LOST (Game Over)

[RH9]

I wonder if people knew my main would that change player’s opinions on me?

It depends.
If I know you from somewhere, then maybe yes. Otherwise, I can't say if it would or would not.

[ProfessorDrapion]

I just feel like sometimes if I push too hard people can view it as a tunnel and won’t follow.
So.

[Bell]

I wonder if people knew my main would that change player’s opinions on me?

I'm not gunna blacklist you, I've tolerated this before. I'm okay with accepting the behavior in non-newbie games but own opinion isn't even one about ego. it's simply pointing out that mathematically it wasn't a good play. I understand you value performance and quality of play and I engaged you from the perspective of someone concerned with that. You stated you outted scum after the play (Nancy and Noraa?) but as mentioned, it was just a subjective opinion based off of some assumptions which turned out to be wrong. Which makes sense to me, since there isn't much like evidence to support the assumptions. If your goal is to be a good player, level-headed play and objectively evaluating the risk you take on with each action or decision you make, seems like a good approach to me. I could be wrong though. I'm not a very good mafia player myself.

[Bell]

It's not a hard math problem.
It's not basic, but like. It's not rocket science either.

[Bell]

oh, you guys are talking about the best bird thing.
I keep writing something that can be chalked up to "I hope they said it from an emotional place and aren't going to act on that"
even though it's tricky to enforce.

Like, imagine you were looking forward to a D&D game and the DM really doesn't like you so they go out of their way to make your experience miserable.
Don't do that to others, golden rule, treat others how you want to be treated, be nice to people, understand that everybody has their own histories and experiences etc, etc.

[Frogsterking]

I wonder if people knew my main would that change player’s opinions on me?

[Lukewarm]

Damn mafia prob would have lost then? I guess that's the thing with massive games, harder to keep track of things for players and mods

I think me around for another day or two would have changed a lot.

Hard to tell what ifs.

It’s a weird situation all around.

I know that it is hard to imagine what all would have gone differently if Taly had been hammered with Bell's 6842 -- But I don't think that it would have actually bought you much, if any, time. The hammer happened before you made any of the posts that made you look unpartnered with Taly, so if it had locked up then those would never have come.

That being said, you did a great job of not looking partnered with Taly there!

[Lukewarm]

@Drap -- just wanted to also throw my two cents into the ring on your fake guilty.

You seem to think that the scum team having to kill someone other then you is a +town scenario, but turning your own death from a night kill into a day kill is -town. Scum kills always land on town. Day Eliminations are the town's only chance to kill scum.

• You moved the scum kill from townie A (you) -> townie B,
  And then the day Elimination form Maybe Scum -> Yourself, guaranteed town from your POV.

You deprived the town of a possible scum elimination by making yourself be eliminated. And you seemed to think that it outed Nancy as a wolf, but that was even proven false, so the benefit you thought you got was not even real.

Just... push C/G next time. Like, they were fairly likely to have died then anyways lol

[Lukewarm]

Protection on me tonight please.

Doc on me baby, time to carry this game.

As a small note, posts like this on day 1, when you are very unlikely to be the night 1 elimination, can definitely contribute to you getting roleblocked night 1.

The moment you claimed to be blocked night 1, I remembered these posts lol.

[Cephrir]

Faking guilties is bad especially if you're wrong why are we debating this

[Lukewarm]

(Because he still said it was good in the dead thread, even after both the C/G flip and his own miselim, which I had just read lol)

[Lukewarm]

@Bell

Spoiler:

what are players you definitively townread?

Probably

CSF, Dwlee, Roden. Luke

.

Nancy

just below.

pooky

below that. Currently. But I tend to change on a dime with that one.

Klick

far below that but still in town read land. Sort of.

I think it would be worthwhile to try to sort

PD

. Right now I lean town based on approach but it’s hard to sort the hyper competitive ones.

100% accurate day 1 town reads.

Much impressed.

[MathBlade]

(Because he still said it was good in the dead thread, even after both the C/G flip and his own miselim, which I had just read lol)

I don’t think he was ready to hear it. It will only work to help him when he’s ready

I hope butterflies flipping town helps him.

And as for that, maybe Taly flipping then changes things. But I would also get two days to recouperate from covid and maybe I don’t suck as bad and maybe Bella isn’t guiltied,

It’s too hard to tell with what ifs so unless I can learn from it I try not to focus on it.

[MathBlade]

@Bell

Spoiler:

what are players you definitively townread?

Probably

CSF, Dwlee, Roden. Luke

.

Nancy

just below.

pooky

below that. Currently. But I tend to change on a dime with that one.

Klick

far below that but still in town read land. Sort of.

I think it would be worthwhile to try to sort

PD

. Right now I lean town based on approach but it’s hard to sort the hyper competitive ones.

100% accurate day 1 town reads.

Much impressed.

Definite props

[Lukewarm]

(Because he still said it was good in the dead thread, even after both the C/G flip and his own miselim, which I had just read lol)

I don’t think he was ready to hear it. It will only work to help him when he’s ready

I hope butterflies flipping town helps him.

And as for that, maybe Taly flipping then changes things. But I would also get two days to recouperate from covid and maybe I don’t suck as bad and maybe Bella isn’t guiltied,

It’s too hard to tell with what ifs so unless I can learn from it I try not to focus on it.

Ah.

When I read your comment on the Day 1 elim, I jumped to the conclusion that you thought your distancing from Taly would have bought you a few days in the thread, similarly to how people wanted to townbin Taly after your flip, and I realized that the hammer actually came before all of that distancing.

If that was not your intent, feel free to ignore

[Lukewarm]

if Taly had been hammered with Bell's 6842

Also @bell, you did an accidental hammer this game

[MathBlade]

(Because he still said it was good in the dead thread, even after both the C/G flip and his own miselim, which I had just read lol)

I don’t think he was ready to hear it. It will only work to help him when he’s ready

I hope butterflies flipping town helps him.

And as for that, maybe Taly flipping then changes things. But I would also get two days to recouperate from covid and maybe I don’t suck as bad and maybe Bella isn’t guiltied,

It’s too hard to tell with what ifs so unless I can learn from it I try not to focus on it.

Ah.

When I read your comment on the Day 1 elim, I jumped to the conclusion that you thought your distancing from Taly would have bought you a few days in the thread, similarly to how people wanted to townbin Taly after your flip, and I realized that the hammer actually came before all of that distancing.

If that was not your intent, feel free to ignore

It was my intent

But right around that time was when I had covid hard. I never could get back to reading and I was drowning 90% of the time.

I still think Taly would buy me time regardless of flip because either A) distance or B) more mental acuity/health hopefully

[Cephrir]

(Because he still said it was good in the dead thread, even after both the C/G flip and his own miselim, which I had just read lol)

I mean sure but everyone besides him knows that's a terrible take

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Next time I’ll jailkeep Better!

except I won't but yeah

[marcistar]

spain but s is silent

[Bell]

@Bell

Spoiler:

what are players you definitively townread?

Probably

CSF, Dwlee, Roden. Luke

.

Nancy

just below.

pooky

below that. Currently. But I tend to change on a dime with that one.

Klick

far below that but still in town read land. Sort of.

I think it would be worthwhile to try to sort

PD

. Right now I lean town based on approach but it’s hard to sort the hyper competitive ones.

100% accurate day 1 town reads.

Much impressed.

2 of those were claimed masons. lol

[Bell]

if Taly had been hammered with Bell's 6842

Also @bell, you did an accidental hammer this game

I did it again.

[Lukewarm]

So I went to check if the night Malcolm was jail kept, if he actually did the kill or of scum tried to kill drap. And...

Lmao

Night 6 Actions

Killing

---

kills no one (no action submitted by mafia

)

Investigative

Locke (Professor Drapion) Tracks BBT (visited professordrapion)

Protective

Jack (BBT) protects profdrapion

Misc

Ana Lucia (CSF) JKs MalcomTucker

Not Used

Daniel (Off The Hook)

[Nancy Drew 39]

The reason Drap couldn’t get a guilty was because scum had Yeet do most of the kills.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I just feel like sometimes if I push too hard people can view it as a tunnel and won’t follow.
So.

Well if they had it would have resulted in our being miselimmed. Even in dead thread everyone in there was telling you I was town and you couldn’t see it I think even after Noraa slipped I was town.