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Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:07 pm
by April Ludgate
Yeah, you are totally right, Remelia. Had that moving too fast before finishing conversation kinda moment.
We pretty much counter that apathy by creating environments now, town can take strong day action to gain reads.
Not to be LAMIST, but I am feeling so confidently town this game, I’m gonna say the cliche and go “I’m 100% dying tonight.”
I bet scum feel my hunter blood coming out hard right now. You may be fooling me now, scum, but the flavor will always follow you, ow ow ow.
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:09 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 1524, Bell wrote:....April if you say that out right you’re just saying what you think and other players compensate for that plan.
But down the rabbit hole we go when I think, “well okay they’re saying what they think, but if the scum team players around that and April knows this, then he’s just saying this to seem town by saying whatever he thinks town/town him thinks”
Yeah, that’s part of it. It’s really hilarious to think about how scum have to react to that kind of thing knowing that I know they know, ya know?
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:10 pm
by PlusJOYED
i like this play, i'm just unsure of how useful it will be for scumhunting purposes.
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:11 pm
by Bell
They’re probably just going to give you a wide berth, wait for you to possibly discredit yourself by continuing to talk like a self-help guru selling a book and your reads may or may not suffer for it.
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:11 pm
by PlusJOYED
i also think this could really be done with any player, not just muffin
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:13 pm
by zMuffinMan
heh. your view of the game state is so wildly different from mine. i sincerely doubt you're a priority night kill
and votes are hardly the only way to get reads or the only form of "direct action" lol
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:14 pm
by April Ludgate
Well, if I’m being real with you guys, since we’re having fun bonding times, I lied a bit earlier with my town block.
I don’t town read Something Smart as much as I acted, nor did I trust Remelia back then, but I added them to the town block so they would have to progress through the game with that in mind. Remelia, nothing changed, in fact, they got townier because it seemed like their personal dynamic with me did not matter one bit. Something Smart, while someone’s play I respect fully, if I was going to take the leap to risk being wrong on him, I had to do something to figure it out, ya know?
Remelia, Bell, Plus Joyed, and I are the 4 I am most comfortable calling a town block.
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:14 pm
by PlusJOYED
though I wonder if it's possible the main wagons atm are all scum, and they're waiting for a mislim wagon to start up? though that's a more optimistic line of thinking than I like
@muffin, what's your read on mariaR?
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:15 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 1530, zMuffinMan wrote:heh. your view of the game state is so wildly different from mine. i sincerely doubt you're a priority night kill
and votes are hardly the only way to get reads or the only form of "direct action" lol
This is what I like to have presented in real time. Hindsight always shows 2020 4 20
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:15 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 1532, PlusJOYED wrote:though I wonder if it's possible the main wagons atm are all scum, and they're waiting for a mislim wagon to start up? though that's a more optimistic line of thinking than I like
@muffin, what's your read on mariaR?
While not impossible, I find this highly unlikely, and thus worth keeping in mind, but not look into too deeply Day 1.
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:16 pm
by PlusJOYED
In post 1531, April Ludgate wrote:Well, if I’m being real with you guys, since we’re having fun bonding times, I lied a bit earlier with my town block.
I don’t town read Something Smart as much as I acted, nor did I trust Remelia back then, but I added them to the town block so they would have to progress through the game with that in mind. Remelia, nothing changed, in fact, they got townier because it seemed like their personal dynamic with me did not matter one bit. Something Smart, while someone’s play I respect fully, if I was going to take the leap to risk being wrong on him, I had to do something to figure it out, ya know?
Remelia, Bell, Plus Joyed, and I are the 4 I am most comfortable calling a town block.
the townblock you just made not too long ago? I don't think SS had a chance to see that it was like 10 minutes ago
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:16 pm
by zMuffinMan
she has a virtually barren ISO and could be scum
why do you think i'm asking her to talk about her reads? lol
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:17 pm
by Remilia Scarlet
Walk me through how you got to where you are on plusjoyed
I'm willing to concede I might've just taken a major wrong turn at Albuquerque on bell
What happened to Morph?
-b
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:19 pm
by Bell
I stole the walk me through thing from Bork ngl.
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:20 pm
by PlusJOYED
i could see why a dog would like to be walked
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:20 pm
by Remilia Scarlet
reading my old games too? (don't i'm terrible)
-b
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:20 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 1535, PlusJOYED wrote: In post 1531, April Ludgate wrote:Well, if I’m being real with you guys, since we’re having fun bonding times, I lied a bit earlier with my town block.
I don’t town read Something Smart as much as I acted, nor did I trust Remelia back then, but I added them to the town block so they would have to progress through the game with that in mind. Remelia, nothing changed, in fact, they got townier because it seemed like their personal dynamic with me did not matter one bit. Something Smart, while someone’s play I respect fully, if I was going to take the leap to risk being wrong on him, I had to do something to figure it out, ya know?
Remelia, Bell, Plus Joyed, and I are the 4 I am most comfortable calling a town block.
the townblock you just made not too long ago? I don't think SS had a chance to see that it was like 10 minutes ago
Nah, I made one a while ago.
And I know. He didn’t do anything I didn’t like, it’s just he didn’t do anything I did like, just because he’s been MIA. I know him well enough to know I should also not fully town read him yet.
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:24 pm
by Bell
No. I was fairly obsessed with mafia and I burned all my games I played with people into my brain from multiple post game rereads.
I liked the walk me through post you made from majiffy’s gonzo mafia game. It’s a good lead in for requesting clarity from another player or answering a question and puts me into the right mind set to see if the narrative they’re spinning makes sense.
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:25 pm
by April Ludgate
In post 1537, Remilia Scarlet wrote:
Walk me through how you got to where you are on plusjoyed
I'm willing to concede I might've just taken a major wrong turn at Albuquerque on bell
What happened to Morph?
-b
While I think Morph definitely is townie, I can see them being in that position as scum, if that makes sense. Without more info presented, it’s really easy to get into that dominating game state position, town leader, basically.
Plus had been weirdly fence sitting in a way that looks genuine because of how much they were doing it, where scum would try not to have it on blast if they were fence sitting. On top of that, they’ve seemed extremely present and trying to figure things out even if it’s not working out too well for em just yet. They may be onto something, but Day 1 is just too early to tell. Their zMuffinman scum read might be wrong, but I understand the suspicion surrounding zMuffinman in this game, and I feel Plus is picking up the same type of energy as I am and mistaking it for a full on scum read.
And that’s a townie mindset because they’re being taken on a ride, almost not able to see the strings being pulled in the background somewhere, if that makes sense.
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:27 pm
by Secret Tunnel
@cabd what did you think of marias readslist
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:28 pm
by April Ludgate
Right, Secret Tunnel’s a big scum spect too
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:28 pm
by PlusJOYED
so wait im confused and tired April
you fake TR remilla and SS a while back
remilla didn't do anything and neither did SS
because of that, you actually TR them since they didn't react? So because they didn't question you, they become town to you?
It feels like you're playing with the spotlight effect on yourself to the max; you consider all of your posts to be the centerpiece of this. That could come from town, but seems more likely to come from scum; extremely self aware.
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:28 pm
by morph the cat
In post 1531, April Ludgate wrote:Well, if I’m being real with you guys, since we’re having fun bonding times, I lied a bit earlier with my town block.
I don’t town read Something Smart as much as I acted, nor did I trust Remelia back then, but I added them to the town block so they would have to progress through the game with that in mind. Remelia, nothing changed, in fact, they got townier because it seemed like their personal dynamic with me did not matter one bit. Something Smart, while someone’s play I respect fully, if I was going to take the leap to risk being wrong on him, I had to do something to figure it out, ya know?
Remelia, Bell, Plus Joyed, and I are the 4 I am most comfortable calling a town block.
Sorry, there's a townbloc already in progress. You're still in the to-be-sorted pile.
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:30 pm
by Secret Tunnel
Have fun with that I won't be clownable by the end of today
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:31 pm
by morph the cat
I think cabd's still grilling steaks. We'll be seriously getting back to this game pretty soon.