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Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:15 am

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If Kop became an serial killer then having one scum be immortal (with the caveat that they can't vote until forfeiting the ability) would be quite helpful wouldn't it.
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Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:15 am

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In post 1548, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1547, Gamma Emerald wrote:my gut says it's LLD here and I kinda wanna have a perfect game if I can
Their claim that they actually can vote kinda shattered my belief in their role not being possible for scum to have.
Yeah, so why did I bother claiming it at this point instead of just riding the wave? Surely if my ability involves me being voteless and then able to vote, I have some kind of super power as scum, like a automatic mayor power or something.

so why claim it now?

I'm immortal to night kills, there's a play to auto confirm me or stop the night kill. We should never kill me today and always go with that plan.
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Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:16 am

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In post 1550, NorwegianboyEE wrote:If Kop became an serial killer then having one scum be immortal (with the caveat that they can't vote until forfeiting the ability) would be quite helpful wouldn't it.
So why would I have not forfeited it after the serial killer died to push against a kilga death?

Your logic isn't remotely tracking, and once again, you can confirm me as town tonight and then I'm immortal town.
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Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:17 am

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Like we have an actual guaranteed win locked up tonight if you follow the Yukari->Norwee->LLD targetting plan. No matter what scum's choice is.
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Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:19 am

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In post 1548, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1547, Gamma Emerald wrote:my gut says it's LLD here and I kinda wanna have a perfect game if I can
Their claim that they actually can vote kinda shattered my belief in their role not being possible for scum to have.
I don't agree. I can't substantiate why yet, but I will fight tooth and nail to allow this day phase to run as long as possible until I can explain it properly.
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Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:20 am

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In post 1554, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1548, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1547, Gamma Emerald wrote:my gut says it's LLD here and I kinda wanna have a perfect game if I can
Their claim that they actually can vote kinda shattered my belief in their role not being possible for scum to have.
I don't agree. I can't substantiate why yet, but I will fight tooth and nail to allow this day phase to run as long as possible until I can explain it properly.
You can't explain it now?
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Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:21 am

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Like LLD feels sooo scummy by dayplay, the mech is literally the only reason i haven't been pushing for their death all game.
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Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:23 am

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I think i'm at Sanae/LLD for my preferred votes today.

Would like for Sanae to show up and share their thoughts.
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Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:24 am

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on second thought there's a logical explanation for my concern
I still think we should wait to vote anyone out until I get a chance to actually figure that out though
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Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:25 am

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I think the only way Gamma is even possible to be scum to me is if he made things a double day just to get the town credit that from a mistake that was intended to be a pro town play. Seems very unlikely.
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Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:25 am

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In post 1558, Gamma Emerald wrote:on second thought there's a logical explanation for my concern
I still think we should wait to vote anyone out until I get a chance to actually figure that out though
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Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:26 am

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don't worry about it too hard. Bottom line is, don't vote anyone out until I say we're all clear to.
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Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:26 am

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Again, with only one scum left, a scum without a vote cannot win this game, literally cannot.

All you need to do is see that I keep refusing to activate my vote, use the ability chain I described above, and confirm me, and the game ends.

If I'm scum, you'll win. If I'm town, you'll win.

So let's kill Sanae and test me and then you can kill Gamma and then kill me.

It's really simple.
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Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:27 am

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Don't wait until 8 hours before deadline :)
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Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:27 am

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In post 1562, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:So let's kill Sanae and test me and then you can kill Gamma and then kill me.
Why would kill Gamma?
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Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:28 am

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If I can't disclose what I mean by 48 hours remaining I'll stop filibustering
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Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:29 am

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In post 1562, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Again, with only one scum left, a scum without a vote cannot win this game, literally cannot.

All you need to do is see that I keep refusing to activate my vote, use the ability chain I described above, and confirm me, and the game ends.

If I'm scum, you'll win. If I'm town, you'll win.

So let's kill Sanae and test me and then you can kill Gamma and then kill me.

It's really simple.
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Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:30 am

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In post 1564, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 1562, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:So let's kill Sanae and test me and then you can kill Gamma and then kill me.
Why would kill Gamma?
So consider the outcomes if you use the mechanics to clear me right?

we kill Sanae, if scum kills, I'm clear: Who do we kill next who isn't confirmed? Gamma, right?

we kill Sanae, scum no kills, I'm not clear, but no one died. We kill the next most suspicious person after me and try again. If they no kill again, kill me it's fine by that point we got 3 vote out kills and no scum controlled deaths and that should be a win too.
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Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:32 am

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I will hopefully be blindingly obvtown by the end of this dayphase
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Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:32 am

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In post 1566, Yukari Yakumo wrote:
In post 1562, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Again, with only one scum left, a scum without a vote cannot win this game, literally cannot.

All you need to do is see that I keep refusing to activate my vote, use the ability chain I described above, and confirm me, and the game ends.

If I'm scum, you'll win. If I'm town, you'll win.

So let's kill Sanae and test me and then you can kill Gamma and then kill me.

It's really simple.
What's your read on Sanae?
Reads don't matter when we have a mechanical win.

Yukari, Reg, Luke's slot are town.

Norwee basically town.

Leaves me Sanae Gamma.

Do the plan on me, kill Sanae today, do Gamma tomorrow no matter what the plan comes out as, kill me if the game still isn't over and then you'll know something is fucky since it'd be going still.
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Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:34 am

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There's literally no way for this plan to fail. None. Zero. The game is a mechanical win if you follow my plan, no one ability from any player can stop it.
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Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:34 am

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It is true that one more confirm and two skipped kills equals to town autowin.
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Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:34 am

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Not even a strongman could, if I understand, because it's an action Delay not a block. So it'd still be strongman, just.... the next night.

It's locked down. It's literally locked down.
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Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:35 am

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I don't like it when slots are confident in an mech win.
Makes me wonder if it's some kind of trick.
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Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:35 am

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I looked through LLD, Kilga, and Kake's posts and it really makes me wonder if LLD could've been scum setting up for Kilga as their partner to suggest that godfather exists.
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