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Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:29 pm

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Om of the Nom wrote:Nope, I have elaborated throughout the game. You are deliberately omitting where I have to make me look like scum.

Liar, I did a search of my name through all of your posts and I came up only in those posts where you talked about me. You were conveniently too lazy to look though, funny
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Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:32 pm

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Spoiler: And you said I don't explain anything.
Om of the Nom wrote:Nope.
Here, let me bold it for you.
Om of the Nom wrote:
Darkling_Perhaps wrote:And that's about it for now. No strong reads,
I'm just waiting for scum to slip up
so we can hang a noose around them.

Lol.
VOTE: Darkling_Perhaps

Notice how he isn't doing the townie thing and taking action? He's much more content lazing around and letting others do all the work.

Om of the Nom wrote:Morton's post just then looks terribly scummy. Though it may just be me.

It reads to me like he's saying "Hey look at me, I appear to be confident in Troll being scum. I'm not actually saying much about why he is but I'll say some stuff and make it sound incriminating."
Then he wagon hops.

This Troll wagon needs to die. He's town.

Om of the Nom wrote:@MattP: Why not?
To me you sound like you believe your reads, plus my gut has been calling you town this whole time.

Om of the Nom wrote:@MattP:Yep, those cases please.

@Chrimi: I already explained both of DP and Morton, you're just gut.

Om of the Nom wrote:BTW, to add to my Dark case, notice how he needed to be pushed before he was able to list all his reads? And when he finally did list them, his main scumreads were lurkers.

Om of the Nom wrote:
Darkling_Perhaps wrote:
Om of the Nom wrote:BTW, to add to my Dark case, notice how he needed to be pushed before he was able to list all his reads? And when he finally did list them, his main scumreads were lurkers.

And how exactly is that scummy?

Because needing to be pushed to give reads = having to make up reads to avoid suspicion.
Making your scumreads the lurkers = Making it viable to hop on lurker wagons without having to put too much effort into finding the real scum.
Mortontfrh wrote:
Om of the Nom wrote:Morton's post just then looks terribly scummy. Though it may just be me.

It reads to me like he's saying "Hey look at me, I appear to be confident in Troll being scum. I'm not actually saying much about why he is but I'll say some stuff and make it sound incriminating."
Then he wagon hops.

This Troll wagon needs to die. He's town.


How is pointing out the fact that he's posturing scum hunting not actually saying much about why he's scum?
Because the way you did it made it look like an excuse to jump on his wagon.


Om of the Nom wrote:@Dark: I don't care if you said you didn't have reads. You should have reads no matter what. I can have reads by the first page, doesn't mean they are good ones. You just made excuses to not have any.
Are you really pressuring and asking questions about your scumreads? I don't see you doing anything of the sort. You keep complaining that you are doing it and that I'm wrong but I see no evidence of that.
I am in a mad bid to get you lynched D1 because you are scum.
I am doing tons of scumhunting because I'm pressuring my scumreads.

Om of the Nom wrote:
kondi2424 wrote:
kondi2424 wrote:I'd be okay if you were responding to anything I said.

VOTE: BK

I admit, recently my gut has been going off on BK, so I approve of this vote.

Om of the Nom wrote:Sorry, can't explain the gut reads any further. Just learn to trust my gut, it's really awesome.

Om of the Nom wrote:BTW, Psyche is in no way playing to his scum meta. He is probably the towniest person in the game IMO, especially considering I don't see Psyche-scum making a move that ballsy in regards to claiming.

PEDIT: Hey man, that's mah style.

Om of the Nom wrote:I honestly wouldn't be surprised if I end up dead tonight. After all I'm basically the person who isn't clouded by WIFOM but is recognized as town by most of the people in this game.

Om of the Nom wrote:Alright, personal experience with Psyche scum in at least two games means I have a pretty decent feel for his scum meta, and right now I'm getting that feeling.
However vivi's claim seemed to be in an odd spot. It was highly unprovoked, yet as someone (I think Chrimi or kondi) pointed out, it meant there was more option for a CC to happen. I think vivi-scum would know that and avoid claiming then. But lastly the sudden morton hammer makes me think he was trying to end the day as fast as possible before the real FH got in and claimed.
Psyche appears to be town without taking the claim into thought, however in my experience with him I found him to be town even though he was scum, so I can't trust him at all. I'd advise all of you not to trust him either, as I sense a scum motivation within his latest posts.
Vivi also appears to be town without taking the claim into thought, and I'm more confident in vivi town that I am in Psyche town, because vivi isn't playing to the scum meta that I know from him.

Om of the Nom wrote:Well you vote means nothing.
Your PL'ing obv town which isn't in town's best interest.

Om of the Nom wrote:I think vivi-scum would have known it was a risky move to claim then, which leads me to believe vivi is town. Psyche's claim was also highly unprovoked, and happened after basically everyone said no more claims.

Om of the Nom wrote:GUYSGUYSGUYSGUYSGUYSGUYSGUYS. I PROPOSE A VENMAR/TROLLIE/KONDI SCUMTEAM. TROLLIE'S CASE ON KONDI LOOKED LIKE A BLANTANT BUS. HOWEVER I AM STILL NOT THAT CONFIDENT IN KONDI SCUM UNLESS WE GET A TROLLIE SCUMFLIP.
GUNNY I SAY YOU SHOULD INVESTIGATE EITHER ONE OF KONDI OR TROLLIE.

Om of the Nom wrote:So here are all the comments between Trollie and Venmar. I'll expand on why I quoted them in my next post, just wanna get this out here right now.
TheTrollie wrote:
MattP wrote:It basically can prevent mislynches and greatly hinders the mafia by making their vote less powerful.


yeah but at the same time it seems to me like if you think the ppl in the bloc are town, and everyone does, they wont get voted for anyway...idk still seems dumb to me...

Venmar wrote:Making a random list of most likely random people is just kind of weird to me, as some of those
could be your scum buddies.


could be your scum buddies? are you implying you know kondi (or someone else in there) is scum?

Venmar wrote:Ok, here are my quick reads:

Town

- Venmar
( Im town )
- Morton
( Hasn't given off a single mafia vibe for me. This isn't much but his play seems more townish than scummish. )
- Psyche
( Doesn't strike me as a scummy player. His absence at first seemed like lurking, but he has returned with plenty of decent and good content )
- Mattp
( He has been doing a lot of scum hunting lately and has been pressuring others greatly. Looks very townish to me. Regardless of how hard he is trying to tunnel me.. )

Neutral / Null

- DmrShotgun
( I am very null about shotgun. I can't seem to decide if his claim is legit or not. Until someone can help me decide if his claim can be trusted or not, i will stay null about him. Seeing shotgun wasn't REALLY pressured into claiming, his claim is a bit harder to believe. )
- Kassadin
( Very unreadable for me. I can lean town but he hasn't been posting enough nor giving much content in his posts. This makes him hard to read for ME. So i am neutral with Kass. )
- Om Nom
( Seems very energetic with his posting. Not sure if this is a hyper mafia or just a energetic personality. Semi-tunneling into Dark also seems kind of weary. But none of this really makes me suspicious enough of him to list him as mafia. So i am null here.. )
- Vijay
( Seems to be trying to scum hunt some people. Though i don't agree with some things, his posts are generally well spirited and fairly pro-town. However i am not sure if i can list him as a Townie just yet, nor mafia. )

Possible Mafia or Scum

- Darkling
( His post about saying lurkers are scummy so early in the game just set off plenty of alarms in my head. Compared with my post about Psyche, his is much worse. I only tried to pressure Psyche into talking, Dark outright said he was scummy for lurking. )
- BK-201
( I cant decide, but he seems to ignore or forget about questions aimed at him and it kind of makes him look like a scum trying to avoid further suspicion. I cant really say though, but out of all others BK seems to be more scummier than those below and most of the above. Further more, his justification for why Kondi could be a bad town is very insulting. I don't think current behavior should be based off of play records. Its easy for others to say your a bad town simply for not playing the game before. Im calling you out scummy just for that. However, in my previous off site game BK played somewhat well as a cop, but from my experience BK does not lie unless he is scum. For the time being, sticking with a possible scum read. )

Limbo ( Not sure if Mafia or Townie )

- Kondi
( You know, i am leaning scum just for the bloc at the beginning of the game, but at the same time i kind of believe him that it could have been a bait trying to arouse reactions from others. His further activity in this game has been promising, so i doubt he is mafia because making that bloc would have been a fairly dumb mafia move. Seeing as Kondi doesn't strike me as a bad player, i doubt that it was scum mistake. )
- Trollie
( His large disapproval of the Voting Bloc is very edgy for me. I think he could be a scum trying to prevent us townies from forming a bloc, which could actually help us get scum. Naturally, i feel like mafia members would try and prevent blocs to stop the town from organizing themselves to beat the mafia. Then again his suspicions for a bloc seem somewhat solid, as mafia members sneaking into blocs is always a possibility. I have a very un decided opinion on Trollie. )
- Chrimi
( In post 480, he exactly quotes " Neither of you claim,
we don't want scum knowing who another of my faith healer is
." Tell me what you guys think of what he said here. He could be saying he is a faith healer or just talking to the town in general. Him asking for the faith healer(s) is kind of a scum move in my opinion, as at this point the faith healers definitely should not claim ANYTHING regarding their role. This, coupled with my weird gut feeling on Chrimi and what others have said, i cannot decide if he is Town or Maf. )

Well there's my reads on people. Nothing is set in stone, and i am more than happy to answer any questions aimed at me.

TheTrollie wrote:
Darkling_Perhaps wrote:To explain about shotty: You say he changed his story about the voting block. I see it as he revealed information. At first before he knew it was fake he said it would help town. After he found out it was fake he said he assumed it was made to help town by lynching kass. I don't see any conflicting information there.


thank you. this is the first time anyone has given an alternate reason for his behavior...

not sure if shot is telling the truth but seems likely…not worth killing the cop if he is so I’ll drop it for now (idk his play style, but role claiming at this point seems pretty silly. I know he apologized, but, for people who have played with him before: is that role claim out of character?)

Reads


Town:

Om

Vij

MattP


leaning town

Kondi
– I see a lot of scumhunting, he’s been going after multiple people and has follow-up questions to a lot of people’s interactions.
Kass
– I don’t know anthing about him, but you guys have made good points for why he’s probably town in this game due to the way he is posting compared to how he usually posts.

Null

Shot
– claim of dr. moves him to null. I still don’t like how aggressive he was against me when he wasn’t doing anything to answer my questions about him.
Psyche

Dark

Venmar
– his posts are very wishy washy but at the same time he is generally encouraging scum-hunting. I just wish he encouraged it less and did it more. Also his response to Matt’s attack is very weird—he thinks matt is talking about psyche. He’s probably fine but I want to keep watching him.

leaning scum

Morton
– bad vibe…he attacks me for not scum hunting based on a post that was clearly me being a smart-ass
Chrimi – the role fishing was scummy, but he was trying to deal with a pretty tough situation (finding a way to save our potential cop) so I’m not ready to pull the trigger on this yet.

Scum

BK
– spends a lot of the game trying to get us off the scumhunting path and onto Kass. After claiming he will replace out if we do not lynch kass he changes his vote to shot because of a scumslip. He is very much against anyone else voting for someone other than kass if they feel someone is scummy, however.


On another note I am sorry for flipping you off Om, that was wrong of me. However, I was trying, in my own ass-holish way, to get you and others to focus more on THIS game and less on the out-of-game discussion. Didn’t mean to piss you off.

TheTrollie wrote:
Venmar wrote:^ Shot claimed cop.. not dr. Are you actually reading the thread or is this a mistake?

Could you possible explain why you think Dark is null, and why is Om town?


TheTrollie wrote:Shot – claim of dr. moves him to null. I still don’t like how aggressive he was against me when he wasn’t doing anything to answer my questions about him.


Sorry..didn’t mean to make that confusing..i meant claim of dr (drmyshot) not claim of dr (doctor role)

Will post my reasons on dark and om when I get a chance. Likely later tonight unless I decide to procrastinate more before then.

Venmar wrote:@Trollie

You have the time to read over the whole thread to make a vote count but not to explain your reads on Om and Dark?

TheTrollie wrote:@venmar: can you explain your change of hart on kondi?

TheTrollie wrote:agh...now i dont know what to do. I don't like what I'm seeing from either of these guys:

kondi2424 wrote:@Trollie's case: Notice that vijay ALSO mentioned the FH's CCing in his post. That's why I unvoted, not because Kassadin could be investigated.


this is a non-answer. it gets rid of one of the three position swaps at the very best. worse though, is that i find it to be
yet another
instance of backtracking. you did not mean FH CCing when you unvoted.
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vijay2vasandani wrote:
kondi2424 wrote:By the way, MattP townslipped.

Hmmmm.. XD just kidding.

1 for 1 is always good imo, even if we lose our cop. But seriously, this claiming. *sigh* might as well say it, I'm a Faith Healer as well.

All other FHs should claim now.


We aren't PLing today guys. Let shotgun sort that out for us. Once Kass is conftown/scum we can let scum nightkill him or we can lynch him.


kondi2424 wrote:Good call, vijay. UNVOTE:


only valid interp is that you are saying good point on the kass thing. (a) why would u be saying "good call" to the line "all other FHs should claim now." (b) you go from that directly into unvoting so it stands to reason that you are talking about his point on kass

now you are backtracking again saying that you never changed your mind because you wanted to wait for shot to investigate. That is not in line with what i see here.

@kondi: also, you didn't answer: what made your read on me change?

but, at the same time:

Venmar wrote:I had a unsure read. I can't call him town nor mafia because i am unsure!! How hard is this to understand..


(a) "I had an unsure read" -- re-read the posts matt quoted. you called kondi "clearly not scum," and "leaning scum" that is not an unsure read.
(b) you did call him town AND mafia so i dont get why your response is you can't call him town nor mafia
(c) very defensive -- "how hard is this to understand"

eh...now i dont know which to pick...

TheTrollie wrote:how many votes is that on ven?

TheTrollie wrote:i'm pretty convinced by all of this "turtle" nonsense

UNVOTE: kondi
VOTE: venmar

TheTrollie wrote:no one else thinks venmar's BK comment deserves discussion?

Om of the Nom wrote:Alright, so this is why I think they are scum together. First of all, they rarely mention each other, which strikes me as them trying not to be tied together in case one of them flips scum.
TheTrollie wrote:
Venmar wrote:Making a random list of most likely random people is just kind of weird to me, as some of those
could be your scum buddies.


could be your scum buddies? are you implying you know kondi (or someone else in there) is scum?

This is a really weak attack from Trollie, it looks like a weak bus to me. Also the mention of kondi specifically instead of someone else leads me to think he's also the other scumbuddy.
Venmar wrote:Ok, here are my quick reads:

- Trollie
( His large disapproval of the Voting Bloc is very edgy for me. I think he could be a scum trying to prevent us townies from forming a bloc, which could actually help us get scum. Naturally, i feel like mafia members would try and prevent blocs to stop the town from organizing themselves to beat the mafia. Then again his suspicions for a bloc seem somewhat solid, as mafia members sneaking into blocs is always a possibility. I have a very un decided opinion on Trollie. )

Notice how in his reads he leaves Trollie as a null read? I think this is because he doesn't want to have a strong opinion on his buddy in case he flips scum. He can't hard defend or it will look bad, and he can't tunnel a lot, otherwise it will also look bad. Also the only reason he has for putting him as null is based on the voting block discussion which happened like 200-400 posts before this one.
TheTrollie wrote:
Reads


Null


Venmar
– his posts are very wishy washy but at the same time he is generally encouraging scum-hunting. I just wish he encouraged it less and did it more. Also his response to Matt’s attack is very weird—he thinks matt is talking about psyche. He’s probably fine but I want to keep watching him.

Notice how Trollie also lists Venmar as a null read? This was filled with weak attacks and waffles. He brings up some reasonably decent points against Venmar but never pursues them and doesn't try to find out more.

More coming.

Om of the Nom wrote:
TheTrollie wrote:
Venmar wrote:^ Shot claimed cop.. not dr. Are you actually reading the thread or is this a mistake?

Could you possible explain why you think Dark is null, and why is Om town?


TheTrollie wrote:Shot – claim of dr. moves him to null. I still don’t like how aggressive he was against me when he wasn’t doing anything to answer my questions about him.


Sorry..didn’t mean to make that confusing..i meant claim of dr (drmyshot) not claim of dr (doctor role)

Will post my reasons on dark and om when I get a chance. Likely later tonight unless I decide to procrastinate more before then.

Here he just asks Venmar a few questions, nothing too informative and nothing too damning. I think he's trying to test the waters here. Also he never addresses his concerns with Venmar from his reads list.

Trollie wrote:but, at the same time:

Venmar wrote:I had a unsure read. I can't call him town nor mafia because i am unsure!! How hard is this to understand..


(a) "I had an unsure read" -- re-read the posts matt quoted. you called kondi "clearly not scum," and "leaning scum" that is not an unsure read.
(b) you did call him town AND mafia so i dont get why your response is you can't call him town nor mafia
(c) very defensive -- "how hard is this to understand"

eh...now i dont know which to pick...

Yet another weak bussing attack on Venmar. No pursuing of this afterwards, no questions to get more information. Nothing at all.
TheTrollie wrote:how many votes is that on ven?

Hey look, suddenly he's concerned with the wagon on Ven. I think he's worried that Ven will get lynched.
TheTrollie wrote:i'm pretty convinced by all of this "turtle" nonsense

UNVOTE: kondi
VOTE: venmar

The most blatant wagon jump ever. This just reeks of bussing. No real reason to jump on his wagon, no case to go with it, nothing but a bad "reason" and a vote.
TheTrollie wrote:no one else thinks venmar's BK comment deserves discussion?

Again with the random suspicion. The closest thing he had before this in relation to thinking Ven-scum was the vote on him and a few bussing attacks.

Om of the Nom wrote:tl;dr
Ven and Trollie are scumbuddies together because:
~They rarely mention each other so they can keep the connection low.
~The only real comments between them consist of random, weak bussing attempts with no follow up for any information.
~They both kept each other as null reads originally so they could avoid having a strong opinion on each other.
~Trollie randomly started suspecting Venmar for no apparent reason, no case to go with his vote, and no strong or damning attacks or attempts to get information from Ven to try and discern his alignment.

Om of the Nom wrote:Also note how the only people that Venmar references about their stance on the block when giving his reads are kondi and Trollie. I think this links them all together nicely.

Om of the Nom wrote:He didn't want to be investigated, he must have something to hide.

Om of the Nom wrote:Can't you guys see that BK is lining up lynches? He's constantly trying to get gunny to investigate someone else.
Seriously, investigate BK and he will turn up scum. Trust me.

Om of the Nom wrote:Interested in the explanation for Me-scum.

Darkling is def. scum because that post reeks of intentional accident hammer.

Om of the Nom wrote:
Darkling_Perhaps wrote:Dammit, scum got lucky.
This is so scummy.


Let me figure this out. We hit two scum so far and there's only one left.
Fake content.


Let's see. What's Kass's motivation behind his MattP push? He's been pushing it most of his posts so far. I feel like he could have been goaded into this as scum, because he's been playing blinders down against him, so to speak.
Decent-ish I guess.


I'm going to take a look at Venmar's and Trollie's interactions, see if I can see any bussing or obvious distancing... First off the way they argued the voting block makes me feel like there aren't an scum hiding in there, but that's not really surprising, OmNom and Kondi seem to be on most people's Townlist.
Fake content.


BK's argument for the we case was pretty suspect and reminds me of how Trollie attacked Shotty over the same. They're both nitpicking details
Fake content.


MattP did jump on Trollie rather hard when I pushed at their connection. I don't feel like he was bussing though, just looking at it more rationally.
Fake content.


I'd put the two most likely remaining scum as BK or Kass, which means we've won this game.
VOTE: Kass
Shitty wagon jump which was totally an intentional 'accidental' hammer.

Darkling_Perhaps wrote:Edit: 'two who are most likely the one remaining scum', didn't mean to imply plural
Completely ignores the fact that he hammered Kass (and he knew he hammered Kass) and instead just points out and fixes a mistake in his previous post.


This basically sums up why he literally claimed scum.
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If I only had the magic key that would unlock the realms to the plateau of the highest me.
Even though I’ve been badly bruised, living in a house to become a popular muse.”

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Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:33 pm

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What was my scumslip?

Yeah, you just called Dark mislynch bait then next post you say you want him lynched.
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Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:35 pm

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Ok fine.

MATTP IS SCUM BECAUSE HE MADE A TERRIBLE ATTACK ON ME AND IS TRYING TO GET ME MISLYNCHED. HE DELIBERATELY OMITTED THINGS FROM MY ISO TO MAKE ME LOOK LIKE SCUM. HE DISCREDITS ALL MY ATTACKS AND DISCREDITS ME WITH IT. HE ISN'T PROPERLY DEFENDING HIMSELF. HE IS BEING REALLY OPPORTUNISTIC. ALSO MY GUT IS GOING SUPERFUCKIGNCRAZY ON HIM.
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Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:36 pm

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I'd still like to know where exactly I 'slipped up' considering the arguments in question really were thought out in an attempt to find scum. And I disagree, I don't feel like I've been posting 'too much with little content' comments at all. Damn, I hate this game so much. Two things I take solace in: We're going to find the last scum and win, and I'm going to prove OmNom's gut read wrong.

My number one read is still BK. I think killing him will win us the game. VOTE: BK201

I'll look through a bit more, see if I can come up with a more comprehensive argument. I'm also going to look through MattP again, this time as another iso instead of just a correlation between him and Trollie.
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Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:37 pm

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IS THAT FUCKING ENOUGH OF AN EXPLANATION? YOU AREN'T THE ONLY PERSON IN THE GAME YOU KNOW. I EXPLAINED TONS OF SHIT ON EVERYONE ELSE, YET YOU KEPT IT TO JUST YOU BECAUSE YOU CAN INCRIMINATE ME THAT WAY.
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Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:39 pm

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Note how a lot of Matt's comments D1 are directed at Trollie and Venmar.
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Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:40 pm

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No, I'm saying your explanations are useless and seem like you're trying to seem pro-town. Saying Darkling's post is "fake content" is bullshit.

You also haven't shown me where you call me scum. Fucking show me I am titillated and I want your lovely posts inside me to show me the way.

pedit: Yeah because then I went through his posts and I felt differently so obviously I was going to say I felt differently.

p-edit2: That was equally as unhelpful as everything else you've posted this game, congrats!

p-edit3: Om, Idgaf what else you've said, you said something that was a LIE AND LIARS GET FUCKING SMOTHERED IN LYNCH SHIT

BK, Om lied, he fucking dies no excuses if he goes to lylo he will win it because kondi will vote the other unconfirmed player. He has to die in the next two lynches.
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Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:40 pm

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Yeah, because Trollie is my RL friend and was asking for clarifications and Venmar was fucking scum
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Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:41 pm

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Darkling, seriously.
If you are town, you will vote for Matt.

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Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:43 pm

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MattP wrote:Yeah, because Trollie is my RL friend and was asking for clarifications and Venmar was fucking scum

Notice how he omits the fact that he called Trollie scum in D1.
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Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:43 pm

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MattP wrote:Sorry Trollie, I have to take a stance on you as scum.
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kondi2424 wrote:PEdit: You guys seriously haven't seen a reaction test?


yeah i have...i've also seen stupid scummy decisions...like yours

This post is incredibly scummy. It is a baseless attack on kondi. It's an Argument of Repetition since I already said this in a more constructive way and it's also opportunistic piggybacking on a wagon on kondi.

It's basically just a post that get's people to want to vote kondi with no constructive reasoning.
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Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:44 pm

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Om of the Nom wrote:Darkling, seriously.
If you are town, you will vote for Matt.

PEDIT: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
The only defenses you can muster up are, "Om lied so everything else he said is null. LYNCH PLZ," and "BAHAHAHA, YOU'RE USELESS AND STUPID. LYNCH PLZ."

No, I had other points but that's the most incriminating.

Also, it's funny that you say that when your point is that I am opportunistic when I'm not and that I'm "not defending myself properly".

You only are going after me because I'm going after you and that's just as incriminating as your lie, and your tenacity with which you are doing it is even more incriminating.

p-edit: I said that Trollie was null-scum, and then I voted for him, yes, what's your point?
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Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:44 pm

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Om, wanna do a 1 v 1 with me?
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Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:46 pm

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I'm so fucking sure that Om is scum that if he flips town lynch me next.
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Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:48 pm

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Dark, I see you browsing the forum.

Vote MattP NOW


PEDIT: Lol, you just admitted to excluding things to make your case sound stronger (aka misrepping).
Lol discrediting. You are being opportunistic. You aren't defending yourself at all. Your point on me is that I lied and scumslipped (which you still haven't explained) and so I must be scum and everything else doesn't count because of it.

Nope, you're twisting it to look like OMGUS. I made a valid attack on you and you're using OMGUS as an excuse. Also I like all the buzzwords you're using to make your case sound way better than it is. It's a nice touch~

You said that you were explaining things to him, so that's why most of your posts were commenting to/on him. Yet you omitted the fact that you called him scum.

PEDIT:Fuck yes I will.
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Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:48 pm

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Also hey look, I'm explaining why you're scum. Your point is completely moot now.
Om:1, Matt:0
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Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:49 pm

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Om of the Nom wrote:What was my scumslip?

Still waiting on this. You're totally being a hypocrite by not explaining this right now.
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Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:52 pm

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Cool we agreed to 1 v 1 I'm done arguing with your thick skull.

Lynch whomever you want of us two today, just lynch the other tomorrow.

p-edit: Your scumslip was your lie

And your stupid propaganda is not going to work. Saying I'm a hyprocrite and that I am not arguing your points against me when I have are strawman arguments. You are being so fucking aggressive I look forward to your head on my mantle.
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Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:53 pm

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What lie?
Nope, not strawmanning. Just pointing out the truth.
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Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:54 pm

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Darkling, don't waste your vote.

Yep you're strawmanning and you are viciously attacking me with them
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Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:54 pm

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Om of the Nom wrote:What lie?

Seriously? Go fuck yourself scum
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Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:55 pm

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And again being a hypocrite.

You were strawmanning me not explaining things, when I've done tons of that. Being aggressive is a good way to get your scumreads lynched and is pro-town.

PEDIT:
Guys seriously look. I have asked him to explain many times yet he refuses to explain and calls me scum instead. This is not pro-town behaviour at all.

I never lied because I'm town.
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Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:57 pm

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YOU CLAIMED YOU ELABORATED THROUGHOUT THE GAME WHY I AM SCUM. YOU HAVE NEVER DONE SO. THAT WAS A FUCKING LIE YOU MADE. YOU MADE ME YOUR SECOND CHOICE FOR LYNCH BASED OFF OF THIS LIE. YOU WERE JUST SETTING UP LYNCHES WITH IT. YOU ARE SCUM AND YOU WILL DIE. YOU WILL DIE TODAY OR TOMORROW IDGAF SO STOP ATTACKING ME WITH YOUR BULLSHIT
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Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Mon May 28, 2012 4:57 pm

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Arguing with you is the most idiotic experience I've ever had and I can't wait to see you cry when you're fucking lynched
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