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[ShadowGirl]

DkKoba, it's not that you didn't utilize your role well, but that we're all playing a (reasonably) friendly team game and that we don't need to get into personally attacking people. I know you feel like you personally solved the game but everyone is still allowed to have their own opinions/methods of playing and not to get into implying people play trash games.

I'm also going to go to bed, but since scum has been fairly obviously caught:

Vote: Dwlee99

I believe that's E-2.

[Roden]

VOTE: Dwlee

[Dwlee99]

Why do I enter this day setting up a 1v1 with Koba by accusing them of lying

[Dwlee99]

It wasn't even accusing, if I lied about what happened in the hood overnight then they would immediately call me out on it. Go on Koba, explain what you said to me overnight in great detail

[Dwlee99]

Meanwhile Koba is once again getting me mislimmed in the exact way they have multiple games. I can link this exact bullshit and bluster that Koba is pulling happening while I point out how Koba is scum only for me to get mislimmed

[humaneatingmonkey]

UNVOTE:

go case and link

[humaneatingmonkey]

i dont want to end this day without having any extended conversations with tictac, enchant, chaosomega, and NK15,

[humaneatingmonkey]

also like

investigative
doctor
mason

these are all out in the open

still want a massclaim NK15, why?

[Roden]

VOTE: Enchant

Just realized the issue with our current assumptions. If Koba actually is a Traitor, they actually gain a lot by faking a guilty on Dwlee. They essentially get to kill the Doc and send the main scum team to MELO for free. Koba getting caught lying doesn't matter if the scum team end up in MELO regardless, especially since all of the attention at that point has just been on Koba/Dwlee for two days straight, and scum doesn't have to build associatives or pretend to solve during that time.

[humaneatingmonkey]

attaboy

[humaneatingmonkey]

VOTE: Enchant

[Roden]

Also, both of their roles are weird. Why does town have a Rolecop instead of a PT Cop or Traffic Analyst in this set up? And what exactly is a Simple Doctor supposed to do when we have four people in hoods and two Masons? Even if everyone else is a VT, that only leaves six viable protection targets.

[humaneatingmonkey]

keep your brain churning

[Enchant]

Oh i am also in this game.

Hey!

[Enchant]

I had history with Dwlee99 fakeclaiming from start of game as mafia, so i am not really surprised.

[Enchant]

@Roden: I'm trying to think of why DkKoba would serve themselves up as (almost guaranteed to be) one of two people who will be voted out today, or if Dwlee flips town, that they would be certainly voted out tomorrow, come up with something else that doesn't paint a guaranteed target on their back, or do easier pushes on others (barring both DkKoba and Dwlee are scum together and DkKoba wants to get themselves confirmed from this Day). Coming into this Day, DkKoba wasn't likely to be on the list of easy chopping block choices (compared to first instance, lurkers, or Gamma/Enchant, or even HEM possibly still being a play).

There is an explanation.
That koba

cannot endgame

. That koba is a traitor.
The correct mechanical play if we cannot identify the scum is to lim koba. Koba can be a traitor. Dwlee is confirmed not traitor.
If we are wrong on koba we can at least lim one main scum. The other way around things look bleaker.

What we must do this day is to NOT end it quickly but to intensly question both players in this 1v1 about many things, especially about what happened in their hood.

Most idiotic thing in this thread.

[humaneatingmonkey]

make us townread you Dwlee

[Not Known 15]

@Roden: I'm trying to think of why DkKoba would serve themselves up as (almost guaranteed to be) one of two people who will be voted out today, or if Dwlee flips town, that they would be certainly voted out tomorrow, come up with something else that doesn't paint a guaranteed target on their back, or do easier pushes on others (barring both DkKoba and Dwlee are scum together and DkKoba wants to get themselves confirmed from this Day). Coming into this Day, DkKoba wasn't likely to be on the list of easy chopping block choices (compared to first instance, lurkers, or Gamma/Enchant, or even HEM possibly still being a play).

There is an explanation.
That koba

cannot endgame

. That koba is a traitor.
The correct mechanical play if we cannot identify the scum is to lim koba. Koba can be a traitor. Dwlee is confirmed not traitor.
If we are wrong on koba we can at least lim one main scum. The other way around things look bleaker.

What we must do this day is to NOT end it quickly but to intensly question both players in this 1v1 about many things, especially about what happened in their hood.

Most idiotic thing in this thread.

It is not, what makes you say that?

[Not Known 15]

@koba
@dwlee
You need to tell us, without falling afoul of the mafia rules, as precisely as allowed,

what

happened in the thread and on which

date

(e.g. April the 1st).

[Enchant]

You suggesting to kill investigator on off chance on him being traitor.

[humaneatingmonkey]

how about we flip enchant and leave the question of both person's alignment to night 2's mercy? especially since enchant has declared a hard stance on koba vs dwlee (siding with koba). what's the worst thing that could happen?

[humaneatingmonkey]

NK15, your massclaim time is here.

[Enchant]

how about we flip enchant and leave the question of both person's alignment to night 2's mercy? especially since enchant has declared a hard stance on koba vs dwlee (siding with koba). what's the worst thing that could happen?

Um.

I flip town, Roden dies, and you stuck with same situation, but with one less elim?

[NorwegianboyEE]

[3] Dwlee99: DkKoba, marcistar, ShadowGirl
[2] Enchant: Roden, humaneatingmonkey
[1] DkKoba: Dwlee99

[4] Not voting: tictac, ChaosOmega, Enchant, Not Known 15

With 10 players alive, 6 votes are needed for an elimination.

D2: deadline: (expired on 2022-04-08 13:15:24)

[humaneatingmonkey]

I flip town, Roden dies, and you stuck with same situation, but with one less elim?

yep.

you're a slot i think will flip scum tho.

why should i townread you?