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In post 1542, ArcAngel9 wrote:Try harder is what i could recommend. I am here to listen, if you have legitimate case and convince others, I am sure you can drag it to right direction

I have posted a link to my case on copper already. The case that I quoted on HS was from that post actually and HS has linked to that case on copper.

since then wobbuffet replaced in and essentially chose to not read the game. He asked me for my reasons on his slot and I told him he should read the game and he would find them.


he twisted that into me somehow refusing to explain my scum read (which can't possibly be true if I had already done it)
he claimed my reasons were vague - (which can't possibly be true if multiple conversations and arguments took place about those reasons)
He then claimed that I was trying to lynch mort (which absolutely isn't true because I never voted him once, and never even said I would consider voting him)

he has also done absolutely nothing useful. I do not see him attempting to scum hunt.

In post 1550, TwoFace wrote:

In post 1542, ArcAngel9 wrote:Try harder is what i could recommend. I am here to listen, if you have legitimate case and convince others, I am sure you can drag it to right direction

I have posted a link to my case on copper already. The case that I quoted on HS was from that post actually and HS has linked to that case on copper.

since then wobbuffet replaced in and essentially chose to not read the game. He asked me for my reasons on his slot and I told him he should read the game and he would find them.


he twisted that into me somehow refusing to explain my scum read (which can't possibly be true if I had already done it)
he claimed my reasons were vague - (which can't possibly be true if multiple conversations and arguments took place about those reasons)
He then claimed that I was trying to lynch mort (which absolutely isn't true because I never voted him once, and never even said I would consider voting him)

he has also done absolutely nothing useful. I do not see him attempting to scum hunt.

Point taken, We can park him into the lynch pool and I am with you on this. Lets wait what he has to say about this.

your thoughts on Chaos? I want answers from this man.

In post 1550, TwoFace wrote:

In post 1542, ArcAngel9 wrote:Try harder is what i could recommend. I am here to listen, if you have legitimate case and convince others, I am sure you can drag it to right direction

I have posted a link to my case on copper already. The case that I quoted on HS was from that post actually and HS has linked to that case on copper.

since then wobbuffet replaced in and essentially chose to not read the game. He asked me for my reasons on his slot and I told him he should read the game and he would find them.


he twisted that into me somehow refusing to explain my scum read (which can't possibly be true if I had already done it)
he claimed my reasons were vague - (which can't possibly be true if multiple conversations and arguments took place about those reasons)
He then claimed that I was trying to lynch mort (which absolutely isn't true because I never voted him once, and never even said I would consider voting him)

he has also done absolutely nothing useful. I do not see him attempting to scum hunt.

Point taken, We can park him into the lynch pool and I am with you on this. Lets wait what he has to say about this.

your thoughts on Chaos? I want answers from this man.

Sorry for the double most. Please remove it if you can.

chaos is nothing. I can't remember anything of value from him.

his petty complaint to the mod and his policy lynch vote on me is the only thing I remember from him

In post 1554, TwoFace wrote:chaos is nothing. I can't remember anything of value from him.

his petty complaint to the mod and his policy lynch vote on me is the only thing I remember from him

You don't find his play suspicious than cooper slot?

In post 1555, ArcAngel9 wrote:

In post 1554, TwoFace wrote:chaos is nothing. I can't remember anything of value from him.

his petty complaint to the mod and his policy lynch vote on me is the only thing I remember from him

You don't find his play suspicious than cooper slot?

His play is suspicious for sure. I hate lurkers. But there's not much to point to. I felt I had actual reasons for copper

HS wagon has to DIE!!!!


Can we get this game moving please

In post 1557, TwoFace wrote:

In post 1555, ArcAngel9 wrote:

In post 1554, TwoFace wrote:chaos is nothing. I can't remember anything of value from him.

his petty complaint to the mod and his policy lynch vote on me is the only thing I remember from him

You don't find his play suspicious than cooper slot?

His play is suspicious for sure. I hate lurkers. But there's not much to point to. I felt I had actual reasons for copper

Not reading the game isn't a scum tell. He could be a lousy town player. When you don't have much choice you need to swing on to other possiblites. And on the other hand, Chaos has not done anything better than cooper and he more experienced than anyone here and I expect him either have good reasons to lurk or intentionally avoiding the game because he is scum. I understand you have good reasons on Cooper slot but think about his play style, he is as noob as any other new player.

Chaos lurks all games regardless of alignment. I don't agree with it, but it's consistent with our last game, where he told us that.

Chaos was posting once/twice a day in our previous game. I think this time he is lurking more. On the other hand he the main focus of the game then so I don't know if this how he behaves in normal circumstances.

Arc's recent posting reads like town to me so I'm ok to try this out.

If he replaces out this wagon is not going to go anywhere, though.

VOTE: Chaos

He posted just recently.

Going to use town/scum for the remainder of this game until I can research Red/Green more.

Chaos didn't lurk in 1833, as a very good townie.

People reading Shadow town - this is dumb. So far catching up and reading ISOs I've only seen HS do this, but this is bad. Shadow should be null-null scum, Creeps himself should be null town. If you still read Shadow town, separate from his slot, you need to explain.

Drone explained his Road vote with "I don't like that she voted Creeps" and then said she should have unvoted when I told her Creeps softclaimed. Why didn't he point this out when I asked originally? Makes me think he went digging for reasoning when pressed.

Uh, hello? Drone voted HS because of the whole PR hunting thing, one section of which was where TF softclaimed. How could he use that as justification to vote HS, but not know TF softclaimed?

Ok, so Drone actually didn't know. Which means he voted HS on the mere suggestion from Toto that HS was PR hunting and didn't fact check. This is scummy. Or, he forgot, which means he's as useless as any other useless player.

Wobbu is scummy because he voted TF for an actual reason (an awful one) during the TF PL train. He also misreps often, with a litany of weird comments about TF and the one about Naomi. He also continuously avoids discussion and doesn't have reasonable reads. Don't know if I forgot other stuff, not going to do that work right now.

I thought the TF PL train was opportunistic. Now Drone is saying 'We lynch TF or I'm done.' Uh, dude, we're not lynching TF today. Pick someone else. In the absence of anyone else, doesn't this look like scum sitting out?

Chaos, why are you against an HS lynch?

Chaos, Road's bad pushes are a direct result of her not being able to catch up, if that helps at all.

HAHAHA this Chaos push. Angry circlejerk into vote an inactive guy. I don't even know what to make of this and there's probably exactly one scum among HS, Arc, and TF. I'm not voting Chaos right now.

VOTE: Drone

Also fine with the HS wagon if that's where we end up.

Reason I'm pretty sure TF is town is that I agree with him on like, almost everything.

I read shadow town because there's no way scum would replace in and suggest his hypoplay idea.

Really really really good point on Drone.
I know this looks scummy but I'm jumping straight on this.
VOTE: Drone

Much rather be on a wagon I think could actually hit scum as opposed to parking my vote for pressure reasons.

In post 1565, Human Sequencer wrote:I read shadow town because there's no way scum would replace in and suggest his hypoplay idea.

Really really really good point on Drone.
I know this looks scummy but I'm jumping straight on this.
VOTE: Drone

Dude. convinced you to go from null to top scumread? How?

I didn't have any other scumreads, like I've said twentyfive to the nth times, and it's really really bad on Drone's part.

In post 1565, Human Sequencer wrote:I read shadow town because there's no way scum would replace in and suggest his hypoplay idea.

Of course scum might suggest the hypoplay idea. We have no idea whether it's actually good for town or not. He wants to use this game as an experiment and his hypothesis is that it's good for town. Why wouldn't scum suggest this, especially in the absence of real gameplay? That's a bad reason to TR Shadow.

NVM, factchecked and that's not what happened at all.
Drone's vote was mostly for the PL kerfuffle.
VOTE: ChaosOmega
Not sure whether to press onto for the misrep or not.

In post 1568, Human Sequencer wrote:it's really really bad on Drone's part.

This is an exaggeration. It's bad play and scummy but it's not terrible.

In post 1568, Human Sequencer wrote:I didn't have any other scumreads

This is bad. This should not be the case. I understand that the game is very long and how this makes it easy for scum to hide, but you have so many TRs that PoE should definitely get you somewhere close to SRs.

Pedit: you're wrong. Toto and I wanted to unvote after your claim, Drone stayed on because of the PR hunting stuff as you can see in 868 and 870.

All it took for you to unvote was that? And why are you even voting Chaos? That wagon is like, megadumb.

Good lord, you're not sure whether to press me for the 'misrep.' Why not? If it's actually a misrep, isn't that scummy?

Lynch this.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: HS

In post 1564, MortFeld wrote:Reason I'm pretty sure TF is town is that I agree with him on like, almost everything.

In post 1567, MortFeld wrote:

In post 1565, Human Sequencer wrote:I read shadow town because there's no way scum would replace in and suggest his hypoplay idea.

Really really really good point on Drone.
I know this looks scummy but I'm jumping straight on this.
VOTE: Drone

Dude.

That

convinced you to go from null to top scumread? How?

Again if HS isn't scum I'll be scratching my head for days trying to figure him out.

Speaking of confusing people. Where did Naomi go?

Oh she's v/la. My bad

There isn't much data on Shadow. In this preliminary stage, I read him green until I have more information.

If you take some time to understand his theory, you'll see it's well grounded, at least in my opinion. I think it truly would help town, and this is something I think Shadow thinks as well.

Plus, suggesting something like this, creating something, trying to move the game forward isn't scum motivated. I think scumShadow would have just slipped into the game being as inconspicuous as possible. Instead he put all this effort in to try and get everybody onboard with his theorycraft.

Pedit
You're right again. It's not a misrep. I only went to his vote post, where he doesn't mention it.
I should honestly just stop posting.