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nope, i've bent over backwards to try and help you develop and improve. i'm disappointed that you've responded as you have, but ultimately I'm here to try and have an enjoyable game and play for a town-win. If you're just planning to vote me all game out of petulance, and rant and rave whenever anyone calls you out about gameplay stuff, then we're clearly better off elimming you Day 1. I think there's a decent enough chance you could be scum anyway. You can be as salty as you like about that, but it's just my opinion.

and even in spite of all your shenanigans and distractions, you'll note I'm still actually voting for somebody I scumread for actual reasons. big tick BM

for clarity, I'm voting

Datisi why are you voting for teacher?

Mena where am I in ur reads?

fucked if I know

below null but mostly bc I can't be fucked to do the effort of trying to re-evaluate your slot rn

In post 1553, Menalque wrote:Datisi why are you voting for teacher?

he's a scumlean, i still think BM's more likely town than not, and the shelly wagon seems to be kinda dead/dying

pedit: mood

In post 1553, Menalque wrote:Datisi why are you voting for teacher?

the bigger question is, why aren't you?

In post 1557, Datisi wrote:

In post 1553, Menalque wrote:Datisi why are you voting for teacher?

he's a scumlean, i still think BM's more likely town than not, and the shelly wagon seems to be kinda dead/dying

pedit: mood

shelly wagon dying means... unvoting it and helping it to die is a good idea?

In post 1558, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 1553, Menalque wrote:Datisi why are you voting for teacher?

the bigger question is, why aren't you?

because I'd prefer we stop fucking around and just flip shelly

we're already at 63 pages

let's stop the foreplay and find out what alignment she is

you were happy to declare intent yesterday why not now

why is every town so fucking intransigent on the concept of just flipping a scummy slot early and insists instead on going to deadline every fucking time when there's literally concrete evidence that NOT doing that increases town winrates

In post 896, Alonzo wrote:Also interested who Taylor , Shelly and TGP think scum on their wagon might be.

But what do you think of the alignment of those 3 players though? And why?

As you seem to be asking them a very leading question.


I assume you read Taylor as scum as in your reads you have TS 1230 displayed at the bottom of a tier read list. Yet in the same post you have said you're deferring your read of taylor and shelly alignment to the crowd.


Although nowhere other than that can i see any clear read in your iso on taylor. A few comments here but nothing related to a read and a reason.


And in your read list i can't see shelly or tgp. With the only thing on tgp being in posts 1100. When searching tgp in your iso. All I see is you saying you don't disagree much about goldens read list. And a poor attempt at humor that feels like shade towards me. Because you didn't get an immediate post from someone asleep.

teacher you should vote shelly

@bunno I'll cut you a deal and we can do Taylor either way tomorrow if you vote shelly today right here right now, one time offer

shelly claimed vt. that means she's either vt or scum. why do u think she's scum mena?

In post 1086, Menalque wrote:okay, I'm going to have a think about this but my initial impression is still that I don't think it's adding up, and that you're changing your reads to keep them inline with general trends in the gamestate and are having difficulty explaining how you established certain reads or are giving very vague answers which allow you avoid responsibility or elaborating on what you precisely believed at certain points

I think that's it in terms of questions for you rn, I don't think there's anything fruitful to ask you further and I think it will just spam the thread up

thanks for responding tho

bc of this @noraa

In post 1561, Menalque wrote:we're already at 63 pages

and how many of those pages are actually useful as opposed to fluffy garbage and whatever BM and noraa are doing

like i'm not saying we need to put off any execution until 5 seconds before deadline because that is moronic, but i'd also like ~more~ before we end the day (at 4 days left?) because even if shelly does flip scum, tomorrow is gonna be more of a headache

In post 1566, Menalque wrote:

In post 1086, Menalque wrote:okay, I'm going to have a think about this but my initial impression is still that I don't think it's adding up, and that you're changing your reads to keep them inline with general trends in the gamestate and are having difficulty explaining how you established certain reads or are giving very vague answers which allow you avoid responsibility or elaborating on what you precisely believed at certain points

I think that's it in terms of questions for you rn, I don't think there's anything fruitful to ask you further and I think it will just spam the thread up

thanks for responding tho

bc of this @noraa

i guarantee that even if you hadnt answered that, noraa would have found her way onto the shelly wagon. I caught her paving the way for it earlier with that coy "so you're at -2 huh?"

shelly is scummy. she's been scummy, and she will continue to be scummy. the day is at 63 pages with plenty of content. worst case scenario we're losing a VT. at this point continuing to run the day long is not going to get us a whole lot of anything other than apathy and increased difficulty in sorting back through on later days

In post 1567, Datisi wrote:

In post 1561, Menalque wrote:we're already at 63 pages

and how many of those pages are actually useful as opposed to fluffy garbage and

whatever BM and noraa are doing

BM being awesome
like i'm not saying we need to put off any execution until 5 seconds before deadline because that is moronic, but i'd also like ~more~ before we end the day (at 4 days left?) because even if shelly does flip scum, tomorrow is gonna be more of a headache

agreed

In post 1568, Battle Mage wrote:

In post 1566, Menalque wrote:

In post 1086, Menalque wrote:okay, I'm going to have a think about this but my initial impression is still that I don't think it's adding up, and that you're changing your reads to keep them inline with general trends in the gamestate and are having difficulty explaining how you established certain reads or are giving very vague answers which allow you avoid responsibility or elaborating on what you precisely believed at certain points

I think that's it in terms of questions for you rn, I don't think there's anything fruitful to ask you further and I think it will just spam the thread up

thanks for responding tho

bc of this @noraa

i guarantee that even if you hadnt answered that, noraa would have found her way onto the shelly wagon. I caught her paving the way for it earlier with that coy "so you're at -2 huh?"

cool, I literally don't care so long as she votes shelly

In post 1566, Menalque wrote:

In post 1086, Menalque wrote:okay, I'm going to have a think about this but my initial impression is still that I don't think it's adding up, and that you're changing your reads to keep them inline with general trends in the gamestate and are having difficulty explaining how you established certain reads or are giving very vague answers which allow you avoid responsibility or elaborating on what you precisely believed at certain points

I think that's it in terms of questions for you rn, I don't think there's anything fruitful to ask you further and I think it will just spam the thread up

thanks for responding tho

bc of this @noraa

well I mean ... shelly's landed scum like 7 games out of 10 or something. Her playstyle ending up being like this isn't particularly surprising if you ask me. Play too many scumgames and u start looking scummy as hell when ur in a town game.

In post 1569, Menalque wrote:shelly is scummy. she's been scummy, and she will continue to be scummy. the day is at 63 pages with plenty of content. worst case scenario we're losing a VT. at this point continuing to run the day long is not going to get us a whole lot of anything other than apathy and increased difficulty in sorting back through on later days

i disagree and will not discuss it further. i'm not being browbeaten into flipping shelly now. we're running up teacher.

In post 1567, Datisi wrote:

In post 1561, Menalque wrote:we're already at 63 pages

and how many of those pages are actually useful

as opposed to fluffy garbage and whatever BM and noraa are doing

like i'm not saying we need to put off any execution until 5 seconds before deadline because that is moronic, but i'd also like ~more~ before we end the day (at 4 days left?) because even if shelly does flip scum, tomorrow is gonna be more of a headache

enough

why

why do you want more

what is this obsession with always having to try to maximise every possible bit of content from every single game day

is there like literally ANY evidence that actually helps town win