In post 1545, Creature wrote:I don't see how it is a crumb and not just one scumread any scum can make on anyone?
Until someone tells us otherwise we should assume Scum nk'd rb. That means rb must have done something that stood out (aka SRing them) to scum and they just didn't realize it was a crumb.
You're still arguing it's a crumb though.
I believe it is a crumb. If you don't, that's your prerogative.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:07 am
by BrightEyedFish
In post 1549, Creature wrote:It'd be more effective if we just ignored whatever crumb rb possibly did and just focused on determining why rb was NKed.
I think he was NK'd because he was openly SRing all scum members and they panicked and shot him.
In post 1549, Creature wrote:It'd be more effective if we just ignored whatever crumb rb possibly did and just focused on determining why rb was NKed.
I think he was NK'd because he was openly SRing all scum members and they panicked and shot him.
We can lynch someone who wasn't a part of rb's "crumbs" and if whoever that is flips town, we will be right back where we are now. So, imo, it would be better to address the "crumbs" now and then if they are not valid then we can move on.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:11 am
by mbaki
In post 1549, Creature wrote:It'd be more effective if we just ignored whatever crumb rb possibly did and just focused on determining why rb was NKed.
In post 1549, Creature wrote:It'd be more effective if we just ignored whatever crumb rb possibly did and just focused on determining why rb was NKed.
I think he was NK'd because he was openly SRing all scum members and they panicked and shot him.
We're back to:
In post 181, Vorkuta wrote:@rb- are you like... breadcrumbing with your 'wow's everywhere?
Is this your scumtell?
As for the Yyotta lynch- she won't come back except to basically 'prod-dodge'.
She pulls this stuff in her other games with her acting surprised an RVS vote, and the resulting 'why meeee?'
I'd support the policy lynch on her, but it's very much NAI, and her flip either way won't give us anything (unless we jackpot a scum PR )
In post 1549, Creature wrote:It'd be more effective if we just ignored whatever crumb rb possibly did and just focused on determining why rb was NKed.
I think he was NK'd because he was openly SRing all scum members and they panicked and shot him.
We're back to:
In post 181, Vorkuta wrote:@rb- are you like... breadcrumbing with your 'wow's everywhere?
Is this your scumtell?
As for the Yyotta lynch- she won't come back except to basically 'prod-dodge'.
She pulls this stuff in her other games with her acting surprised an RVS vote, and the resulting 'why meeee?'
I'd support the policy lynch on her, but it's very much NAI, and her flip either way won't give us anything (unless we jackpot a scum PR )
In post 1545, Creature wrote:I don't see how it is a crumb and not just one scumread any scum can make on anyone?
Until someone tells us otherwise we should assume Scum nk'd rb. That means rb must have done something that stood out (aka SRing them) to scum and they just didn't realize it was a crumb.
You're still arguing it's a crumb though.
I believe it is a crumb. If you don't, that's your prerogative.
probably scum trying to pocket me by townreading me for saying wow[/quote]
In post 160, rb wrote:wow suka's reads are 'maybe the scum are crossbussing for no reason on day1' imo
i think that's dumb but i do think DDL is scum and nero is town imo, so i can sort of accept that point of view on the basis that their interactions feel scummy tbh imo wow so true imo
In post 1549, Creature wrote:It'd be more effective if we just ignored whatever crumb rb possibly did and just focused on determining why rb was NKed.
Was he killed for scumreading Vorkuta?
Would assume an inexperienced partner.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:15 am
by Creature
mbaki simply wouldn't fit.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:18 am
by BrightEyedFish
@Creature
If you help us lynch vork and he flips town, I will follow your lead tomorrow. Because if vork flips town then I am on the wrong path and will have to get myself back on track from a different angle.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:19 am
by BrightEyedFish
Basically, nothing short of a claim or someone confirming that scum did not NK rb will get me off the vork wagon.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:20 am
by mbaki
In post 1443, OkaPoka wrote:there are more people than just mbaki who dont like the activity level
In my land someone blatantly prod-dodging, refusing to do shit and thread-dodging is always lynched with fire.
Yea. I would kill Varsoon, but rb was townreading Varsoon. We still need to find the at least one scum slot rb was pushing that caused him to get night killed before we go after people like Varsoon.
In post 1437, Dannflor wrote:the case on mbaki is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I've seen
This is a great site, isn't it? It's going to be extra fun tomorrow when you get night killed and they're back to pushing me.
If you help us lynch vork and he flips town, I will follow your lead tomorrow. Because if vork flips town then I am on the wrong path and will have to get myself back on track from a different angle.
The problem is: are you town?
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:21 am
by Creature
Actually I could consider doing DDL
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:22 am
by Creature
I just don't think rb has been crumbing DDL scum unless in a very specific post in a very specific way rather than through votes
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:23 am
by mbaki
In post 1469, Dannflor wrote:Scum just doesn't self vote, not experienced players. It never plays to their win condition unless it's a hammer. Rarely, town can self vote and it does play to their win condition.
I said this too. It doesn't work here.
You need to talk to me on Vorkuta, because I agree fish's posting is bad (I pushed them d1) and I still don't think I can ever unvote Vorkuta here. I think he's just scum and you are overthinking.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:27 am
by Vorkuta
ELI5- What's the wincon for a traitor IF the traitor is dead?
Does said traitor still win with a scum victory or a town victory?
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:30 am
by BrightEyedFish
In post 1566, Vorkuta wrote:ELI5- What's the wincon for a traitor IF the traitor is dead?
Does said traitor still win with a scum victory or a town victory?
Then why would rb breadcrumb scum if it goes against rb's wincon?
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:34 am
by Creature
I may be wrong about Vork, but I don't think I am wrong about the existence of crumbs.
Even if Vork flips town, it won't guarantee someone will go back to rb's ISO looking for "real crumbs" and pull another extremely shitty mislynch instead of doing the just usual scumhunting.
It's my job to put all this traitor crumb to rest and just go back to the old normal scumhunting, you can even convince me Vork is scum, as long you actually use his posts as argument and not rb's.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:35 am
by Creature
Also if rb is bad for not crumbing. Well, I am part of the particular set of players that never crumb as mafia traitor and I believe rb is also part of that set.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:36 am
by Creature
I think traitor should just hang low enough to not be lynched. Like, I can start scumtelling in a way my partners would deduce it's me but not town.
Or I can just stick with the former because I'm likely not getting nightkilled anyway.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:39 am
by mbaki
Even Vorkuta's dumb questions on this page feel disingenuous to me, a good sign if conf bias.
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:39 am
by BrightEyedFish
In post 1569, Creature wrote:I may be wrong about Vork, but I don't think I am wrong about the existence of crumbs.
Even if Vork flips town, it won't guarantee someone will go back to rb's ISO looking for "real crumbs" and pull another extremely shitty mislynch instead of doing the just usual scumhunting.
It's my job to put all this traitor crumb to rest and just go back to the old normal scumhunting, you can even convince me Vork is scum, as long you actually use his posts as argument and not rb's.
Do you think vork should claim?
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:40 am
by Creature
tbh I wouldn't mind, specially if his claim could end all this bullshit for good.