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In post 1472, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:we are exhausted from scumreading jake and having nothing happen from it, it saddens us

He is, but I'm not. I really do think that jake needs to die

In post 1547, Squirrel Girl wrote:Do you think I'm nutty?

yes

Granted, I do refuse to talk to him until jake is dead, so

In post 1551, Antihero wrote:

In post 1547, Squirrel Girl wrote:Do you think I'm nutty?

yes

I think it's a pretty defensible position to say that he didn't express such a great belief in scum in the first part so as to lack a vote is not strange.
After all, if he asked him about how what was going on appeared scummy as opposed to stating it was scummy - that's a different deal. Do you agree or disagree with that? As in; can you explain why you think he expressed a great scum feeling there when he expressed a question as opposed to a statement. If you can't, then I appear to be correct on the first half.

As far as the second half goes, your presented issue is that he is coming at it from a position of you being town. He isn't. He's coming at it from a position of you possibly just presenting information to force a lynch, and asks why theoryPR you wouldn't have targeted a different target. Last I checked, that's questioning your role claim - and I think that though one could argue that he thought you were fakeclaiming town - it's equally supportable to suggest he thought you were fakeclaiming scum. Why do you conclude the former and rule out the latter? Because if you can't justify that in an overwhelming way, your basic stance there is based on a supposition and that's not exactly a bang-up position for a case and, again, tends to suggest my take is the more correct one. I'd even note that in your rebuttal to him, you actually agree with his point that he/me should have been considered as your target that night, so he seems to be actually coming from fairly reasonable place in thinking your targets might have seemed odd and thus worth questioning - and yet you want to call that a scumtell, even though he was at least half correct even by your own admission.

Can you show either/both point(s) to be me being nutty as opposed to you?

In post 1352, Aj The Epic wrote:Anti, since your claiming a blocker role, why SHOULD we believe this is any more than a ploy to get him lynched?

All I've gotten from you so far is you'll do anything you can to get the people you have the slightest suspicion on lynched.

Why wouldn't you have RB'd me or Kdub, the two you were vehemently against?

having genuine suspicion requires a town role PM.

that wording just gives me the gut feeling that he was fishing for a retraction (especially given the ; muffinman already suggested that he thought i was just gambiting).

i don't know, you could be right and i'm just not being objective about it, that's just what i see in the rorschach blot of the post

In post 1554, Aegor wrote:VOTE: ActionDan

LOL

ah, that gave me a good chuckle

trololololololol

But seriously, Mac must die.

got distracted yesterday by Papers Please. judge me.

Shit

In post 1382, Aegor wrote:VOTE: AJ

Another naked vote?

In post 1428, Antihero wrote:

In post 1427, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:

In post 1411, Antihero wrote:mara, while jake is an honorary mafia goon, i think we could do better.

based on reactions to the claim yesterday, i think it's AJ and muffin.

VOTE: AJ

Scum is scum, regardless of their role. you think there is another scum-PR, though?

muffin/SMP doesn't make sense. I'm thinking it's probably Kdub/Jake

jake's a tough nut to crack. he's playing to the scum win condition, but gut's still telling me he's not scum.

I actually agree with this. I also agree that muffin/SMP don't make sense either and am willing to say Muffin is town.

In post 1453, Jake from State Farm wrote:

vote: zmuffinman

You're amazing.

In post 1472, Hello Kitty Creampuff wrote:we are exhausted from scumreading jake and having nothing happen from it, it saddens us

This may come as a shock to you, but you can have more than one scumread you know? Like, there's probably one more scum on top of Jake (probably two since Jake's not scum!) This pretty much looks like you're using your scumread on Jake as a basis for not doing anything.

In post 1483, Jake from State Farm wrote:

vote: mac

when smp was getting run up the first time, he had like 5 votes and mac was defensive of smp and trying to smear my name. He also was lightly defensive of SMP during the anti/smp claim thing but said smp is the only viable lynch. Given smp fliped a scum pr, this defense stands out to me.

The people most likely partners with SMP are in the group of mac/hkc/zmuffinman with mac/zmuffin the most likely pair.

Looking at the interactions between the 3, smp/mac/zmuffin REALLY make sense. Somebody check my work

There's not one post in my ISO that defends SMP. Believe it or not (and I know you'll struggle with this) but I looked at an SMP lynch from both perspectives - I liked your case but you were tunnelling the ever living fuck out of him based on like 2 games and I wasn't sure if that was because you were scum pursuing an easy town lynch or not. I didn't try and "smear" your name, and then again during SMP/anti I looked at both sides of the argument and guess what? Neither made sense. I know you're super godly town, but do better.

In post 1497, Jake from State Farm wrote:it's also noteworthy that the only people trying to do stuff are people who are most likely town meanwhile zmuffin and mac are waiting to see where they can hop on and not be suspicious. Townies would be trying harder to find scum, especially when townies have the edge.

so go ahead and berate me, insult me, slander my name, or do whatever it is you think you can to distract town away from you but I guarantee if the other townies actually do their own work they will probably come to a similar conclusion.

Casually ignoring that I was V/LA. Thanks Jake!

In post 1520, Aegor wrote: If anyone strongly believes that Mac or AJ is town, please make your case. At this point, I fail to see any reason whatsoever to let two slots that have produced nothing of substance (or, in Mac's case, a defense of scum and nothing else except unexplained flip-flopping on the Day 1 HS) by Day 3 live.

1) I didn't defend scum
2) I didn't flip-flop on HS without clearly showing my thought process
3) I can prove at least one of us is town!

In post 1529, zMuffinMan wrote:i don't think you can or do!

Believe me, I can.

In post 1546, BROseidon wrote:Trying to read this game is the worst :/

HERE FUCKING HERE. I'd appreciate your thoughts Bro, since you're confirmed town and all.

The tiring thing about this game is the constant fucking whinging whenever someone gets called an idiot or petty. Grow a thicking skin and stop clogging up the gamethread with posts to the mod.

PEDIT

no jake! noooo!!!

If that's what we were waiting for from you, I'm #NotImpressed

Oh that's cool, I'm #NotBothered

You said you were going to prove one of you were town. When is that happening cause I need to pop some popcorn first

Well we're neighbours, so there's that.

well that was helpful...

Call it in the air

Well it proves one of your scumreads is wrong, possibly both, so that's pretty helpful.

hence the coin toss cause it doesn't solve which one of you two are scum and I don't have town vibes from anyone.


also

Casually ignoring that I was V/LA. Thanks Jake!

btw I didn't ignore it but you declared it on the 5th and it was a 1 day v/la meanwhile the game had already been open almost 3 full days before you declared it. Game opened on the 2nd so where were you the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th? You weren't on a declared v/la those days...

I was V/LA with illness. The thread was not open. I cannot post in a locked thread. You can verify that elsewhere.

I should've PMed the mod, but didn't. Judge me.

Don't need to get defensive. I'm just sayin I can't consider things if I didn't know about them



Voting a dead person was the last straw

i agree

that was really scummy of aegor

i see nothing but scum motivation in voting a dead player

i will vote a living player to prove i am town