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In post 1537, caledfwitch wrote:My meta will reveal that I only vote when absolutely convinced of someone's guilt, and rarely move said vote.

Last time I heard htis I think it was from mara while she was scum.

Oh yeah mara

Cabd and mara: why are you scumreading me

Guyett is weirding me a little. I feel like his vote swings a bit too freely to be scum, but he could just be jumpy.

Thinking back on it I do think TIP is scum, just for his silly shit with me claiming. Also, why is caled drawing more attention to TIP?

*than TIP

In post 1527, yessiree wrote:It's not uncommon for scum to claim town PR when they are ran up. You cannot be certain orc's claim is genuine.

This claim also injects the element of WIFOM into our judgement, as I don't see the authenticity of it.

If you want to convince people otherwise, you'd have to show that his play is in line with being a town cop.

k

You haven't shown how my play was in line with being scum all fucking game. I mean, you people don't even bother. My wagon started maybe 4 days ago. I asked for a case yesterday. I have gotten jackshit. Nothing. Not even quotes. There is nothing on me.

Like, how I even got driven up to L-1 baffles me incredibly.

And no fucking shit you can't be certain my claim is genuine, you can't be certain of anything in this game. What we do is we try to make lynches that maximize utility to town. The reason why PRs aren't kept at L-1 (hi TIP) is because town stands to lose more than if it were a VT claim and scum often tries to take the opportunity to hammer them (hi TIP)

Good lord this be news to you

In post 1550, orcinus_theoriginal wrote: Guyett is weirding me a little. I feel like his vote swings a bit too freely to be scum, but he could just be jumpy.

I'm very liberal with my vote...

Yes. That is what I said.

Hey Nacho what did you hope to achieve by parroting bauss' shit case again?

Didn't like you, trust strong meta reads. Why wouldn't I?

In post 1554, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Yes. That is what I said.

Regardless of alignment

In post 1556, sangres wrote:Didn't like you, trust strong meta reads. Why wouldn't I?

oh I assumed that you weren't being an asshole for the sake of it

last time i checked you read me as town when i was scum, and then scum when i was town

so i'm not too sure where you get off being so sure of your meta read that you don't even interact with me

seems kinda scummy doesn' tit

In post 1556, sangres wrote:Didn't like you, trust strong meta reads. Why wouldn't I?

oh I assumed that you weren't being an asshole for the sake of it

last time i checked you read me as town when i was scum, and then scum when i was town

so i'm not too sure where you get off being so sure of your meta read that you don't even interact with me

seems kinda scummy doesn' tit

In post 1552, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:

In post 1527, yessiree wrote:It's not uncommon for scum to claim town PR when they are ran up. You cannot be certain orc's claim is genuine.

This claim also injects the element of WIFOM into our judgement, as I don't see the authenticity of it.

If you want to convince people otherwise, you'd have to show that his play is in line with being a town cop.

k

You haven't shown how my play was in line with being scum all fucking game. I mean, you people don't even bother. My wagon started maybe 4 days ago. I asked for a case yesterday. I have gotten jackshit. Nothing. Not even quotes. There is nothing on me.

Like, how I even got driven up to L-1 baffles me incredibly.

And no fucking shit you can't be certain my claim is genuine, you can't be certain of anything in this game. What we do is we try to make lynches that maximize utility to town. The reason why PRs aren't kept at L-1 (hi TIP) is because town stands to lose more than if it were a VT claim and scum often tries to take the opportunity to hammer them (hi TIP)

Good lord this

cannot

be news to you

It's simple, really. I trust Bauss's ability to read his brother correctly. That's the entire case on you, and that's enough for a lynch. Guilty until proven innocent.

Hey guys, not sure if you've heard this before:

Rank would not sub out on D1 as town. 100%
Rank would not sub out on D1 as cop. 150%
Orcinus is scum. ((100% + 150%) / 2) = 125%

Math is fun!

hate to piss in your cornflakes but that math is wrong...

In post 1545, yessiree wrote:

In post 1480, Angry Frat BROs wrote:If Orc flips scum, I'm thinking TIP partner. His "claim now bro" looks like coaching a

scumbuddy

*not* to get derphammered, and then blowing Guyett's reaction-test looks like trying to make sure Orc doesn't have a shit reaction.

Orc's last few pages have been meh; I was expecting a lot more after he got back from V/LA.

Intent to hammer here.

In post 1542, Angry Frat BROs wrote: ...
Yessiree and Bauss coming out immediately to try to strongarm town into pushing the

mislynch

is scummy, ftr. Bauss's insistence on posting high-level conjecture about Rank's play, while not addressing Orc's play with substance, is scummy.

...

TIP's vote jump is awkward as fuck, and looks scummy, but it wouldn't work with yessiree/bauss's push for the lynch.

Sakura Hana looking super-town these past few pages.

A blunt transition from Intention to hammer a

scumread

to defending a perceived

mislynch

my townread on you is diminishing

I never called Orc a scumread, did I? I kept my read on Orc ambiguous intentionally to prevent a derphammer.

Also, I don't lynch un-CC'd PRs.

In post 1550, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Thinking back on it I do think TIP is scum, just for his silly shit with me claiming. Also, why is caled drawing more attention to TIP?

million dollar question right here.

In post 1562, likeabauss wrote:Hey guys, not sure if you've heard this before:

Rank would not sub out on D1 as town. 100%
Rank would not sub out on D1 as cop. 150%
Orcinus is scum. ((100% + 150%) / 2) = 125%

Math is fun!

Bauss failing to substantiate claim #1 makes him scum – 100%
Bauss failing to substantiate claim #2 makes him scum – 100%

Bauss is scum = (100%+100%)/2 = 100%

I can say things without providing any reasons too! Can town sheep me to put Bauss at L-1 now?

In post 1563, Guyett wrote:hate to piss in your cornflakes but that math is wrong...

Guyett, use this gif when addressing Bauss:



It counters him while providing the same level of reasoning he's been providing all game!

In post 1564, Angry Frat BROs wrote:

In post 1545, yessiree wrote:

In post 1480, Angry Frat BROs wrote:If Orc flips scum, I'm thinking TIP partner. His "claim now bro" looks like coaching a

scumbuddy

*not* to get derphammered, and then blowing Guyett's reaction-test looks like trying to make sure Orc doesn't have a shit reaction.

Orc's last few pages have been meh; I was expecting a lot more after he got back from V/LA.

Intent to hammer here.

In post 1542, Angry Frat BROs wrote: ...
Yessiree and Bauss coming out immediately to try to strongarm town into pushing the

mislynch

is scummy, ftr. Bauss's insistence on posting high-level conjecture about Rank's play, while not addressing Orc's play with substance, is scummy.

...

TIP's vote jump is awkward as fuck, and looks scummy, but it wouldn't work with yessiree/bauss's push for the lynch.

Sakura Hana looking super-town these past few pages.

A blunt transition from Intention to hammer a

scumread

to defending a perceived

mislynch

my townread on you is diminishing

I never called Orc a scumread, did I? I kept my read on Orc ambiguous intentionally to prevent a derphammer.

Also, I don't lynch un-CC'd PRs.

ambiguity does not come from town

In post 1568, yessiree wrote:ambiguity does not come from town

False.

I can site two times off the top of my head that I've been ambiguous as town.

I feel like this is an attempt at leading to a circular argument, and no meaningful outcome will result from it.

Regarding this specific case alone, being ambiguous about your read on Orc is more detrimental than beneficial to town.

I gotta head to for lunch, cya

In post 1567, Angry Frat BROs wrote:

In post 1563, Guyett wrote:hate to piss in your cornflakes but that math is wrong...

Guyett, use this gif when addressing Bauss:

Spoiler:

It counters him while providing the same level of reasoning he's been providing all game!

FratBros, you can keep screaming loudly at the top of your lungs, but I laid out a pretty substantial case against you and your response is pure suck. Just because I'm not continuing to drill at you doesn't mean you're right. You're now attempting to paint me as scum, without laying out any type of case on me. It's quite laughable really.

I substantiated both claims on Rank, with an in-depth analysis of him as a player and his play (based on 10 years of playing mafia with him.) You're asking me to substantiate a meta read that spans a volume of work you couldn't possibly read and understand in enough time to vote appropriately. There's an evolution of play, different archetypes he plays, deliberately different meta on different boards, calculated play refinements based on board play, and then there's a personal level of conversation and post game chats that provides far greater insight and depth on him than simply reading a game he played... you're asking like my meta read on Rank is something simple that I can point to a game or two and say "Here it is."

You're asking like you can only prove somebody is a murderer if they have murdered before.

That wagon built up waaaay to slowly and dispersed waaay too quickly. Compare this to Caled, whose wagon built up so quickly. As much as Caled's post was terrible, I'm really not liking the quick wagon build up on the easy reason of 'lurkeromgmustbescum'. Lynch Orc. Perhaps I'm being stupid by following Bauss here, but I'm pretty confident about OrcScum.
VOTE: Orcinus
Lynch now.

In post 1573, Hermy wrote:I'm really not liking the quick wagon build up on the easy reason of 'lurkeromgmustbescum'.

I'm not voting caled for this reason what makes you feel that way?