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Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:08 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1524, Nero Cain wrote:Why is it important that your reads/conversation wasn't revealed. Targeted only one person with your ability seems like a waste.
Your life is a waste.

All jokes aside, my role in general isn’t that useful.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:09 am
by Andresvmb
Simple Doctor that’s limited? What’s the point? I can’t protect anybody meaningful, and the Scum or Werewolves or whatever are almost always going to try and shoot PRs or each other.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:10 am
by Andresvmb
The whole point was maybe for me to wait, but I got impatient and I tried to slow the game down. Didn’t work.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:11 am
by Andresvmb
All I have for extra information is that humaneatingmonkey despite defending a Town execution and participating in a Werewolf execution wasn’t targeted. I think that’s amazing.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:13 am
by Andresvmb
Anyway, I misused my role a bit I concede, but I also maintain that I couldn’t be bothered with a role that’s so freaking limited.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:13 am
by Andresvmb
Could have helped win the game towards the end, but since everybody has hanged up against the Town here I very much doubt it.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:14 am
by Andresvmb
Ganged up*

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:16 am
by Andresvmb
VOTE: Nero Cain

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:19 am
by Andresvmb
In post 866, cyrus62 wrote:lol I don't know if I should vote jay or not what if they are town it's like playing in to scum? We vote off jay today and if they flip town ? Then what we vote off T3 d2 and what if they flip town by now we may have lost 3 town plus d1 so 4 town dead day 2 then 5 if t3 flip town 8 be before d3 9 left 4 or 6 scum left game over. So in going see if some one is scummyer then jay and vote them oh wait kitty for this whole plan . Looks like my votes in the right spot
Also this is plainly terrible. Or at least that’s what I have in my notes.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:19 am
by Andresvmb
No wonder both Nero and Cyrus think I’m the Scum. Ha.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:20 am
by Andresvmb
Anyway, later tonight I can finish reading if I have time. But my reads are already out there I feel. The swift D2 probably won’t change my mind too much.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:33 am
by cyrus62
Yep anders is scum or ww but I still say kitty as well I think Nero is showing good faith here.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:46 am
by Iecerint
In post 1502, Nero Cain wrote:Like I think it's p clear that Titus and arc are scum and that's where we should be eliminating in b/c if they flip different factions then I'm pretty much clear.
I don't follow the logic for Titus, or which logic makes you think this is true of Arc (like, I know why I think it, but I'm not sure why you do).

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:47 am
by Iecerint
In post 1517, Nero Cain wrote:Calling you on your bullshit is a thing and bullshit from Titus is scum titus
OK.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:49 am
by Iecerint
In post 1522, Andresvmb wrote:I voted for Gamma because of how they defended Elsa Jay - I would have done the same in almost any circumstance, because I felt that was particularly incriminating. I feel Iecerint and cyrus62 fit a bit of the same bill. And I found them somewhat Scummy for other reasons.
Why did you think I was scummy re: "other reasons"?

IIRC in your N1 you said that you only thought I was scum with Dan, who you said you thought was town, which didn't make much sense.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:52 am
by Iecerint
It's true that Andres (and I) joined the game to play with Dan. I doubt he would kill Dan if scum in this situation (like, I'd suspect he wants to play with Dan more than he wants to win, even if scum), though he could be on whichever team didn't kill Dan.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 11:55 am
by Almost50
In post 1519, Andresvmb wrote:I am, aside from being a Neighbor that apparently can’t trust my neighbors from keeping our conversations inside of that thread without pasting them directly (who doesn’t actually know that’s a rule in a bloody Mafia game?), a 2-Shot Simple Doctor.
In post 1520, Andresvmb wrote:The reason I’m revealing this now is because, as you might have guessed, I’ve used both shots protecting humaneatingmonkey both nights. I thought they were obvious Town at first, but for
some
reason I can’t figure out, they weren’t shot at. We know this because, well, 2 players have died every night.
In post 1521, Andresvmb wrote:I think that’s fascinating. Obviously I caught some of the softs so I didn’t protect Dan even though I was pretty sure they were Town (you can see my reads N1 already).
In post 1522, Andresvmb wrote:I voted for Gamma because of how they defended Elsa Jay - I would have done the same in almost any circumstance, because I felt that was particularly incriminating. I feel Iecerint and cyrus62 fit a bit of the same bill. And I found them somewhat Scummy for other reasons.
I thought all this was good posting (and I buy the claim since we don't have a protective per se, unless you count the protective part of the JK).

However; as I turned on to the next page I read:
In post 1526, Andresvmb wrote:Simple Doctor that’s limited? What’s the point? I can’t protect anybody meaningful, and the Scum or Werewolves or whatever are almost always going to try and shoot PRs or each other.
Well, isn't that a bit contradictory to your 1520?? I mean, you targeted HEM because you (a) thought he was Town and (b) hoped he was Vanilla. Yes? You explicitly said you thought he was Town, and your role cannot protect PRs anyway.

And you believe Scum are either targeting each other or are shooting down PRs (and judging by the flips it does look like they are indeed hunting down our PRs).

The question is: Why would it surprise you that someone you guessed was a VT was not shot by "PR-hunting-Scum"??

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 1:52 pm
by Dunnstral
I believe that claim

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:21 pm
by Testarossa
I think the role might thematically fit in, less for being a protective though.

I am inclined to agree with the theory of the hood containing two scum, just because the hood doesn't felt that townie yet, Andres aside who just had been missing out so far. If the hood contains two scum I am inclined to believe that this makes A50 most likely town as there isn't really a plausible reason to reveal a hood with your partner in it in a multiball scenario.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:57 pm
by Iecerint
"Simple" seems very weak in this set-up given the flips and claimed roles so far, especially with limited-shot being added.

With the knowledge that the neighborhood exists, I think A50's behavior is null (unless the neighborhood is all town, and then his prior probability of being town is low, anyway). This is because scumA50 would already be aware of the neighborhood and would have the information necessary to play this out.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 2:59 pm
by Iecerint
Wait, I take that back. It does make sense with this set-up.

I've never played with this modifier before and I read a little more of the wiki about it.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:00 pm
by Iecerint
But that's a horseton of investigative power for town.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:01 pm
by Iecerint
Oh wait nevermind, doctor wouldn't apply, so it's very weak again.

My imagination went wild on it being a faux-investigative role.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:20 pm
by Sirius9121
Official Vote Count


Titus
(3): cyrus62, Testarossa, Nero Cain
Nero Cain
(3): Titus, ArcAngel9, Andresvmb
ArcAngel9
(1): Iecerint
cyrus62
(1): humaneatingmonkey

Not Voting
(3): Psyche, Dunnstral, Almost50

With 11 alive, it 6.

Posted: Sun Jul 11, 2021 3:27 pm
by Almost50
I sure hope Psyche intends to post this day phase