In post 1549, Nero Cain wrote:i'll get to it. if it something I was totally convinced of I'd be voting you.
oh so nothing is there, cool.
like I've already kinda explained it so I'm not sure why you are jumping down my throat here. I would say this is false bravado but I've played with you and I know you are vengefully snappish like this. In fact it's the reason why I lightly suspected you. You didn't snap @ Farside and I thought that was very odd.
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:34 am
by davesaz
I would like to clearly state that I disapprove of 5G and Voted's approach to the game.
On top of that I explicitly scumread them for it. A vote there would not be policy.
the point is for you to do something different under you own ambitions.
Why dont you want me to make any strong stances atm?
Your case on me is weak.
not as weak as your pushes.
I guess we should keep all those people around until Lylo because surely they will up their game by then.
I'm after bigger game anyways...
VOTE: EspeciallyTheLies
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:36 am
by Nero Cain
but you were aware of it and I explained it in the post so I don't really understand why you are pretending like I "had nothing"
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:36 am
by davesaz
Remembered between hitting submit and the page refreshing that Hoctac is probably on that same list.
They can't all be scum because it would be too many. And whomever said that eliminating the good scum first is better was right.
Pedit: I agree in principle with Alchemist as a wagon but would need to re-read to find out if I've missed something or if the memory is correct.
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:37 am
by Auro
In post 1560, davesaz wrote:On top of that I explicitly scumread them for it
For the approach? Don't you think it was decided pregame, at least in 5G's case?
In post 1549, Nero Cain wrote:i'll get to it. if it something I was totally convinced of I'd be voting you.
oh so nothing is there, cool.
like I've already kinda explained it so I'm not sure why you are jumping down my throat here. I would say this is false bravado but I've played with you and I know you are vengefully snappish like this. In fact it's the reason why I lightly suspected you. You didn't snap @ Farside and I thought that was very odd.
if i can see a justifiable perspective for someone to sr me I tend to TR them for it. Especially early game.
I do tend to get a little more aggressive mid to late game. And if I find someones play inexcusable id become very harsh. That has more so to do with ppl going out of their way to play the game against their wincon from my perspective though. Ik im not the end all be all but i feel I have a decent grasp. I'll admit im wrong sometimes.
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:39 am
by davesaz
ETL is tentatively a TR. Her thoughts seem town motivated. It's only tentative because I vaguely remember her being very reactive as scum and I can't say I equally remember her being reactive as town.
In post 1560, davesaz wrote:On top of that I explicitly scumread them for it
For the approach? Don't you think it was decided pregame, at least in 5G's case?
Because I have a fairly decent track record of identifying the instances where "not appearing to scumhunt" ends up being scum, and they most certainly don't appear to be scumhunting.
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:42 am
by davesaz
Oh, I might have missed something about that question.
Meme / gimmick alts might be decided pregame but inevitably they find the need to actually contribute when they're town.
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:42 am
by Auro
My contention is that 5G probably entered the game with the intent of purely memeing, from the specific gimmick and how it relates to the game theme.
How do you identify instances of "non scumhunting gimmicks" being scum?
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:43 am
by Auro
Ah, so you believe it's that we have reached the point where gimmicks would also contribute, and hence they're scum for it? Hm
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:44 am
by Auro
It's interesting that you feel mid D1 is that point though. I feel like it's too early to expect most gimmick/meme alts to shed it and start playing.
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:45 am
by Auro
Ari: that's all you have to say? Also whatsup
Posted: Fri May 08, 2020 8:48 am
by Nero Cain
In post 1566, Tchill13 wrote:That has more so to do with ppl going out of their way to play the game against their wincon from my perspective though.
I mean sure, I think alot of green pms are stupidly OMGUSy. I think these last 2 or so times when I've flipped scum there were all like "oh I get the case on me." and its just really weird. I mean, there's a decent amount of scum motivation to town read the person that is scum reading you.
Can you show me some examples of town you town reading players for scum reading you?
