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Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:17 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 1521, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 1516, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 1507, PlusJOYED wrote:that leaves insano, gera, uwnd, or fuzzy as the 2 remaining scum slots in my book
Our poe is the same except replace fuzzy with noraa. Actually why not noraa?
Noraa was shelly and shelly was a TR, a lot more because the kill target
You killed Titus, this isn't a defense for townNoraa.

I'm probably gonna want Noraa because Nopoint goes down from a vig everytime.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:17 pm
by PlusJOYED
In post 1522, Noraa wrote:The town is a pile of garbage.
noraa I wanna TR you but you're making it hard

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:17 pm
by PlusJOYED
In post 1525, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1521, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 1516, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 1507, PlusJOYED wrote:that leaves insano, gera, uwnd, or fuzzy as the 2 remaining scum slots in my book
Our poe is the same except replace fuzzy with noraa. Actually why not noraa?
Noraa was shelly and shelly was a TR, a lot more because the kill target
You killed Titus, this isn't a defense for townNoraa.

I'm probably gonna want Noraa because Nopoint goes down from a vig everytime.
scum targeted titus too though I'm pretty sure

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:18 pm
by PlusJOYED
In post 1519, Noraa wrote:What did nopo claim again?
watcher enabler

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:20 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 1527, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 1525, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 1521, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 1516, JohnnyFarrar wrote:
In post 1507, PlusJOYED wrote:that leaves insano, gera, uwnd, or fuzzy as the 2 remaining scum slots in my book
Our poe is the same except replace fuzzy with noraa. Actually why not noraa?
Noraa was shelly and shelly was a TR, a lot more because the kill target
You killed Titus, this isn't a defense for townNoraa.

I'm probably gonna want Noraa because Nopoint goes down from a vig everytime.
scum targeted titus too though I'm pretty sure
I think that's just a guess. It's possible. I still don't think Shelly is immune from making a Titus kill, though. They were pushing her hard.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:21 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Actually, if anything, you shooting them is more of a reason against ShellyScum than Titus getting shot by scum, now that I think of it.

I think you're flipped with it.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:22 pm
by Flavor Leaf
I'm just gonna be here doing the same thing tomorrow pushing Noraa anyways.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:29 pm
by PlusJOYED
hmmm
well we are townblock team
I'll also say Noraa hasn't been ultra protown but you are right about nopoint scum. I'll shoot him tonight if we go anyone else. I just think you're biased and shelly wouldn't shoot titus. If mafia didn't shoot titus we have a doc and that'd mean insano is lying

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:37 pm
by JohnnyFarrar
I'm not much of a gummie guy, might just be old

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:41 pm
by Noraa
In post 1528, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 1519, Noraa wrote:What did nopo claim again?
watcher enabler
wait then wtf does he mean by he can semi clear mon?

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:42 pm
by Noraa
In post 1526, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 1522, Noraa wrote:The town is a pile of garbage.
noraa I wanna TR you but you're making it hard
I am aware I'm making it hard but any town that managed to no lim day one definitely is not very impressive.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:43 pm
by Noraa
In post 1529, Flavor Leaf wrote:I think that's just a guess. It's possible. I still don't think Shelly is immune from making a Titus kill, though. They were pushing her hard.
You realize that shelly is known for having an incredible scum game right?
Her scum game is not anywhere less of worthy of Don Corleone from what I've seen.

If scum!shelly gets caught so easily, why do people know her for her scum games?

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:44 pm
by Noraa
In post 1533, JohnnyFarrar wrote:I'm not much of a gummie guy, might just be old
why do you reply to my useless questions but not the useful?

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:07 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 1536, Noraa wrote:
In post 1529, Flavor Leaf wrote:I think that's just a guess. It's possible. I still don't think Shelly is immune from making a Titus kill, though. They were pushing her hard.
You realize that shelly is known for having an incredible scum game right?
Her scum game is not anywhere less of worthy of Don Corleone from what I've seen.

If scum!shelly gets caught so easily, why do people know her for her scum games?
She wasn't caught. She replaced out before people were pushing her.

And scum get scum read. I get scum read all the time as both alignments. It's how you use people's reads to your advantage that matter more.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:07 pm
by Flavor Leaf
well, she didn't replace out, but yeah

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:08 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 1536, Noraa wrote:You realize that shelly is known for having an incredible scum game right?
Also, what does this have to do with anything, I can catch any scum player, even if they're super good.

Not necessarily on Day 1, but someone being good at scum doesn't mean they are untouchable, and Shelly pocketing me is the exact type of thing I'd expect scum her to try to do.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:18 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Also, I think you throw that DC level scum player around too much. There's very few actual DC, only 1 per year.

Previous before me were Skitter, MagnaofIllusion, and Alisae, 3 players I think have a much stronger hold on the game of Mafia than Shelly does herself.

And other than that, there's only a few other people around I think scum's game are on that other level. Mastina, Wisdom, RadiantCowbells are the 3 standouts, I think RC's won it before, but not sure, not that scummies matter in the first place like that.

I just feel you throw that around specifically to try and discredit me, but like there's nobody on this planet that puts more passion and care into their scum game than I do, even if it's for learning processes. Yes, I am still actively trying to learn how to better my scum game, that's just how I see the game of Mafia in general. Also like, underestimating me in general is always fine with me, it helps me win.

I have plans for a video competitive mafia series along with cinematic video exhibition mafia games (i mean, if it goes extra well, and covid stuff leaves, f2f!), but yeah, definitely a side gig I plan to pursue when I'm older, just gotta work on my true passion stuff.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:22 pm
by Flavor Leaf
I remember some people saying that 2019 was one of my worst years on site as a scum player too (i think on a win/loss record of 10-3) which was different because the previous few years I only had 1 defeat, and sometimes 0.

I also was the Hannibal Lector the year before.

You're also assuming people have 1 style of scum play, when I have multiple different metas, and often change it up right when people think they know how I play scum.

I just don't think you understand a lot of mechanics of mafia yet, so that's why I feel you're trying to discredit me.

Trying to weaken me.

It's not a bad play, it's a solid scum play. But don't expect me not to bite back.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:23 pm
by Flavor Leaf
In post 1532, PlusJOYED wrote:shelly wouldn't shoot titus.
why?

Scum kill threats.

I abused this in the game where I hard pocketed Titus and threat killed Andres/Johnny.

I understand saying "I don't think Shelly would shoot Titus."

but saying "Shelly wouldn't shoot Titus" is factually incorrect. Shellyc is a better scum player than that.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:25 pm
by Flavor Leaf
ShellyC was also learning more about gamestate control.

Also, you killed Titus, Plus.

You might be right about Shellyc not killing Titus, but that doesn't mean they are town.

And I'm going to be pushing Noraa until she is dead.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:25 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Like, if I die, then you 100% 100% 100% fade Noraa.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:28 pm
by Flavor Leaf
@Plus - You also know from experience that my Day 2 reads are generally pretty great. I faded you on Day 2 in Ilicit Substances, then Day 3, called out Midway-Remelia as scum team before they removed me from game for 2 day phases.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:30 pm
by Noraa
Ok fine Johnny ignore my serious questions. just talk to me. IDC. ACKNOWLEDGE MY EXISTENCE :((((((((((((((
*throws a slipper at Johnny*
will u catch it or dodge?

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:32 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Pine's a step above others as scum as well.

SS/Jingle/Xtoxm/Alchemist also are all stronger scum players around than Shelly, I would say.

I think Shelly would have gotten up there had she not gotten herself banned.

Hectic's improved a lot this year as well, probably around Menalque level for me, but they both haven't been scum against me really.

I'm sure Nacho, Cabd, Ffery, Zmuffin who have been around recently have a strong scum game. I've heard stories about Nacho. MariaR. Isis.

All players I would probably have above Shelly.

I'm excited to see how Hectic does once everyone understands how he works as scum, and the reinvention that becomes necessary.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:32 pm
by Flavor Leaf
@Johnny - Can we just vote Noraa?