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Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 9:38 am

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Titus wrote:@Cheetory,

Bulbazak is town because of the fluidity but logical consistency of his opinions. People are consistently inconsistent. I feel that people jumped on the first thing they disagreed with as scummy, rather than actually seeing what was actually scummy. My team told me to be hesitant on declaring people were scum so when I saw the massive pile up on Bulba for reasons I could not even divine much less understand, I figured the push was on town rather than on scum. I know occasionally I am wrong. Given those voices on Bulba's slot have suddenly gone quiet today when it's actually time to lynch Bulba, I can conclude either I was right or scum were setting up massive distancing for towncred. I'm more inclined to believe the former.

P-edit... well I thought no one was make a bulba is scum push...


Bulba as scum remains consistent nearly at all times. You can't say that bulba is not scum just because you didn't find inconsistencies.


Show me this.

Generally I find scum are not.

Oh and this looks exactly like HU2 Bulba... forgot that.
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Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:49 am

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Marquis wrote:shame :( well i'm heading off for dinner tonight anyway so we can come back to this shit later. but tell anti to just give me a call if he's ever up for eating out!

Spoiler: I was told to post this


Add Gamma to the people to vote. I think the obliviousness is a put-on. mastin, can you explain that read?
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Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 10:58 am

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Bulbazak wrote:Mastin: Talk to me about Gamma.
Pure gut. Nothing there but ~feels~ of not being scum, just probably not pushing in the right spots.
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Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:26 am

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Bulbazak wrote:Mastin: Talk to me about Gamma.
Pure gut. Nothing there but ~feels~ of not being scum, just probably not pushing in the right spots.
^


My team wants me to sheep this, not that they've seen this comment specifically, but they told me to find a player whose reads you generally agree with. Vote their gut read and see what the hell happens and not to do too much forcing (but for town reads).

So yes, this logically sucks, but I'm doing this because, go team!

VOTE: Gamma
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Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:28 am

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mastin2 wrote:Leaves ActionDan, GIF, Titus, TSO, and UT to sort.
(BTW, tried this via iso. Dan and GIF gave me nothing. TSO I think can give something, but I skimmed too much so gave me nothing, either. Haven't bothered with Titus or UT, but needless to say, I'm not getting reads on 'em any time soon.)
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Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:36 am

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Changing:
VOTE: Marquis
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Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:37 am

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@Vezok,

Reading that, keeping in mind I'm working on overconfidence.

I mean, please show it to me. I can't look at what I'm not recalling/don't know.
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Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:38 am

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Titus wrote:
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Bulbazak wrote:Mastin: Talk to me about Gamma.
Pure gut. Nothing there but ~feels~ of not being scum, just probably not pushing in the right spots.
^
My team wants me to sheep this, not that they've seen this comment specifically, but they told me to find a player whose reads you generally agree with. Vote their gut read and see what the hell happens and not to do too much forcing (but for town reads).
So yes, this logically sucks, but I'm doing this because, go team!
VOTE: Gamma
Uhh. Titus?

That was me saying Gamma's town.
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Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:41 am

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Umm that looked like to me you said your gut said Gamma was scum bc he wasn't pushing in the right spots.

I'll just go back over here and repair my olive branch.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:43 am

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If you want to sheep me, though, there's a nice shiny Esp wagon to join!
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Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:44 am

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VOTE: Espy

Ok. There we go.
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Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:59 am

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UNVOTE: GuyInFreezer
VOTE: Espeonage

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Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:04 pm

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@CDB, Thank you.
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Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:08 pm

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Hey so, I'm really sorry to you guys for having to do this but I'm going to have to replace out. Without talking about it too much (I hate discussing my personal life on the forums), I had a huge mental breakdown yesterday that was the culmination of a lot of things not really germane to this game. To be honest, it was probably against my better judgment to even sign up for team mafia but I figured this would be a welcome distraction and it was totally not the case. I feel really awful about leaving but TM's been surprisingly hazardous to my mental health right now. Realistically, I don't think I'm going to play forum mafia again.

Without much more, I'll just leave my own (truncated) final thoughts:

cheetory, DV, vezok, and T S O are all town and should never be lynched. If it were up to me, I'd add Tammy to the list too (and Regfan seemed to be finally coming around to it the last time I spoke to him about her slot).

The Bulbazak townread has only gotten stronger for me due to his inter-team discussions with mollie though he is not quite in that "never lynch this" tier that the others are. Aronis, GIF, and Marquis are all weaker townreads too (Regfan is WAY more skeptical of Marquis than I am, though).

I'm still waffling pretty hard on Gamma and CDB (and Mina is still convinced CDB is scum here). I wish Gamma in particular had posted more as that would probably have me made feel a lot more confident in reading him one way or the other.

That leaves {AD, Shadoweh, Titus, UT, TTH, Espeonage and mastin} for me. Regfan mentioned that he thought Espeonage was likely town but we didn't really discuss him a whole lot. I don't read mastin's posts as a matter of policy because they make me mad and I can't read her anyway so your guess is as good as mine. TTH REALLY needs rope though, vezok's reveal is damning and her reactions to it are awful.

Regfan did tell me to tell you guys that, unfortunately, he probably won't follow this game after I'm gone.

One last thing: Tammy, I'm sorry for making the comment that I did - to be honest, I didn't think it was that big of a deal considering we used to joke about stuff like that all the time (about how I "troll" you in games, etc.). I know you had (have?) a lot of stress going on right now and the last thing I wanted to do was exacerbate it. I'm positive your dissertation/defense will go over very well (at least you're almost done, right?).

Anyway, good luck with the game and I hope you all have a lot of fun. Sorry for the disruption.
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Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:12 pm

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Can you answer why TTH needs rope before you go?

Nice playing with you. If you had a huge mental breakdown, I'm sorry for that. If there's anything I can do, let me know. Your health is more important than this.
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Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:13 pm

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singersigner replaces Empire in Westeros Circlejerk and may now post in here (Empire should no longer post in here)
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Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:14 pm

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I'll take that as a no, but I wish I could.

@SingerSinger, did Empire leave the reason for that in TTH!scum his QT? Welcome btw. I think you were the only player I met IRL that I hadn't met online. Say hi to Agar and Quadz for me please.
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Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:15 pm

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*his PT with you.

Bah!
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Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:16 pm

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Add Gamma to the people to vote. I think the obliviousness is a put-on. mastin, can you explain that read?

Yeah there's nothing oblivious about my opinion about you. I see exactly what you're implying and my instinctual reaction to all shit like that from remotely competent players is to burn it to the ground because there is literally nothing that prevents or even hinders scum from trying to get away with doing the exact same thing with absolutely no downside.

But if you'll notice I'm still a lot more confident in bulba being scum than you so :3

and I actually think I'll be able to post words about it sometime tonight instead of tomorrow too!

p-edit: sorry to see ya go empire, I hope the stress decrease makes everything a lot better :)
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Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:19 pm

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Empire, I'm really sad to hear that things are so tough for you right now. All the best and hope you feel better soon.

That said, yay, singer! I'm glad you got a chance to play this Team Mafia in the end. :)
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Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:20 pm

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@Gammagooey, I think I'm missing a lot from #1568. Can you back up and explain to me?
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Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:25 pm

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VC 43 (Major Day 1, VC 6)


(5)
TellTaleHeart:
singersigner, Tammy, Aronis, Marquis, Cheetory6
(Titus, vezokpiraka)
[L-5]
(3)
Espeonage:
mastin2, Titus, ChannelDelibird
(2)
Aronis:
Bulbazak, vezokpiraka
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Bulbazak:
Gammagooey
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Marquis:
TellTaleHeart
(0)
GuyInFreezer:
(ChannelDelibird)

(0)
Shadoweh:
(TellTaleHeart)

(0)
Gammagooey:
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(7)
Not Voting:
Actiondan, Deasvail, GuyinFreezer, Shadoweh, T S O, Untrod Tripod, Espeonage
(TellTaleHeart, Titus, Titus)


With 19 votes in play, it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline is Saturday, April 25th, at 9PM CST.

Major Day One Deadline(expired on 2015-04-25 20:00:00)


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Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:13 pm

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Titus wrote:@Gammagooey, I think I'm missing a lot from #1568. Can you back up and explain to me?

no.
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Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:16 pm

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@Gamma, Ok for now. I can't follow that though, so you're not going to get a lot of following there, considering I don't agree with your reads, particularly Bulba. I'm willing to listen if you change your mind.
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Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Thu Apr 09, 2015 1:53 pm

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welcome, singer.

sad to see you go, Empire. was hoping to talk reads with you tonight :(

hope real life gets better for you soon
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