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Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:54 am
by Kazyan
Enchant has vaguely-scummy words and townie actions. It's the actions that matter more. This is a matter of communication style.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:55 am
by Dwlee99
In post 1550, Kazyan wrote:Enchant has vaguely-scummy words and townie actions. It's the actions that matter more. This is a matter of communication style.
Can I get a TLDR? Haven't taken concentration pills yet today

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:57 am
by Enchant
In post 1549, Dwlee99 wrote:Oh there was also the cult game lol
I won this game.

No dirt on me.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:59 am
by Dwlee99
You winning that game was an indictment of cult games lol

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 1:59 am
by Kazyan
In post 1551, Dwlee99 wrote:
In post 1550, Kazyan wrote:Enchant has vaguely-scummy words and townie actions. It's the actions that matter more. This is a matter of communication style.
Can I get a TLDR? Haven't taken concentration pills yet today
Something from my notes pile:
viewtopic.php?p=12959312#p12959312
This is my #1019, where I stated that I'd claim at E-1. I'm at E-2, here. What happens thereafter is pretty quick--Dwlee and Nathan unvote, and then Enchant publicly goes to bed. Enchant was around shortly before my E-1 promise and shortly thereafter, so it's reasonable to think the Enchant saw this and decided not to pile that E-1 VOTE: ote onto the wagon. This is important, because scum have a serious incentive to get me to claim, but town doesn't want that on Day 1. Enchant looks town, here.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:01 am
by Dwlee99
Okay sure that makes sense I think

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:03 am
by Enchant
In post 1553, Dwlee99 wrote:You winning that game was an indictment of cult games lol
I believe in idea, where you can't blame one particular player. Team game and such.

Cult Leader simple hided in everyone townreads, which i called out right on day 1, because it's expected from CL to avoid votes at all costs. I revealed so i can't be called out for being CL and murdered, which helped a bit (even if you don't think so). Otherwise there would be idea where i am simple CL who converted Rolestopper and changed roles with him and would be mistakenly voted after.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:04 am
by Nathann
I went to check that post out, and me/Dwlee deflated that wagon before Enchant got a chance to post, they never had the opportunity to force the wagon onto Y-1.

@Enchant, what'd your reads looking like?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:16 am
by Enchant
Idk why mafia even need to push for claims and why me not pushing clears me. It's expected there's no dangerous PR in 2-Maf game, so why bother?

Nathann wrote:I went to check that post out, and me/Dwlee deflated that wagon before Enchant got a chance to post, they never had the opportunity to force the wagon onto Y-1.

@Enchant, what'd your reads looking like?
You stunned me with this.
I can't answer.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:24 am
by Enchant
Before you yell at me for no scumreading, well yeah. While i have some ideas, i feel i am wrongly wrong and can't answer for sure.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:27 am
by Nathann
I would appreciate ideas. I don't care if they're wrong, I need something to show your thought process.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 2:38 am
by Enchant
Well if that. I think sometimes destiny needs insane push.

More likely that not, mafia doing well and sit in everyone townreads, atleast one of them.

Probably idea "murder towniest person" looks horrible, but i don't think being top townread is that hard as mafia.

Who exactly is different question, which i thinking right now.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:07 am
by DrippingGoofball
Kazyan is town.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:10 am
by DrippingGoofball
GMo's gambit doesn't work for me because he didn't get NK'd.

Maybe there is a scum rolecop who knew GMo was lying? Long shot.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:12 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 1424, Nathann wrote:"not believing GranpaMo's claim, not voting him, but keeping the door open towards voting him"
That's exactly what I did because GMo's so-called crumb was fake AF.

And it turns out that it was indeed fake.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:14 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 1426, Nathann wrote:
In post 1421, GrandpaMo wrote:Then why is Dwlee backup watcher?
This mod is notorious for putting in red herrings that do nothing and serve no purpose. I'm not clearing anyone for claiming non-confirmable things. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a Mafia Backup Watcher with no Watchers in the game. (I don't think Dwlee is Scum, but as illustration.)
If Isis is a reviewer that doubles the chances.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:28 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 1449, Andresvmb wrote:We’re not executing DGB.
This is also town, not scum would interfere a Y-2 wagon.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:29 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 1459, Andresvmb wrote:I’m going to take a guess and say that the Scum are all in {Kazyan, Nathann, DW}.
Kazyan is really solvey today, though.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:31 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 1477, Andresvmb wrote:And do you think Town softs a PR there, avoids execution, and then doesn’t get NK’ed but Kyouko [VT] does? What does that tell you?
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:43 am
by DrippingGoofball
In post 1529, Andresvmb wrote:I do think GMo could easily be Scum actually. I might be letting the ridiculousness of the overall play affect my read of the slot when they’ve clearly done absurdly anti-Town things.
By POE this is increasingly possible.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:47 am
by DrippingGoofball
I didn't realise yesterday that my Titus vote was E-1.

GMo hammered though. Plus the suspicious watcher claim and he's still alive...

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:34 am
by Andresvmb
Look I’ll be honest - I think GrandpaMo needs to get executed only because they’re such a 50/50 in my head that I think them surviving much longer is just bad for Town. I obviously think they’re potential Scum, but I can’t be sure. I want to believe Nathann is Town but something is just bugging me there.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:35 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1534, geraintm wrote:Does GrandpaMo have form with this?
I only say that because of the earlier fake claim. I don’t have any experience with them.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:36 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1534, geraintm wrote:I think my town lean pile is Andres and GrandpaMo.
Talk to me about GMo because I’m really struggling there.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:40 am
by Andresvmb
In post 1537, Nathann wrote:@Andres, what's your thoughts on Enchant? I get the idea behind "DGB did this one Townie thing on Day 1", but (I think?) you're Town on Enchant, and I don't see why?
Frankly, it’s mostly gut. They were overly confrontational early against me when I started questioning their lack of involvement, which over time just made me question whether Scum reacts like that. I would have expected that they would be more conciliatory or offer out reads, but instead they made jokes about their number of posts.