this is true, right? so i wonder if scum are framing the pair to get lunched or going the wifom route and actually don't want us to lunch them
first impression is they don't want us to lunch them, seeing as loki/ydrasse were both townleaning yesterday. which means we should lunch them :s
but i've always been a sucker for wifom, i don't know how much i should trust myself
i mean im biased because to me "the simple and obvious plan of [winning]" is simple and obvious. but i still am all for lunching there today and then ill towncase myself/scumcase NM tomorrow. i think there are enough mechanical reasons im not scum that this is the play for the rest of you too. but i think your reasoning here is right. +ev, and then sort in me and NM.
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:06 pm
by Tayl0r Swift
ydrasse, are you scum?
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:09 pm
by Kanna
i feel like i can solve taylor.....
r u pocketing me taylor
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:10 pm
by Kanna
mostly because i don't think i can solve loki/ydrasse/n_m
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:11 pm
by Isis
I think Loki is so obvtown it doesn't add much EV to look at Ydrasse rather than NM or Swift. Especially when you consider the way the scum probably approached the WIFOM, it might even be inverted.
i like to consider wifom because for scum, it's risky to bet a game on someone calling your wifom so the safer route is to not do it. therefore, i *should* consider it.
*taps bucket*
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:44 pm
by Kanna
fmopv, it's not wise to bet the game on 2 slots rather than 1 because there's more room for error. n_m is unreadable. so solving taylor is the way to go.
i will look through her iso and give thoughts hopefully soon
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 12:46 pm
by Kanna
In post 1529, Isis wrote:Especially when you consider the way the scum probably approached the WIFOM, it might even be inverted.
although this is actually what happens most of the time
In post 1484, Loki Dokie wrote:But please ignore my entire ISO, which you clearly would have to be doing. Have you reread it? Please tell me what parts scream scum to you?
lol, those were my gut-takes coming into the day. no, i haven't done an in-depth reading yet and no, i don't think you're scummy - quite the opposite actually.
it's like you're so townie, i'm confused why you aren't confirmed, and in the case you are town and scum didn't confirm you to make us suspicious of your pair, i feel like they'd choose me for the job instead. after all, isis/drusilla, the two people who know me best among this list, were both paranoia-scumreading me and i was pushing them both for whatever reason. if i was scum, i would also confirm you every time. this situation is a strange curveball
Yeah, I agree. I apologize for getting salty with you earlier. My theory: either Tayl0r did it to make me look bad or Ydrasee is framing Tayl0r to make her look bad, because I’ve been hardpushing Tayl0r, so I suspect it’s somehow tied to that. If I were actually scum, I would never align myself with Ydrasse and not confirm her, so Dru’s theory makes way more sense if Ydrasse is scum than the converse but that is my best guess as to why it’s me specifically who was put into the unconfirmed position.
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:18 pm
by Loki Dokie
In post 1518, Isis wrote:While I was away, I wondered, what if Swift didn't confirm Loki so that we wouldn't listen to him when he tunneled Swift.
Then I wondered, did Swift really didn't know whether scum is post restricted in the scum PT.
You saw the announcement that they are post restricted in the PT, right Ydrasse?
Where is this message? I suppose that’s possible. I honestly don’t know right now but I feel pretty confident it’s not NM and as long as I’m not wrong on that, we win no matter what.
In post 818, Isis wrote:I feel worried Pooky cares about winning an argument more than being town in the argument if that makes sense, its somewhat mafia indicative
This is kind of strange. Why would it make sense for a Pooky!scum to want to win an argument? It doesn't help my position in any way - arguing is usually counterproductive to survival especially in a setting like this where it's 1 or the other.
oh yeah, i remember seeing this earlier and having what is probably a dumb thought at it but isn't the simplest answer to wanting to win an argument that... whoever you "beat" might reconsider you/etc? like, i don't get how arguing is counterproductive in the sense that it's how you like... make people reconsider you, or is at least one way and one of the most straightforward.
i don't understand how it going one way or another makes a difference?
This post should solve Ydrasse for me if I was good at mafia
I can’t even tell you wtf she’s even saying here. I actually need to understand what she’s even saying before I can begin to parse it.
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:26 pm
by Isis
drusilla does that mean you want me to stop selfvoting?
it feels good.
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2020 2:27 pm
by Loki Dokie
In post 1524, Isis wrote:solving Ydrasse wins the game.
solving Tayl0r wins the game.
solving N_M wins the game.
I don't feel confident doing any of these things but maybe Kanna or shiki will
Nothing really points to it being NM. He hammered Pooky on D1 and didn’t vote on D2. On D3, he only voted you after you scumread him and the way Pooky referenced him sounded completely neutral, so I still think he’s the least likely Pooky buddy out of the three.
