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Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:04 pm

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In post 1535, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 1533, Inferno390 wrote:You all should really sheep me on Andy
And I swear I have a really tight case on this, it’s just long enough that it’s going to be easier to do it at a computer than mobile.
Andy is Town. Don’t waste your effort.
Because...?
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Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:06 pm

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Why later

Duck who do you think is scum

You have more townreads than me and I think I have too much
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Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:09 pm

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maybe profii?

I feel like he wasted most of yesterday talking about what happened in rvs
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Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:11 pm

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profii is above my null line but I've accidentally townbinned him after an initial gut scumread before so I have him down to go back to
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Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:12 pm

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Who is below your null line.
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Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:13 pm

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Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:13 pm

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think all teh scumz are in
{Elbirn, Skygazer, xyzzy, HWS}
could be wrong on Inferno or Hit ig

Hit's """guilty'"" on me was terrible
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Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:14 pm

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had MoI and Andy down to look into as well
which is like so so convenient
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Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:27 pm

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Personally after I don’t see myself not voted parking on Chicka’s lynch today unless someone literally drops a guilty (which I don’t think is happening). Yup I see the “Scum would never claim that” WIFOM floating in the thread. Facts are – Mafia lost a powerful role N1 and failed in their mission to kill Town. I think the operative word to describe how they are feeling is like “OMGWTFBBQWEZZZFUCKED”. Chicka has been on people’s lists of acceptable lynches since midday D1. So either she’s scum making a Hail Mary claim (gut with the whole “Lynch me today, maybe tomorrow or never” line she dropped) or Town who is going to never be Nightkilled and be a source of doubt the rest of the game. If she is Town and Vengeful now is the best time to put that ability to the test since we already are +1 on the kill cycle.

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I am also intentionally not saying whether I have further shots to activate and will continue to refuse to do so.
For the record if we do not have a Vig this is the Serial Killer. Way too much worry about being outed by HitAlt which speaks to a defensive mindset which a non-Mafia non-Town player has to have.

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In post 1391, HitAlt wrote:Not in-depth until I know who the Vig is.
But there's a likelihood for two guilties if I'm correct.
Well this is the point where I am going to point blank say you cried wolf Day 1 and you are out of goodwill on “Teehee look how gambitty I am”.

If you honestly think you have effectively two guilties then you should be pushing the issue to the fricken wall with one Mafia dead.

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In post 1550, Inferno390 wrote:Because...?
So while you sit there and give reads with nothing behind them, I’ll just go ahead and put together the association case that incriminates you and your partner, m’kay?
If you happen to be Town maybe instead of quick responding to everything with stupid posts perhaps read the whole page you are posting on. It would help make you look less bad in the future.
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Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:34 pm

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And for the record - things getting down to the wire in the game with no obvious scum suspects left around?

Someone who hard pushed Dram AFTER the claim is scum. Because there was no way the lynch was going through after that claim due to all the reasons stated yesterday. So easily within reason that scum took that window to hardpress for Town cred by pushing for Dram to be lynched when it was completely safe to do so.

If I recall correctly that was basically Worst / Inferno / Brass.

So if the game somehow gets to like Day 6 or 7 with maybe 1 Mafia left don't forget this post people.
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Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:43 pm

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I would love to be SK, I would fucking agree to be leashed as SK so that I could help town and keep doing my thing. I still have not rolled SK, and I am still sad.

I believe I have said this in a game on my alt like 2 days ago, I really want a third party game.
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Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:43 pm

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I actually could be wrong on brass. I need to revisit him later this phase (moar content)


pedit: SK is awful honestly
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Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:44 pm

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In post 1561, the worst wrote:pedit: SK is awful honestly
I don't believe you.
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Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:48 pm

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outliving like 40 other people is shitttt
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Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:48 pm

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In post 1555, Taly wrote:
Rask
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IDK
I feel like you're way more into making friends than enemies
You have so many townreads and like. scumread TW but put him in the sort later pile and you give sus reasons thecaveats
I'm only very wary with scumreading you because regardless of the rest your AtE/ frustration reads somewhat real (not a spot I like to be however)
You're someone I'd put aside in a game but in a game where I might already be townreading too many and like people like andrius chickadee who I thought might be scum are now IDK-probably-not and a lot of people are vouched for in some capacity it's messy
To some extent it's more efficient to look at what might probably be easier to sort out though at least in time efficiency

If TW has something good I want him to say it because why not, but that's even about as much about him as it is you
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Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:50 pm

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In post 1563, the worst wrote:outliving like 40 other people is shitttt
I'm not saying I would be expecting to win, I would just be super excited to have a NK all to myself every night.

I loved in Greatest Idea Mafia when I got to be Town Vigilante. It's so rare for me to get to do something cool like that.

I actually just really like being a non mafia role that has a kill.
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Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:53 pm

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Someone speak to venge usual play.
I played a lot but usually stay away from themes/opens and my very vague memory is like someone like vedith keeping it secret so they can shoot the person they were in a 1v1 with the whole game (then shoots town and loses naturally).
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Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:58 pm

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What do you want to discuss with venge usual play?
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Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:59 pm

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In post 1560, brassherald wrote:I would love to be SK, I would fucking agree to be leashed as SK so that I could help town and keep doing my thing. I still have not rolled SK, and I am still sad.

I believe I have said this in a game on my alt like 2 days ago, I really want a third party game.
I don't get the point of this post

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gave the possibility of you being SK or a Vig when you already said if you were SK, that you'd have claim.

In no world is it optimal or make sense that the SK would be kept alive after a claim, even if they were leashed for awhile, and you'd be debatably going against your wincon.

And if you believed that you were neither the SK or Vig, why are you posting this and making a defense for yourself on why wouldn't be either?
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I'd rather you do this now since you're already withholding some other thoughts.
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Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:01 pm

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I'm just openly complaining.

Like, I go into every game hoping to be able to kill people but also not be mafia. It has not often been successful.
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Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:06 pm

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In post 1568, Taly wrote:
the worst wrote:I actually could be wrong on brass. I need to revisit him later this phase (moar content)
I'd rather you do this now since you're already withholding some other thoughts.
Taly please take a moment to consider how little sense this request makes
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Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:06 pm

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In post 1567, brassherald wrote:What do you want to discuss with venge usual play?
What happens to vengeclaims?
Consequently does it make any sense for scum to claim?
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Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:07 pm

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In post 1559, MagnaofIllusion wrote:And for the record - things getting down to the wire in the game with no obvious scum suspects left around?

Someone who hard pushed Dram AFTER the claim is scum. Because there was no way the lynch was going through after that claim due to all the reasons stated yesterday. So easily within reason that scum took that window to hardpress for Town cred by pushing for Dram to be lynched when it was completely safe to do so.

If I recall correctly that was basically Worst / Inferno / Brass.

So if the game somehow gets to like Day 6 or 7 with maybe 1 Mafia left don't forget this post people.
Wow
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Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:09 pm

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fmpov venge optimal play is same as vig optimal play
shoot through the bottom of the lynchpool
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Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:10 pm

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In post 1571, Raskolnikov wrote:
In post 1567, brassherald wrote:What do you want to discuss with venge usual play?
What happens to vengeclaims?
Consequently does it make any sense for scum to claim?
I think they are generally hanged before mylo or lylo.

I don't think it makes any sense for scum to claim, however, I did once see Momrangal as scum claim to double the day phase on her lynch (I think that might be a Princess) and it was really good to get a town read, so, bold scum could do a vengeful claim.

Is Chick bold as scum? I don't know.
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