Mini Normal 2125: Chiptune Mafia [The End]

[eyestott]

So many new people! Welcome, Something_Smart and Firebringer! I'm the resident idiot/universal townread :/
Firebringer, are you planning on catching up on the previous posts, or starting fresh?
As far as I can tell, S_S, you've chosen the latter, yes?

[Something_Smart]

Not sure yet. I'll check out Taly's ISOs, at least.

[popsofctown]

Is ISOs plural because you edited your post to be less generous?

Or because you're going to read his iso in this thread and also in a pt?

[Something_Smart]

The ISO analyses that Taly is doing.

[popsofctown]

Oh no you're not even going to read one person's iso

[Luca Blight]

V/la weekend

[Taly]

Major Insight
Tbh at this moment, Y'shtola only makes sense as scum if she has AT LEAST ONE PARTNER in {Luca/Ame/Pops/Paragon} by 1007's post and the consistent suspicion on her from the more active players to be bus-minded. But then again, I think Y'shtola is town based off what I'm seeing, so this is just a boundary on the realities I can see her as scum.

I don't know, Y'shtola being scum in a reality that's not like the above... like bravo, how the fuck can this be faked? I want to be challenged on this.

Let's talk about this then. Can you explain it in a bit more depth? Where did that list come from?

I just don't follow the consistent notion that

Y'shtola

is passive and providing no content when it's really the fault of everybody else just not critically evaluating her. It feels like an easy push for scum or a bus target.

I know

Pops

voted her ;-; I thought more of

Luca/Paragon/Ame

had voted her.

392 433 543 666 and 667 felt like an interesting progression from her since she is one of the most sensible people correlated to the wagon on

Pops/Paragon

, then follows

Ame

on the

Pops

vote which leads to presumably nowhere. Her interaction with

Luca

started as a push and settled quickly.

Best Points-

A Sin Eater is a being with few words and fewer actions. A Sin Eater's actions being to idly push a single narrative is a reasonable assumption, for those who would give in to their base instincts of feasting on living aether become similar in demeanor. However, those who would later expand on that narrative and show themselves to have more riding beneath the surface than idle chatter! Those are more like the Warriors of Light I know.

I don't get why

Y'shtola

-scum would signal scumbuddies within the less active players of the thread. This doesn't look good in any scumflip within

Ame/Luca/Paragon/Pops

off my first thought.

1071 reinforces this read of the gamestate, so it made me think my insight had credibility.

Major Insight
Tbh at this moment, Y'shtola only makes sense as scum if she has AT LEAST ONE PARTNER in {Luca/Ame/Pops/Paragon} by 1007's post and the consistent suspicion on her from the more active players to be bus-minded. But then again, I think Y'shtola is town based off what I'm seeing, so this is just a boundary on the realities I can see her as scum.

I don't know, Y'shtola being scum in a reality that's not like the above... like bravo, how the fuck can this be faked? I want to be challenged on this.

Let's talk about this then. Can you explain it in a bit more depth? Where did that list come from?

Let me try this again.

Are you talking about the partner list of {Luca/Ame/Pops/Paragon}? Because I'm wondering about that too. I think Y'shtola can be read scum independently.

What's the scumread on here and we're >3 days to deadline so you should do something here...

Ultimately, I think

Y'shtola

is town anyway.

[Taly]

Blake, I could settle on Fuzzy for today but what if I tell you I'm getting a deja-vu on your strong TR in Taly? Not budging?

Look at associatives between Fuzzy x Taly that I talked about. Not even a finger of self-doubt?

I just ISO'd

Fuzzy

, put that into your case since you're not getting much ground.

Just a thought.

[Taly]

oof, I'm going to be doing people's work for them...

Alo/NDMath/Luca

are actually next ISOs.

Luca

, I'm having a lot of trouble fathoming the votepark wagon on

NDMath

.

For 50+ pages of content, a replace-in getting the lynch for a

"bad readslist"

that's no worse than most other readslist in this game - AND has expressed that they haven't provided a full train of thought... it's just doesn't feel lynch-worthy, or overtly scum-indicative.

With this stagnant voting near EoD1, I'm starting to think most of scum have casted their votes and have consistently bloc'ed onto one of the day's major wagons, potentially even the current ones

Fuzzy/NDMath

.

I believe town is on that wagon, but I don't think it's scum-pushed... If the problem people have with

NDMath

is

"their reasoning being faked"

then why don't they put effort in themselves to read them?

Regardless of

NDMath's

alignment, I don't think this wagon is getting anywhere other than one of the stalest ass lynches that we could pull right now.

I'm thoroughly unconvinced and I'm even more vexed that people aren't trying to convince me. It's sketchy as hell considering the gamestate.

[Taly]

f the problem people have with

NDMath

is

"their reasoning being faked"

then why don't they put effort in themselves to read them?

also, inb4 I have more people associative-read me scum with

Luca, NDMath, Fuzzy, Wiisp's Slot or even Blake

.

[eyestott]

oof, I'm going to be doing people's work for them...

Alo/NDMath/Luca

are actually next ISOs.

Luca

, I'm having a lot of trouble fathoming the votepark wagon on

NDMath

.

For 50+ pages of content, a replace-in getting the lynch for a

"bad readslist"

that's no worse than most other readslist in this game - AND has expressed that they haven't provided a full train of thought... it's just doesn't feel lynch-worthy, or overtly scum-indicative.

With this stagnant voting near EoD1, I'm starting to think most of scum have casted their votes and have consistently bloc'ed onto one of the day's major wagons, potentially even the current ones

Fuzzy/NDMath

.

I believe town is on that wagon, but I don't think it's scum-pushed... If the problem people have with

NDMath

is

"their reasoning being faked"

then why don't they put effort in themselves to read them?

Regardless of

NDMath's

alignment, I don't think this wagon is getting anywhere other than one of the stalest ass lynches that we could pull right now.

I'm thoroughly unconvinced and I'm even more vexed that people aren't trying to convince me. It's sketchy as hell considering the gamestate.

Very good point, Taly. Specifically that last line. UNVOTE:
If you had some voting power; who would you have lynched today?

[Taly]

f the problem people have with

NDMath

is

"their reasoning being faked"

then why don't they put effort in themselves to read them?

also, inb4 I have more people associative-read me scum with

Luca, NDMath, Fuzzy, Wiisp's Slot or even Blake

.

omfg i hate quotes

but I

think

it's

likelier

scum-pushed

p-edit

oof, I'm going to be doing people's work for them...

Alo/NDMath/Luca

are actually next ISOs.

Luca

, I'm having a lot of trouble fathoming the votepark wagon on

NDMath

.

For 50+ pages of content, a replace-in getting the lynch for a

"bad readslist"

that's no worse than most other readslist in this game - AND has expressed that they haven't provided a full train of thought... it's just doesn't feel lynch-worthy, or overtly scum-indicative.

With this stagnant voting near EoD1, I'm starting to think most of scum have casted their votes and have consistently bloc'ed onto one of the day's major wagons, potentially even the current ones

Fuzzy/NDMath

.

I believe town is on that wagon, but I don't think it's scum-pushed... If the problem people have with

NDMath

is

"their reasoning being faked"

then why don't they put effort in themselves to read them?

Regardless of

NDMath's

alignment, I don't think this wagon is getting anywhere other than one of the stalest ass lynches that we could pull right now.

I'm thoroughly unconvinced and I'm even more vexed that people aren't trying to convince me. It's sketchy as hell considering the gamestate.

Very good point, Taly. Specifically that last line. UNVOTE:
If you had some voting power; who would you have lynched today?

I really wanted to hear

Churros

out, but the fact that they dismissed my POV, voted me, and is just sitting there does not feel genuine, tbh.

Like, if you were town, are you going to throw out a readslist within less than hours of replacing-in, vote and push to hardwagon at suspected slot late-D1, and then not contribute?

Churros

has some valid points, but gamestate, tone, and behavior all push to scum. :/

The problem? Town can play this way. And I really don't vibe with that.

[Taly]

Churros

being the off-wagon scum if there's a 3p team, in the gamestate read I gave above.

[Taly]

Pops

hasn't done a thing to make me reevaluate my scumread based off her recent posting, but

AtE is kryptonite.

So :/ I don't want to her think I dislike her.

And I should ISO her... and she hopped off

NDMath

when he got to L-3.

Luca

is probable scum if

NDMath's

wagon contains another scum... But I addressed

Luca

in the above post so I can help sort through that.

Paragon

, idk. I don't know how to read him, tbh.

[Luca Blight]

With regards to my ‘vote park’, I was waiting ages for Math to explain himself, and what I’ve seen hasn’t made me feel any better about him. I need to catch up on a lot but I’m feeling really demotivated to play Mafia right now.

[Taly]

Blake/Wiisp

being scumbuddies on

Fuzzy

would be a mindfuck since I feel that

Blake

is town and wasn't sold on a

Wiisp

lynch until his replace-out.

And idk about

S_S

yet, very few opinions of the game so I have very few opinions of him since he just got here.

FB needs a hug <3 *hugs*

p-edit

With regards to my ‘vote park’, I was waiting ages for Math to explain himself, and what I’ve seen hasn’t made me feel any better about him. I need to catch up on a lot but I’m feeling really demotivated to play Mafia right now.

Understandable.

Actually, I can see

Churros

-scum without gamestate read, tbh.

[Taly]

wasn't sold on a Wiisp lynch

even at

his replace-out.

[Taly]

Actually, I can see Churros-scum without gamestate read, tbh.

VOTE: Churros

Perhaps you'll take me seriously now.

[Aloratom]

When you look to identify play by Y'shtola Rhul, you can expect to find play by Y'shtola Rhul.

Can you explain what you mean here?

Signs that Y'shtola Rhul are playing are what you find when looking for signs that Y'shtola Rhul are playing.

It is self-evident, for the two are one and the same.

Does a Sin Eater recognize a threat to their existence? Those who have much to lose from their peers view those peers in a different light than those who would act for a higher purpose. Awareness grows, as one misstep may make the difference between an encapsulating crescendo and the illusion of falling off a tightrope overwhelming you.

Warriors of Light need only save themselves by telling the truth and trusting those who listen will recognize it as such. For stories that cannot be disproven, this will never result in damnation, only salvation or an extension of the trial of the heart. Sin Eaters must consider that by their own mouth, their damnation may be assured. This pressure creates a difference in posture, their words less reflective of their heart, their stances based on survival rather than truth.

For this case, which prevails? The thoughts ring true relative to their past testimony, their stances the same, their uncertainty reflective of their absence. Why then, say you, would a Sin Eater return for such a small token of their continued thoughts continuing when such thoughts brought them ire before? It is preposterous, for a Sin Eater must convince the town with honeyed words and conceived pretense to cover their darkened thoughts. Such is not the case, for none as such is present.

You don' t like to initiate conversation, do you? I notice that you ask vague questions and talk about theory but you dance around specifics. Why should I not scum read you?

Listen well, for my words provide the wisdom you seek. You need only read beyond what is present to your eyes. Read with your heart.

What's the scumread on here and we're >3 days to deadline so you should do something here...

Those posts don't answer my questions. She's been speaking in vagueries for the most part since we started and not playing the game near as I can tell.

[Aloratom]

One thing I don't like about my SR of Blake/Y'shtola is I don't think she'd bus a scum partner so early, and right now her vote is on Fuzzy, who I also have a SR on. So I don't know. That makes me look toward NDMath more.

[Something_Smart]

What do you mean "look toward"?

[Aloratom]

oof, I'm going to be doing people's work for them...

Alo/NDMath/Luca

are actually next ISOs.

Luca

, I'm having a lot of trouble fathoming the votepark wagon on

NDMath

.

For 50+ pages of content, a replace-in getting the lynch for a

"bad readslist"

that's no worse than most other readslist in this game - AND has expressed that they haven't provided a full train of thought... it's just doesn't feel lynch-worthy, or overtly scum-indicative.

With this stagnant voting near EoD1, I'm starting to think most of scum have casted their votes and have consistently bloc'ed onto one of the day's major wagons, potentially even the current ones

Fuzzy/NDMath

.

I believe town is on that wagon, but I don't think it's scum-pushed... If the problem people have with

NDMath

is

"their reasoning being faked"

then why don't they put effort in themselves to read them?

Regardless of

NDMath's

alignment, I don't think this wagon is getting anywhere other than one of the stalest ass lynches that we could pull right now.

I'm thoroughly unconvinced and I'm even more vexed that people aren't trying to convince me. It's sketchy as hell considering the gamestate.

Very good point, Taly. Specifically that last line. UNVOTE:
If you had some voting power; who would you have lynched today?

The last line as in no one is trying to convince Taly? I don't see how that would convince you to change your vote. I could see how his point about scum maybe being on that wagon might though.

[Aloratom]

What do you mean "look toward"?

As in look harder at. I had a SR there, but they or someone else posted something that made me want to take another look at them -- I don't remember right now. I just need to follow up.

[Aloratom]

Disagree on basic stuff like "what is protown?", "what is inherently scummy?", "when is wifom used?" and similar stuff which apply to all games and many situations in those games.

How would that change your read of me this game? Actually, how would you determine that to begin with? I don't think we've played together before have we?

[nomnomnom]

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