Mini Normal 2205: RotITGBSMoD [game over!]

[Andante]

Game is pretty tragic and I just want to move on from day 1.

Pooky
Robert
Lemons
Asteria
Osuka
Salsabil

T3

- need more. Something makes me want to say town but I can't go into this.

Andante

- claiming plausible PR for town here. Just finished a game with scum GS and I just really hate the mind set this slot has. Probably just going to be town who i can't rely on with anything but results for late game.

Andres

- during the shit show catch up from last night Andre started to look town but by the end of it I just thought that they were noise. Maybe reading last night just looks bad on people where I shouldn't but I think closer to scum.

Anya
Save The Dragons
Green Crayons

I'd rather have all reads in the green or red for tomorrow the way this game is. So hopefully this changes before. However, as I said I won't be sad if we can move on.

Feel free to question any changes I've had.

Like.. what town explains the null instead of SRs wtf??

lmao I know I did the exact same thing... but saying Andre started to look town at the end of the shitshow? I felt quite the opposite, he felt a lot scummier spending so much time on the tracker claim, and had 1 thing "STD could be scum, but tracker is the scummiest one" wasted so much time and effort on something irrelevant... idk about that... And we town lean T3 for an unknown reason? sorry, but these reads are so bad, I'm not even sure what's the intent behind them.

[Salsabil Faria]

Page 42

what do you mean i'm not fighting my wagon? i'm voting for who i think is scum and most people are still like "oh that's just pooky" ignoring the fact he has yet to do anything this entire game. people are also ignoring T3 has done nothing yet but just jump on my wagon and post nothing but STD bashing posts.

isn't it weird that both replacements haven't bothered to read the thread and instead have just decided i'm scum without much reasoning attached?

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This (2).

what do you mean i'm not fighting my wagon? i'm voting for who i think is scum and most people are still like "oh that's just pooky" ignoring the fact he has yet to do anything this entire game. people are also ignoring T3 has done nothing yet but just jump on my wagon and post nothing but STD bashing posts.

isn't it weird that both replacements haven't bothered to read the thread and instead have just decided i'm scum without much reasoning attached?

Uh Pooky was here for when I went for you yesterday, I didn't tr Haschel so that's one, I told you we are either getting Robert or you today, and you continued to push Pooky, Pawns did pretty well. I tr almost no one here, but I do tr pooky, so pooky stays, and I don't get why you are only focussed on pooky

Mention those posts where you think

PawnsGambit

did great. And it's not up to you only to eliminate anyone, if you want to eliminate anyone make a case, if you don't want to eliminate anyone make a case for that too. The rest of the town will decide then what to do or not.

Pooky's been playing mafia for longer than I've been alive and I hard tr him so I'm just going to follow unless I can see a convincing case.
pedit: I read most of the game and had a strong scumread against STD for a valid reason.

Well, what's the valid reason? If you didn't share yet, please share it now.
And someone plays mafia longer than you is a vAlId rEaSoN to townread (the other case: scumread) anyone??? What's going on in this game?????

Pooky's been playing mafia for longer than I've been alive and I hard tr him so I'm just going to follow unless I can see a convincing case.

so have i

@T3

(in case you missed this somehow).....

could you possibly see vfp bussing dragons here? since he knows dragons is going down... that's another thought I'm kinda having rn

kinda doubt it

If you flip scum, this post will be a hint of partner interaction for

VFP

.

[VFP]

but saying Andre started to look town at the end of the shitshow?

Opposite to what I said.
Nice try.

[Andante]

but saying Andre started to look town at the end of the shitshow?

Opposite to what I said.
Nice try.

haha sorry I only read the first part "Andres - during the shit show catch up from last night Andre started to look town" and went "this is shit"

my bad!

[Salsabil Faria]

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I literally am the only one trying to find scum here... whatever fck this

This behavior of yours is getting irritating! It's a team game, every person here is different than others, so their methods of playing the game will be different from each other. Please learn to respect that and if possible, get over yourself also. It's not up to you only to win the game.

Andante consistently saying she's gonna lurk or take a break yet continuing to post constantly is pretty towny

what

Amateur hour

[VFP]

feels so weird, like wtf?? are we playing reverse mafia here? trying to kill the townies?

Because scummy posters claimed GS.

[Andante]

Salsa... is your recap just bashing me? cause I'm not the elim today, so that's just gonna be wasting your time....

[Andante]

feels so weird, like wtf?? are we playing reverse mafia here? trying to kill the townies?

Because scummy posters claimed GS.

hey! that's me!!!

[Andante]

hey VFP, 1 question, why is STD scum?

[Salsabil Faria]

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so i think i need to point out that while im not saying std is scum, i definitely havent seen a very convincing case on that slot and a lot of people seem to be sheeping pooky for no apparent reason, unless i missed something big

assuming i'm wrong here, can someone elaborate on why my impression that this is a meme wagon is incorrect?

No, you didn't miss anything big, people actually are sheeping

PookyTheMagicalBear

for no reason.

Save The Dragons

's wagon is definitely not a meme wagon but I think it's a wagon leading by scums to get a miselimination by using town!

Andante

's emotion towards scum!

PookyTheMagicalBear

.

what do you mean i'm not fighting my wagon? i'm voting for who i think is scum and most people are still like "oh that's just pooky" ignoring the fact he has yet to do anything this entire game. people are also ignoring T3 has done nothing yet but just jump on my wagon and post nothing but STD bashing posts.

isn't it weird that both replacements haven't bothered to read the thread and instead have just decided i'm scum without much reasoning attached?

this typically reads like scum but this time around im somewhat inclined to agree, even in light of an extremely off-putting 1023

Why this reads like scum?

VOTE: T3

what????

Why not?

It's comments like that. I don't believe that you actually believe to be the sole player in this game looking for scum.
What happens if Robert flips TPR here?

for what it's worth this is a good post

Agreed.

or we can skip that part and kill him


or you can gimme your top pick instead

Scum post.

VOTE: T3

what????

happy to vote pooky but people seem averse to that for the following reason:

Spoiler:

?????

how am i not doing something?

lol

What exactly are you doing to hunt scum again?

[VFP]

hey VFP, 1 question, why is STD scum?

Playing for survival

[Andante]

mmk

lets see how this ends

VOTE: STD

he's now E-1

[Andante]

@whoever decides to come along and hammer, you better have a legit reason for SRing STD

[Salsabil Faria]

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can someone explain to me in excruciating detail why asteria is wolf so i can feel good about voting her

Profile pic

I didn't have a N0 meeting, I have other info, and that other info has me thinking Robert is almost surely fake, but I won't say more. I just don't think he's a town tracker

Hmmm.....

I just don't think it's smart to eliminate a claimed tracker D1. And I also think his scum partners would've 1) helped with a better crumb, and 2) told him not to claim at E-2 or whatever it was

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This (3).

I just don't think it's smart to eliminate a claimed tracker D1. And I also think his scum partners would've 1) helped with a better crumb, and 2) told him not to claim at E-2 or whatever it was

I am telling you right now, if there is 3 maf, he is not a town tracker

Well, we can sort this on Day 2. The game will not over after Day 1.

well i messed that formatting right up. should still be pretty readable

Yeah, it's readable, thanks.

is 2 maf and a traitor a valid alternative to 3 maf? it's a serious question here, and do traitors know the maf?

In normal set-ups, the usual number of scums is 3 in 13 players game. Scums can have more than 1 PR, it's normal in normal set-ups.
Generally, the traitor knows who are the scums but the scums don't know who is the traitor. But I'm not sure if a mod can change things for any particular game in normal set-ups.

SAURON IS NO TRAITOR

SAURON IS DARK LORD

"it should not be difficult for the Traitor to distinguish themselves to the scum. Just do something outrageously scummy or eye-catching for them."

this would explain your actions lmao

Town post.

[Salsabil Faria]

Page 46,47,48

Spoiler:

I messed up with the page numbers ig, sorry!

for the record since no one asked: i'm certain that pawns' replacement is due to that one random post being him accidentally outing his main and dropping the game because of it. therefore not AI

Yeah, that's a possibility.

update: I think we're dealing with a traitor in this, idk how that affects anything lol

okay so why are you so convinced that there's a traitor? we have several town pr claims and you're saying mafia has a traitor? what do you know that i dont?

I know a lot more, but outing my actual info might help maf more than town, ahhhhhh

Quoting this post to remember later.

cuz lemons and STD and GCray are the three scum

you're welcome

Why I'm not scum?

i'm just confused at this point

And I'm tired

yolo, fun fact I'm a gunsmith, but I don't give anyone guns... sad times

Hmmm..... (2)

So I know how many people "have guns" this game, but I think if I out that number it only helps scum

I'm pretty sure it's a good idea to claim this

if we're claiming how many guns we have.

I'm a town cowboy. I have two guns, I'm allowed to shoot up to two people a night or go into PGO mode and shoot two people who visit me, I'm looking for my horse who was stolen by a notorious horse-thief known as "Dutch Henry"

And here some people are calling you town

[Salsabil Faria]

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ahhhhhh osuka, should I out how many gunned members are here? idk if it's beneficial for town or will only help maf

You already told many things which you shouldn't in the 1st place, I'm getting anxious to read the rest of the pages tbh. If you didn't say anything more already, don't say another thing please, it'll help the mafia more.

whatever, there's 4 guns total this game, I have 1, and 3 others are out there, doc/traitors do not show as having guns, so at least 1 is a scum gun

so you're an informed gunsmith?

So you kill her tonight or

Robert M Hunter

?

VOTE: Crayons

I'm good with this here tbh

Reason?

how has the game become better for him linking it?

It gives a really good idea of the setup we're in?? it has a maf doc and a gs.... I was losing my mind trying to figure out the setup, he gave the link, and now I'm feeling a little better about this..
how are you looking at this so negatively?

Scums usually show that they're trying to help but they actually don't help the town, they use this strategy to get towncred or pocket someone.

n two other quick points

-roleclaiming this messily after like 5 pages of softclaiming and floundering and confusion makes it pretty much unthinkable to me that andante is being anything but genuine here. my shaky but incredibly persistent gut townread had some merit to it all along dadgummit
-cop, mafia, vig, gunsmith, etc. all have guns. given the wide range of roles that can possess guns, i don't think focusing too hard on the total number before anyone at all has flipped is going to grant us any useful setup information. i still don't truly understand why you're so convinced a traitor must be in here. again, trackers do NOT have guns, so it doesn't tell us anything about the veracity of robert's claim. why didn't you bother to verify that before going down this road?

1. I think

Andante

is town.
2. She is new and hence totally confused about the set-up.

Andante i hand this note to you

don't forget about this trap of pooky's when i flip green

my issue is, I think you're both town, thus I was voting crayons, another pooky said was scum

Got your reason, nevermind.

[T3]

I DID state my reason for voting STD.
My current solve would be Asteria STD and Robert

[Andante]

it feels suspicious that no one has shown up to hammer the E-1... Has me thinking it might actually be scum lol

[osuka]

i woke up this morning with a new perspective on life

[osuka]

the oracle has talked to me in my dreams. i have had a revelation

[osuka]

i don't know about you, but i'm ~feeling 22~
VOTE: pooky

[osuka]

gonna get to work, ill make my case as soon as possible but unfortunately duty calls

[Andante]

the oracle has talked to me in my dreams. i have had a revelation

I'd love to hear this revelation, especially since STD has been sitting at E-1, and scum hasn't shown up to hammer it, so unless all scum are already voting him, he has to flip scum?

[osuka]

i dont wanna hammer std but i will if i have to because of the deadline so you dont have to worry about a no-lynch. i dont think hes the best d1 exec

[Salsabil Faria]

Page 51,52

i'm town reading crayons atm sorry.

he's made some valid points and i've agreed with a lot of what he's saying

I'm still convinced Lemons is scum, has TMI and playing too matter of fact-ly

have you pointed out specific posts that support this?

the timing of adante's claim when she isn't exactly primed for an elim, but also it's suuuper weak and not something that would save her from an elim, doesn't strike me as a particularly smart scum play and so probably not coming from scum (~*~noobscum~*~ or otherwise)

I think I prefer Pooky town here to Dragon.

why is this an either/or?

Yeah, but I'm not seeing him as town yet, he is in my null list atm.

he's made some valid points and i've agreed with a lot of what he's saying

name one

Those points were quoted already in the post you're quoted now!!

whoa wait i just realized something called the user control panel exists.

(I need more emojies to express myself in a better way)

I’ve taken a few days off of this game mostly, but I started re-reading, and I really hate Robert hahaha and I think their claim is horrible, and the crumb makes no sense from a real PR. We should blow it up.

@osuka

, do you agree with

Andresvmb

here?

i don't understand your pooky tr

you can't even explain your SR of me.

you've literally pointed to not a single thing that's scum-indicative

I have started from page #41 today and on page #52 now, still get nothing from you which I can tell town-indicative.

what is your read on crayons

Like, crayons is just kinda there, the lines you've quoted read as TMI to me, but like, hasn't done anything to stand out, like Haschel. I just.. idk, my mind just hasn't been this lost/confused before lmao it's like, I need to ISO more people, but read wise I'm so lost

Take it as advice for future games, when you're lost on reads, don't vote anyone until you can be sure.

Look I need to really catch up and keep reading, but blowing up Pooky seems ridiculous. Who is pushing that, Save The Dragons? That’s another potential Scum. I wouldn’t listen to a word they said.

I think we caught another scum (2).

1. I never read the thread when i replace in, thats NAI

it's taking you so long to say that if you had said that posts ago i'd be happy to drop it but you didn't so hmm.

2. how am I not participating? I'm literally giving multiple scumreads and townreads and pushing for you to die cuz I think you're scum.

and you have yet to make a single case as to why

3. "yet to do anything this entire game" lol what

all you've done is make a scum team of three based on no reads, no evidence presented, so no, i don't really think you've done anything even if you'd like to pretend you have

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This (4?).