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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:34 am
by Emperor flippyNips
In post 1548, notscience wrote:That’s fine because I’m pretty confident after I flip green prana goes tomorrow
nobody's voting you? or have even talked about voting you really
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:42 am
by notscience
I’m responding the bms threat
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:40 am
by Hoopla
In post 1523, Emperor flippyNips wrote:Hi I’m here. I got some errands to run before I really start going, but I do want to say this. I fibbed about my role. I really had two shots, I sent a fruit to BM and he’s unarmed
hmmm, so this means outside of traitor screwiness, bm can only be scum with flippy. i'm not sure if these two have the cajones to pull off a team gambit like that, but we should be able to solve the setup via massclaim (which should happen tomorrow imo).
strange. i was so confident in a bm/prana scumteam. looks like i have to do slightly more thinking.
anyway
UNVOTE:
VOTE: prana
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:50 am
by notscience
Flippy is a fruit vendor regardless bc una conformed it
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:04 am
by Battle Mage
In post 1552, Hoopla wrote: In post 1523, Emperor flippyNips wrote:Hi I’m here. I got some errands to run before I really start going, but I do want to say this. I fibbed about my role. I really had two shots, I sent a fruit to BM and he’s unarmed
hmmm, so this means outside of traitor screwiness, bm can only be scum with flippy. i'm not sure if these two have the cajones to pull off a team gambit like that, but we should be able to solve the setup via massclaim (which should happen tomorrow imo).
strange. i was so confident in a bm/prana scumteam. looks like i have to do slightly more thinking.
anyway
UNVOTE:
VOTE: prana
"looks like i have to do slightly more thinking....ah fuck that, let's just jump on the biggest wagon, despite my logic falling apart again!"
Oh how I laughed!
And you're still trying to push me as scum, even now? Desperate, not coming from genuine inquisitive, responsive town here.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:05 am
by UnaBombaH
In post 1520, PranaDevil wrote:I would have watched Agar, but because notscience so kindly made a thing about it in thread, it turned the whole fucking thing into a WIFOM deal. And he fucking knows it.
You're either scum or just objectively WRONG here.
![:]](./images/smilies/icon_smiling.png "Cheerful Smile")
If the scum leave the roleblocker alive, they risk missing another nightkill.
And since they are more or less forced to kill there, you'd get a result.
Deciding not to target AGar is 100% the wrong choice, and obv. especially now that we have seen the end result there's no "if"s about it.
My point might as well be on Prana right now, but I intend to read/write something before.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:06 am
by Battle Mage
I've also confirmed it - you might have missed it...
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:06 am
by Hoopla
In post 1523, Emperor flippyNips wrote:Hi I’m here. I got some errands to run before I really start going, but I do want to say this. I fibbed about my role. I really had two shots, I sent a fruit to BM and he’s unarmed
yes, but there's a chance that flippy could be scum-aligned, is what i mean.
2-shot gunsmith/full watcher is a lot of investigation power - especially when town was given a roleblocker (capable of pseudo-investigations).
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:09 am
by Battle Mage
Well that's the day pretty much over. I'll simply say, if Prana flips scum it's a stroke of luck, and if Prana flips town, y'all are idiots, and I should get to decide tomorrow's lynch. Regardless, a terrible play, and a waste of a day, achieving nothing we couldn't have done later.
Also I'll formally claim:
Bulletproof Townie
No Vig powers unfortunately, but I'm resistant to bullets.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:10 am
by UnaBombaH
No, IF flippy is town, we are all town. (barring scum!Doc but that is pointless to talk today)
AND IF FLIPPY IS SCUM, EVEN THEN ONE OF ME/BM IS TOWN, so that discussion is also pointless today.
We lynch Prana to push the PoE forward, and you can all ISO me if they flip scum.
So far it seems at least some of my earlier reads were correct.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:10 am
by Hoopla
In post 1554, Battle Mage wrote:And you're still trying to push me as scum, even now? Desperate, not coming from genuine inquisitive, responsive town here.
i'm currently reevaluating.
keep your pants on.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:13 am
by Battle Mage
In post 1560, Hoopla wrote: In post 1554, Battle Mage wrote:And you're still trying to push me as scum, even now? Desperate, not coming from genuine inquisitive, responsive town here.
i'm currently reevaluating.
keep your pants on.
you can't just change your mind in light of new evidence? with me, it's a pretty quick process - I don't feel the need to progress gradually to avoid making any wrong moves, if you catch my drift.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:14 am
by Hoopla
@battle mage.
why did you blindly believe agar's roleblocker claim, when from your perspective the no-kill could have been explained from scum targeting you?
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:14 am
by Battle Mage
In post 1559, UnaBombaH wrote:No, IF flippy is town, we are all town. (barring scum!Doc but that is pointless to talk today)
AND IF FLIPPY IS SCUM, EVEN THEN ONE OF ME/BM IS TOWN, so that discussion is also pointless today.
We lynch Prana to push the PoE forward, and you can all ISO me if they flip scum.
So far it seems at least some of my earlier reads were correct.
I fail to see how lynching Prana progresses any PoE - it's about the least informative lynch we could muster. Just a hope and prayer it flips red.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:16 am
by notscience
My point was in reference e of a scum team with you and flippy.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:16 am
by Battle Mage
In post 1562, Hoopla wrote:
@battle mage.
why did you blindly believe agar's roleblocker claim, when from your perspective the no-kill could have been explained from scum targeting you?
Are you seriously still trying to shade me? I'm confirmed-town remember, try doing some actual scumhunting.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:17 am
by Hoopla
In post 1561, Battle Mage wrote:you can't just change your mind in light of new evidence? with me, it's a pretty quick process - I don't feel the need to progress gradually to avoid making any wrong moves, if you catch my drift.
believe it or not, my take on the game comes from a thoughtful place. new evidence requires thinking.
we do have
way too much
power claimed, though. so i'm trying to work out who is most likely lying.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:17 am
by UnaBombaH
AGar was more or less conf!town the second Klick flipped Red.
Plus they were our protective AND had shown good instinct with their N1 result. Versus Prana being unconfirmed and even with a claimed guilty today could be counterlynched.. Scum were already in a bad spot, and they didn't want to do either, but had to pick one.
Also, I'd argue Occams suggests scum didn't have to fear a Watcher, because Prana is scum.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:18 am
by notscience
Who the fuck would have wasted a night kill on you bm
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:18 am
by Battle Mage
you what!?
Jesus, this game is hard work. Let's lynch our strongest claimed town PR rather than doing any new scumhunting, with all our conf-town players still alive, and then tomorrow we can go for either the cop or the bulletproof confirmed townie.
I'm glad we're going back to night phase, because
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:19 am
by Hoopla
In post 1565, Battle Mage wrote:Are you seriously still trying to shade me? I'm confirmed-town remember, try doing some actual scumhunting.
you're actually not, so perhaps tone the screeching down a little.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:20 am
by UnaBombaH
In post 1563, Battle Mage wrote:I fail to see how lynching Prana progresses any PoE - it's about the least informative lynch we could muster. Just a hope and prayer it flips red.
Absolutely not true.
If Prana flip town, there's scum on the wagon as of now, guaranteed.
And you have a conf.town in me and BM.
And I had a scumread on Prana anyway.
I see no reason why they shouldn't be the lynch today.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:21 am
by notscience
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:21 am
by UnaBombaH
I still think there's no need to rush the lynch though.
Let's all compare notes while we're here.
Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:22 am
by UnaBombaH
It's a little beyond midnight here though, so I'm off to bed first.
