelly wagon. So I am 100% convinced that shelly and her partner knew at that point(when they managed to get a mislim on plus) that there was a tracker not a jailkeeper. I have a TR on sirius but if ur only reason to TRing him is that, pls find something else or rethink.
Yeah I'm feeling that of [Noraa, Sirius, 72], Noraa is most likely to be scum here. Especially with how she's acting. Hopefully 72 will be able to indicate here soon whether or not he is counterclaiming.
Hi 72. I came into today prepared to ask you to post more because I'm having a hard time getting a read on you. I looked over your ISO for evidence of your supposed inactivity. Most of your posts were before PLUSjoy and Shellys' role flips, but that makes sense given the proportion of IRL days before and after that hammer.
However after looking over your ISO I am lightly townreading you. So I don't feel like I have to push you as much to share your thoughts. However I would still ask that you post more and share more thoughts today.
I would agree here bc I have a hard time putting reads together in general .... not to mention I have a worse time if they don't talk. But what I was wondering when I saw this post was : Why mundivore? A lil theory just popped up in my head and idk if it's right. it might not even make much sense but anyways here it is: so shelly was rolecop, the description of that role says that they can check people's roles. If shelly and 72 were scum and shelly used her ability, maybe they had determined that mundivore is the pr or something and now they are testing him? idk that was thought off the top of my head sooooo it might not make sense. I can try to explain it differently but that sounded about right when I read it over so ye.
Nora, if u r town I think you need to keep things a bit simpler. This is like a 1 in a 1000 theory. o.O I'm not even really sure what the purpose of said test would be / what benefits scum would get if they already knew who was the PR.
I asked mundicore on his reads because i think he is the most likely remaining scum. I wanted to see what his reads were, so that i could review if these reads were consistent drom a town or scum point of view.
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