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Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:32 am
by Theta Alpine
okay then

i am going to stop at 254 for now and post what i have because i seriously want adorable and noraa dead now

i would make this have post links but i cannot really be bothered except for the last one which is what changed my mind on reading noraa

which i am going to pull outside of the spoiler actually
if you want to read my thoughts when rereading the early game then it is in the spoiler
Spoiler:
unowen had a rvs vote on noraa that did not change and still has not changed
708 claimes to have a prior scum read on noraa but this is not clearly expressed in previous posts except possibly 298

i do not think unowen and adorable are scum together due to 298 and 1201
unowen and tayl0r could be scum together due to 1231 but this is not a strong opinion
i can see unowen being scum regardless of noraa being scum
but because of how their vote was placed i would not base my read on unowen based off of their vote on noraa


i do not think i can read lambdadelta
nor do i think i can accurately divine the reasons for any of her votes


at this point i switched from reading an iso to just reading through the game again


hopkirk had a blank vote that does not appear to be in response to anything
this is definitely only a bus if it was premeditated though in my opinion
unless it was intended as an rvs vote on a partner maybe
it is still early enough that the game felt like it could be rvs


murdercat puts a vote on noraa that appears to be in resonse to noraa flailing
this does not appear to be an rvs vote

completely off topic here but toogeloo sows the seeds of shooting anti-town and not scum in 116

pooky accuses noraa of being coached right after noraa states a town block of noraa | pooky | tayl0r
probably not in response though since those posts are a minute apart
though a hilarious thought i had is if pooky was coaching noraa here
but other then that i think if noraa is scum then pooky is probably town
depending on when her partners realized noraa is probably dying here

125 somewhere around this point in a noraa scum world her partners have probably realized it is best to let her die here

139 bell tries to shade lambdadelta here
144 pooky notices that

i am willing to say just off of that that if lambdadelta is town then bell is probably scum
because scum is absolutely going to try and get a mislynch on lambdadelta if they can
and it is early enough that this could be forgotten

149 i do like this response though

151 i could see lambdadelta and pooky being scum together though
but this could also be pooky scum and lambdadelta town for all i know
or both could be town

175 if bell is scum i would think one of these is a scum buddy
180 i am guessing pooky had the same thought and thus assumed tayl0r was scum

187 i think i may have to just admit that i probably cannot read tayl0r either
which is why my read on her is for her promoting anti-town play

190 this could be shading the people on the noraa wagon at the moment
in a world where tayl0r is scum this probably means lambdadelta hopkirk and murdercat are town

202 wait i thought bell was saying noraa was town
but the reason bell townreads murdercat here is because of the reasons murdercat states for voting noraa

i looked back and 161 is the only thing from bell that could have been construed as a townread
so i am not sure why i thought that

208 what is this even saying
if noraa is scum i really want to flip tayl0r

216 more shade thrown at lambdadelta by tayl0r this time
219 i do agree with this though

229 it has been 50 pages into the game from this and the majority wagon is still on noraa

244 adorable setting up a vote on noraa and throwing shade at tayl0r

249 oh hopkirk actually does express a scumread on noraa here

251 tayl0r
i thought you were defending noraa


this feels like it was premeditated
i mean seriously it feels like this exchange between noraa and adorable was planned out ahead of time
why is a self-proclaimed newbie attacking adorable and effectively daring them to vote themselves
and not attacking hopkirk who had placed a blank vote
or unowen who had an rvs vote

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:38 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 1525, Theta Alpine wrote:why is a self-proclaimed newbie attacking adorable and effectively daring them to vote themselves
and not attacking hopkirk who had placed a blank vote
I'm not sure I see the preplanned thing, but I do think this is interesting

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:39 am
by Flea The Magician
In post 1479, Theta Alpine wrote:i would want to see what noraa is first
In post 1510, Theta Alpine wrote:i have also stated that i will not support a wagon on you today as i want to see noraa flip first
Sounds keen to me.

You also stink of sheepdip as I'm looking at your recent ISO... which is amazing because of the "I'm not sheep!" post you made. Will check adorable out though once I've brain enough again.
In post 1502, Theta Alpine wrote:none of my votes so far have been on majority wagons
In post 1497, Theta Alpine wrote:it would take near majority of other players voting you for me to actually join in
In post 1502, Theta Alpine wrote:at the time i would have gone along with it
In post 1517, Theta Alpine wrote:if at least 5 other town players think hopkirk is scum i will join in because i do not see anything particularly townie enough to object to it
Oh and do me a favour, instead of openly declaring your fence sitting nature and laziness, form an opinion on Nora. Town or Scum. Null is a no, there's enough information out there. Will have a read on Adorable once I've mustered enough brain power to do the reading I already need to do.

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:48 am
by Theta Alpine
looks up to my previous post

well i guess i did not technically use the words that i thought noraa was scum in that post

but i think i very much said that i think noraa is scum in that post

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:49 am
by Theta Alpine
In post 1527, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 1479, Theta Alpine wrote:i would want to see what noraa is first
In post 1510, Theta Alpine wrote:i have also stated that i will not support a wagon on you today as i want to see noraa flip first
Sounds keen to me.
also

how do either of these mean i am keen on killing hopkirk today
they very much mean the opposite

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:49 am
by Zdenek
So I’ve made it to page 27. I don’t understand why anyone would want Isis dead for her posts around then.

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:53 am
by Flea The Magician
In post 1529, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 1527, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 1479, Theta Alpine wrote:i would want to see what noraa is first
In post 1510, Theta Alpine wrote:i have also stated that i will not support a wagon on you today as i want to see noraa flip first
Sounds keen to me.
also

how do either of these mean i am keen on killing hopkirk today
they very much mean the opposite
They dont, they mean you're keen on Nora's flip.

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:55 am
by Theta Alpine
In post 1529, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 1527, Flea The Magician wrote:
In post 1479, Theta Alpine wrote:i would want to see what noraa is first
In post 1510, Theta Alpine wrote:i have also stated that i will not support a wagon on you today as i want to see noraa flip first
Sounds keen to me.
also

how do either of these mean i am keen on killing hopkirk today
they very much mean the opposite
ah

i think i may have misremembered what your original question was

my original explanation of previously operating under the assumption that noraa will die today regardless of what i think about it still applies
though i suppose as of 1525 i am rather eager to see both adorable and noraa flip

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:05 am
by Flea The Magician
While Nora is doomed, I still feel its good to form an opinion. It helps others read you and your future reads. One of your reads was based on flip, which I assume now is a solid read too.

And honestly I skipped the pedits because damn this game moves fast.

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:09 am
by Zdenek
I only just realised that Owen appeared out of nowhere after I stated a scum read on him. So that’s worrying.

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:14 am
by Vaxkiller
In post 1530, Zdenek wrote:So I’ve made it to page 27. I don’t understand why anyone would want Isis dead for her posts around then.
Ooof, just join us on this page.

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:16 am
by Lapsa
VOTE: Noraa

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:29 am
by Tayl0r Swift
In post 1477, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:why do you think she's town?
isis would not have replaced out of this game had she been scum. i know its a bit unfair to use that argument, but its true.

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:32 am
by Tayl0r Swift
:lol: :lol:
In post 1485, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1480, Bell wrote:I don't agree that I was throwing shade at him. I was genuinely curious. I know that hopkirk generally knows what towncred is and how to get it and his switch in posting style is designed to get it.

....@Pooky confession: I don't think I can read taylor. But she seems to be try harding which is new and exciting to me.
tryhard taylor = scum-taylor

town taylor is a lurker who posts shitty dog pictures

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:34 am
by PookyTheMagicalBear
In post 1537, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
In post 1477, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:why do you think she's town?
isis would not have replaced out of this game had she been scum. i know its a bit unfair to use that argument, but its true.
we r not allowed to talk about replacements

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:44 am
by Vaxkiller
I have a name you know!

:)

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:45 am
by Theta Alpine
In post 1536, Lapsa wrote:VOTE: Noraa
we are not voting noraa

we are simply all agreeing that she is probably scum and will be handed the scroll at some point

who else do you think is scum

p-edit
we do not talk about the actual replacement as a way to read people
as in the act of replacing out
not the person who is the replacement

why did i explain the joke

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:46 am
by Tayl0r Swift
does anyone else feel like alpine's reads are pretty artificial?

for example he says "ever since this post i guess i scumread noraa"
a townie would say "ever since rereading i scumread noraa"

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:53 am
by Theta Alpine
In post 1542, Tayl0r Swift wrote:does anyone else feel like alpine's reads are pretty artificial?

for example he says "ever since this post i guess i scumread noraa"
a townie would say "ever since rereading i scumread noraa"
she

and there is no guessing at this point

i do not doubt my read on noraa at this point in any way

i am not going to contest it reading like it is artificial because yeah it does read like it is artificial
i wonder why i am usually mislynch bait as town

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:56 am
by Theta Alpine
i mean i actually do not really know why i am mislynch bait as town
that is just one of my guesses

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:09 am
by MURDERCAT
In post 1539, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:we r not allowed to talk about replacements
I know you keep saying this but I read the post on replacements, and it seems to have a lot more to do with players urging others to replace out, replaced out players talking about replacing out, and replaced out players continuing to post. I don't think it is against the rules for us, players in the game post replacement, to discuss it, but feel free to prove me wrong.

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:17 am
by Hectic
Titus replaces VaultDweller! Give her the welcome of warmest.

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:17 am
by MURDERCAT
Welcome Titus. You are a brave soul.

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:19 am
by Vaxkiller
In post 1541, Theta Alpine wrote:
In post 1536, Lapsa wrote:VOTE: Noraa
we are not voting noraa

we are simply all agreeing that she is probably scum and will be handed the scroll at some point

who else do you think is scum

p-edit
we do not talk about the actual replacement as a way to read people
as in the act of replacing out
not the person who is the replacement

why did i explain the joke
Why would we not vote her if we all agree she is scum? I don;t get it

Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2020 9:22 am
by Adorable
If we are not doing Noraa first then I would lean more on Unowen is scum which was mentioned earlier. And also I wanted to add on #101 what Theta said are my thoughts exactly. On #680 it looked like Isis also had the same thoughts as me and Theta which makes me think Isis is also probably town with Theta. On #708 Unowen said Isis is suspicious and I would have assumed town Unowen would have picked up on what Theta was saying on #101 and would have also assumed Isis also picked up on this too and would have leaned town on Isis. This makes me think scum did not know town were asked to confirm that scum had daytalk.

I also saw somewhere that doing this t>s>t is bad and I'm assuming town would have to pass the scroll to a town read if the first scroll is handed to a town player.