Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:24 am
Well then you're incorrect.
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Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:26 am
That's fair, but I had my Nexus scumread... degrade a bit overnight.
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 9:30 am
This is wrong on every level.In post 1574, Venmar wrote:Scum are more likely to defend their buddy softly... in my opinion.. or just not defend at all. I mean I don't think people defend their buddies anymore on this site IMO, but I think people soft defend their teammates rather than hard-defend if anything. That being said, from your options, I think scum are more likely to WHITEKNIGHT a buddy than attack the detractors.In post 1566, xRECKONERx wrote:Amrun, he's saying chainsaw defense of Nexus is still a defense of Nexus. Which is fair.
But... Venmar, if you're going to defend your buddy, which way is more likely? Doing what she did with Amrun (blatantly white knighting) or doing what she did with Nexus (not directly defending him but instead attacking his detractors)?
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:03 am
Yeah it is. So why don't you feel as strongly about it?In post 1562, Venmar wrote:@Desperado - Nexus isn't the lynch today. I don't feel as strong about it as I did before, though it's still possible.
Brb officially reading Tierce.
@Amrun- This is defending Nexus, even though it's not directly.In post 1543, Amrun wrote:Tierce totally ignores him, and anything surrounding him, butvehemently attacks both Desperado and Venmar, Nexus' biggest detractors.This could EASILY be a humongous chainsaw defense.
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:04 am
ChainsawingIn post 1574, Venmar wrote:Scum are more likely to defend their buddy softly... in my opinion.. or just not defend at all. I mean I don't think people defend their buddies anymore on this site IMO, but I think people soft defend their teammates rather than hard-defend if anything. That being said, from your options, I think scum are more likely to WHITEKNIGHT a buddy than attack the detractors.In post 1566, xRECKONERx wrote:Amrun, he's saying chainsaw defense of Nexus is still a defense of Nexus. Which is fair.
But... Venmar, if you're going to defend your buddy, which way is more likely? Doing what she did with Amrun (blatantly white knighting) or doing what she did with Nexus (not directly defending him but instead attacking his detractors)?
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soft-defending.Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:17 am
Really?
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:17 am
Yes. Really.
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:19 am
Semantics.
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:25 am
No, not really, because even disregarding that, everything Venmar is saying is completely wrong.
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:33 am
I mean as much as I love spinning in circles, this is making me dizzy. Somebody wanna explain what the arguing over word semantics is achieving?
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:36 am
VENMAR IS WRONG ABOUT NEXUS AND BASING DECISIONS ON THE OPPOSITE OF REALITY AND I WANNA LYNCH NEXUS WAHHH
there's your summary
there's your summary
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:37 am
Beats me. Venmar's scum read on Nexus somehow got weaker after Tierce attacked the two people bringing suspicion on to him and his explanation doesn't make any sense.
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:37 am
Beats me. Venmar's scum read on Nexus somehow got weaker after Tierce attacked the two people bringing suspicion on to him and his explanation doesn't make any sense.
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:37 am
Beats me. Venmar's scum read on Nexus somehow got weaker after Tierce attacked the two people bringing suspicion on to him and his explanation doesn't make any sense.
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:40 am
Wow.
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:41 am
Yeah my laptop's left-click is broken...
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:44 am
/sheepIn post 1585, Amrun wrote:VENMAR IS WRONG ABOUT NEXUS AND BASING DECISIONS ON THE OPPOSITE OF REALITY AND I WANNA LYNCH NEXUS WAHHH
there's your summary
VOTE: Nexus because amrun and also the lulziest backpedal on me in history.
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:49 am
For the love of god don't lynch Nexus until I get a chance to reread him & Tierce. I might or might not get round to it tonight (I'm tired from travelling and my head's in other games) but just sayin', don't let anyone lulzily hammer until I've reevaluated him.
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:50 am
he has like 3 votes on him...?
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:51 am
Game feels smaller than it used to and wagon feels like it's moving quickly. I might be overreacting but I have kind of invested a lot of ego points into my position on Nexus...
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:55 am
I am in no way advocating a quick lynch.
My scumreads have been shit so far this game, minus Tierce, who I didn't pursue because I let myself talk myself out of trusting myself (why did i do this), so it's time to re-evaluate, and perhaps Nexus was my blind spot.
My scumreads have been shit so far this game, minus Tierce, who I didn't pursue because I let myself talk myself out of trusting myself (why did i do this), so it's time to re-evaluate, and perhaps Nexus was my blind spot.
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 10:57 am
Starting from page one.
Has anyone played enough with Tamuz and Tierce to know if this may be alignment-indicative? I want to say it's less likely to come from a scumbuddy on a non-contextual level but do they know each other well?
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:51 am
IM SORRY
Omfg I was under the impression chainsawing the fuck out of detractors is considered defending or hard-defending the victim, I didn't consider it could be soft-defending since chainsaw isn't usually done discreetly, but I see the merit now that I think about it.
I'm sorry, that's my bad, changes quite a bit.
This means that Tierce's activity upon on this revelation actually does mean that Nexus is probably scum, which also ties in Amrun as scum with him since Amrun ALSO soft defended Nexus in the past and is now (possibly) bussing him by using Tierce's activity as ammunition and then eating the towncred for it for all of the mislynches she has done.
There's just one thing that is stopping me from voting Nexus.. ugh.
Omfg I was under the impression chainsawing the fuck out of detractors is considered defending or hard-defending the victim, I didn't consider it could be soft-defending since chainsaw isn't usually done discreetly, but I see the merit now that I think about it.
I'm sorry, that's my bad, changes quite a bit.
This means that Tierce's activity upon on this revelation actually does mean that Nexus is probably scum, which also ties in Amrun as scum with him since Amrun ALSO soft defended Nexus in the past and is now (possibly) bussing him by using Tierce's activity as ammunition and then eating the towncred for it for all of the mislynches she has done.
There's just one thing that is stopping me from voting Nexus.. ugh.
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:56 am
ps
I never soft defended Nexus. Calling someone town, DIRECTLY, saying, "Nexus is town," is what is called a HARD DEFENSE.
And also I am objectively reallllllly town, imo, both for some good reasons (interactions with Tierce), and for bad reasons (slamming through two mislynches in a row in that manner). But really, there is no way Tierce and I are scum together, just NO WAY
I never soft defended Nexus. Calling someone town, DIRECTLY, saying, "Nexus is town," is what is called a HARD DEFENSE.
And also I am objectively reallllllly town, imo, both for some good reasons (interactions with Tierce), and for bad reasons (slamming through two mislynches in a row in that manner). But really, there is no way Tierce and I are scum together, just NO WAY
Posted: Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:18 pm
True, you called him town, but I already explained in detail before, right below why I think it was soft defending:
In post 668, Venmar wrote:I'm currently thinking Amrun and Nexus could be scumbuddies, Nexus for obvious reasons, and Amrun for what I think is soft defending Nexus withoutactuallydefending him. Examples are #546 where she says she's cogitating about it and that it's not on her priority list ( soft defence / delay ), the ending of #605 where she brushes it off and says it's not relevant to the game state right now ( more soft defence ), and the ending of #635 where she just acts unconvinced, vaguely calls Nexus town and pats it down by complimenting me ( little bit of soft defence ).
- It really just boils down to small comments that try to avoid actually defending Nexus,but still trying to prevent his wagon from catching fire.Such relationship I see often between scumbuddies. The difference between Amruns defence of Nexus and CDB's defence of Nexus, for example, is that Amrun does it very softly and almost indirectly, while CDB just blatantly out right defends Nexus, which I think is a town motivated response.