Open 797: Bus Service [Game Over]

shellyc · Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:35 pm

In post 1549, MiniVirgo wrote:Scum needs 3 to win btw

I think its actually auto-win if cop outs

MiniVirgo · Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:38 pm

In post 1550, shellyc wrote:
In post 1549, MiniVirgo wrote:Scum needs 3 to win btw
I think its actually auto-win if cop outs

What benefit does it have if Cop outs, them dying?

MiniVirgo · Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:38 pm

Also Cop can counterclaim now, a 1 for 1 is easy

shellyc · Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:38 pm

In post 1551, MiniVirgo wrote:
In post 1550, shellyc wrote:
In post 1549, MiniVirgo wrote:Scum needs 3 to win btw
I think its actually auto-win if cop outs
What benefit does it have if Cop outs, them dying?

giving clears??? there's scum BD but that can be inferred with the knowledge of what MWNN did each night

MiniVirgo · Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:39 pm

Clears aren't full clears

- JV

shellyc · Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:40 pm

In post 1554, MiniVirgo wrote:Clears aren't full clears

- JV

righty right

then cop should only out if they get guilts I guess

MiniVirgo · Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:41 pm

Cop claiming isn't necessary until tomorrow maybe and the following day definitely. Today is a waste, especially if I just hammered here.

- JV

shellyc · Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:42 pm

In post 1556, MiniVirgo wrote:Cop claiming isn't necessary until tomorrow maybe and the following day definitely. Today is a waste, especially if I just hammered here.

We might not have a tomorrow (:

MiniVirgo · Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:43 pm

In post 1557, shellyc wrote:
In post 1556, MiniVirgo wrote:Cop claiming isn't necessary until tomorrow maybe and the following day definitely. Today is a waste, especially if I just hammered here.
We might not have a tomorrow (:

Exactly, also if I am right on who the Cop is I wonder if anyone else saw it too.

- JV

ManWithNoName · Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:07 am

If that was hammer. This flips town, it's probably a Froppy into MiniVirgo elims that win the game

ManWithNoName · Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:08 am

Also if it flips town I'm not going to be protecting myself tonight.

MiniVirgo · Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:32 am

In post 1559, ManWithNoName wrote:If that was hammer. This flips town, it's probably a Froppy into MiniVirgo elims that win the game

What do you mean by this

shellyc · Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 1:50 am

In post 1559, ManWithNoName wrote:If that was hammer. This flips town, it's probably a Froppy into MiniVirgo elims that win the game

MWNN: Votes Swizzle
also MWNN: Swizzle's flipping town

Nandor the Relentless · Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:26 am

It would be pretty insane if we actually PoEd all 3 scum on day 2.

Realistically, I think it's Swizzle > Froppy

Almo I've largely thought was town because town!Almo jokes around and is more relaxed/unfiltered, while scum!Almo notably fakes stuff and soemtimes AtEs.

MiniVirgo and shelly are towners.

shellyc · Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:31 am

In post 1563, Nandor the Relentless wrote:It would be pretty insane if we actually PoEd all 3 scum on day 2.

Realistically, I think it's Swizzle > Froppy

Almo I've largely thought was town because town!Almo jokes around and is more relaxed/unfiltered, while scum!Almo notably fakes stuff and soemtimes AtEs.

MiniVirgo and shelly are towners.

why am I town

shellyc · Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 2:31 am

if this is game over I would like to say I will forever remember this game as my first ever town game getting into the townblock and living till endgame

Nandor the Relentless · Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:09 am

Nandor the Relentless · Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:10 am

If Johnny/Prof were your scum buddies, you would've been a lot more aggressive and harsh when bussing there.

ManWithNoName · Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:15 am

Lost a conjunction in there because I'm bad at phone posting.

If that was hammer and this flips town, I meant.

But I think we hit scum 100% of the time in Swizzle/Froppy/Minivirgo

ManWithNoName · Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:16 am

In post 1562, shellyc wrote:
In post 1559, ManWithNoName wrote:If that was hammer. This flips town, it's probably a Froppy into MiniVirgo elims that win the game
MWNN: Votes Swizzle
also MWNN: Swizzle's flipping town

Sorry about this confusion by the way, it was really a typo

shellyc · Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:16 am

In post 1566, Nandor the Relentless wrote:Meta is trash

might need to really change my mind on this.

shellyc · Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:17 am

In post 1568, ManWithNoName wrote:But I think we hit scum 100% of the time in Swizzle/Froppy/Minivirgo

I think MV is towning it up enough that im confident swizzy into froppy wins the game

Nandor the Relentless · Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 3:40 am

In post 1570, shellyc wrote:
In post 1566, Nandor the Relentless wrote:Meta is trash
might need to really change my mind on this.

Should've changed your mind when I used it in Stop the Bats

Almost50 · Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 4:55 am

In post 1529, shellyc wrote:
In post 1517, Swizzle Pop wrote:
In post 1515, ManWithNoName wrote:Why would shelly kill N_M?
NK analysis is bs to begin with and considering the kill was NM, no matter who is scum, its a weird kill. I'm gunna ISO NM rn to see what it was that made someone kill them.

-noraa the noraabear
no scum would kill N_M

it makes much more sense for scum BD to bus swizzle (last scum) to N_M (a likely cop check and unlikely bus drive from the town BD)

In post 1530, shellyc wrote:MV would 100% push for a N_M elim, and MV is probtown, giving scum no motive to kill N_M

no idea why scum would kill them at all. so im thinking the scum BD bussed N_M

I am confused. Swizzle is the last Scum alive (according to you) so THEY are the Scum BD. You say Scum would never shoot N_M but propose they switched themselves with him and shot at themselves to kill him still?? WHich is it? Did they shoot N_M

intentionally

or did they not?

Hold on.

Went back to MWNN's action, and it looks like you're proposing they switched themselves with N_M for the Cop check but shot at MWNN (who then switched himself with the "new" N_M slot), which begs the question: Why not switch themselves with MWNN directly?

@Mod: Are scum -in this setup- allowed to self-target with

the kill

Explanation: Let's say X is scum. They BD themselves with Y. Can they then submit a kill on X (resulting in the kill landing on Y) or not?

piisirrational · Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 5:02 am

In post 1573, Almost50 wrote:
In post 1529, shellyc wrote:
In post 1517, Swizzle Pop wrote:
In post 1515, ManWithNoName wrote:Why would shelly kill N_M?
NK analysis is bs to begin with and considering the kill was NM, no matter who is scum, its a weird kill. I'm gunna ISO NM rn to see what it was that made someone kill them.

-noraa the noraabear
no scum would kill N_M

it makes much more sense for scum BD to bus swizzle (last scum) to N_M (a likely cop check and unlikely bus drive from the town BD)

In post 1530, shellyc wrote:MV would 100% push for a N_M elim, and MV is probtown, giving scum no motive to kill N_M

no idea why scum would kill them at all. so im thinking the scum BD bussed N_M
I am confused. Swizzle is the last Scum alive (according to you) so THEY are the Scum BD. You say Scum would never shoot N_M but propose they switched themselves with him and shot at themselves to kill him still?? WHich is it? Did they shoot N_M
intentionally
or did they not?

Hold on.

Went back to MWNN's action, and it looks like you're proposing they switched themselves with N_M for the Cop check but shot at MWNN (who then switched himself with the "new" N_M slot), which begs the question: Why not switch themselves with MWNN directly?

@Mod: Are scum -in this setup- allowed to self-target with
the kill

Explanation: Let's say X is scum. They BD themselves with Y. Can they then submit a kill on X (resulting in the kill landing on Y) or not?

Yes, they can self-target.