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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:22 am
by Chara
In post 1548, Shoshin wrote:Alright, fuck it. I'll make some cases on my scumreads. Because apparently that's what you guys need to see that I'm town.
implying that this is a strange thing...? :>

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:25 am
by Shoshin
In post 264, PenguinPower wrote:I mean, I get why people scum read me given my scum meta, but I hate D1 to being with and there being no voting mechanism is fairly offputting.
In post 1550, Chara wrote:
In post 1548, Shoshin wrote:Alright, fuck it. I'll make some cases on my scumreads. Because apparently that's what you guys need to see that I'm town.
implying that this is a strange thing...? :>
Depends on the group of players. It's not my preferred way of showing that I'm town.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:28 am
by Chara
what's your preferred way?

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:28 am
by the worst
opened the thread to say I'm starting to wonder if the reasons I was townleaning PP originally were probably NAI in reality and he's actually just scum when I saw Shoshin's case and like

I need someone to tell me if I'm over WIFOMing myself on PP. But if he's scum what actually is his agenda? it kinda feels like he's becoming a compromise lynch just because his reads are out of sync and he was uncomfortable with the gamestate. I get that this could be town or could be scum pushing some bullshit but I just don't get why scum!PP would be doing this.


can like preferably Taly or Chara weigh in and tell me if I'm going mad?

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:29 am
by the worst
I think im suffering from Too Many Townreads actually

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:31 am
by Chara
not playing well is always an option. there would be no 'reason' for scum Nahdia to be playing like they have been either, as an example.

pedit: that's only a problem if you have more townreads than town in the game.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:32 am
by Chara
but, i do understand. there's a reason i haven't hammered Penguin yet.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:33 am
by the worst
I guess so. I felt like I peeked into pp's soul for a second on d1 when I realised how disgruntled with the gamestate he was but that hasn't really lasted and honestly is really NAI

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:35 am
by Chara
i actually think Penguin knows he hasn't been playing in a way to be townread, and was in turn suspicious of players townreading him. or knows that he hasn't been towny and was going for towncred by saying that. regardless, i don't think it's incorrect to hunt that way.

if both Nahdia and Penguin are town, i'd powerlynch Deas, by the way. Shoshin-scum could still go with Deas scum.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:36 am
by Chara
but i'll finish talking to Shoshin before i want to do anything else.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:38 am
by MariaR
ik Chara wouldn't hammer without my consent <3

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:43 am
by the worst
Fair take. I'm at a loss for whether that comes from town PP or scum PP though.

this is actually looking more coherent than expected. I'm more concerned about certain players than others in that pool right now but I think rn more content will help me a lot.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 11:56 am
by Dunnstral
I don't understand why so many people suspect deas?

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:24 pm
by Shoshin
In post 1552, Chara wrote:what's your preferred way?
In an ideal world, I'd cast a few votes to indicate my top suspect and maybe ask a few questions to indicate the direction of my scumhunting process - and it'd be apparent I was town. But when I try that it usually leads to lots of suspicion so I have to adapt to the players I'm with. I thought my questions were pretty good ones here but apparently that's not enough, so I suppose I'll try making cases.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:26 pm
by Shoshin
In post 1558, Chara wrote:i actually think Penguin knows he hasn't been playing in a way to be townread, and was in turn suspicious of players townreading him. or knows that he hasn't been towny and was going for towncred by saying that. regardless, i don't think it's incorrect to hunt that way.
Why would you think this? Why is it more likely that he's a townie intentionally playing scummy rather than scum who is actually scummy?

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:28 pm
by Shoshin
In post 1562, Dunnstral wrote:I don't understand why so many people suspect deas?
He's disengaged, sort of like me, is my guess.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:51 pm
by ManWithNoName
In post 1548, Shoshin wrote:Alright, fuck it. I'll make some cases on my scumreads. Because apparently that's what you guys need to see that I'm town.
Do pro-town things to be town.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:52 pm
by ManWithNoName
In post 1561, the worst wrote:Fair take. I'm at a loss for whether that comes from town PP or scum PP though.

this is actually looking more coherent than expected. I'm more concerned about certain players than others in that pool right now but I think rn more content will help me a lot.
Where your scumreads at right now if you aren't reading PP as scum?

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:54 pm
by ManWithNoName
In post 1563, Shoshin wrote:
In post 1552, Chara wrote:what's your preferred way?
In an ideal world, I'd cast a few votes to indicate my top suspect and maybe ask a few questions to indicate the direction of my scumhunting process - and it'd be apparent I was town. But when I try that it usually leads to lots of suspicion so I have to adapt to the players I'm with. I thought my questions were pretty good ones here but apparently that's not enough, so I suppose I'll try making cases.
Why are you so concerned with appearing town rather than just playing to a town wincon in order to just help town win?

Super Pro Tip, do town things, and town reads will follow, this much concern about being townread by people troubles me. It troubles me quite a bit.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:57 pm
by the worst
In post 1567, ManWithNoName wrote:
In post 1561, the worst wrote:Fair take. I'm at a loss for whether that comes from town PP or scum PP though.

this is actually looking more coherent than expected. I'm more concerned about certain players than others in that pool right now but I think rn more content will help me a lot.
Where your scumreads at right now if you aren't reading PP as scum?
This is pretty much where I'm at a loss.

I didn't like srceen's contribution a whole lot but I'm gonna take a chance on you for obvious reasons.

Shoshin is bugging the hell out of me. Vaxk was too but is now inno'd. I didn't like Fire but he's a cop so will probs be resolved by night actions.

I liked Maria on play to start off with but I'm not so sure anymore. Also have no idea how to read her accurately.

The ActionDan/Nahdia slot struck me as townish but honestly the cases there are starting to make sense for scum. But this is also s vacant slot rn.



So much limbo.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:59 pm
by the worst
Honestly I'm probably talking myself in circles about PP. I could vote there.

Is he L-1 or L-2?

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:00 pm
by the worst
Nvm I want more content

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:03 pm
by ManWithNoName
Think he's L-3? Though, it did take me like 30 minutes to do a votecount on my main just now, so my counting skills are less than stellar.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:04 pm
by the worst
can't count higher than 6 tbh, I think you're doing fine.

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 1:05 pm
by ManWithNoName
So, I'd like a pointed question here. What's the story with Dunn reads? I have been checking his iso and he's kind of null, so, I need some inputs.